Invite Gays to give Testimony Entry for December 08, 2006
The most unusal act for those professing to be born again believers in the Lord Jesus Christ is that of refusing to allow someone to give their testimony that claims to be Christian just because they are gay.
It would seem the best way at getting to truth is to see it first hand in operation. Making all sorts of claims gay is sin and using certain verses to try to prove it is still misses the point. Anyone can argue Scripture. We se so many denominatins showing this. We hardly can agree on the fundalmental basic of our faith between denomination so why are we fighting so hard to prove some sort of poiint about some issue.
Why not inside test the spirits. Let see if gay is sin by lives lived. We never miss to profess Jesus came into our lives and changed it and that we have many things since we accepted Jesus demonstrating Jesus changes lives. Long lists of standard all incompassing changes and directions demonstrating something indeed happened.
We happily testify often of answered prayer and miracles happeing in our lives helping every fascet of our lives and with our family. Churches the world over often set time asside just for people to tell what Jesus is doing in their lives.
Books are written that we love to read about certain kinds of breaking out of bondages familiar to all whether spiritually or physically. Deliverance from real prisons. Physical healing. The list can go on and on.
Other testimonies included in Pentecostal circles get deep into prophecy and word of knowledge where believers believe God speaks through people about specifics of specific people. Tipical in a Pentecostal church the pastor or minister will call a specific person up to give word from God and we are led to believe God spoke specifically to that minister to call up a specific person by name or by pointing and saying you thats right you come up here.
As Christian watch the years go by their testimoies grow daily with more of the above or simply continued comfort of the presence of Jesus in their lives in a real way helping with ordinary things.
We almost never question a testimony, though we may doubt some or revert to atheists view and try explaining some of them are really due to normal every day occurances that happen to saved and unseaved alike. But over all we accept those around us during testimony time as having real experiencing with the Lord Jesus Christ.
So why then have no problem with your testimony time at your church do you feel you need to ban certain people from speaking. Or you set an atmosphere that a gayperson would feel like if he stated God is with him and this is whathe has done in my life that you would attack them with words that would send them running in terror. So gays in your church must edit their testimonies to fit the status quo modifying events to sound inline with tipical straight reteric.
You see if gays were given opportunity to testify and give account of their faith in Christ Jesus even those gays not have not gotten much more info concerning gays than tipical straight Christians that think gay is sin. It is the same conditioning you grew up with and the churches they go to is the same ones you go to. Though many gays actually believe like you because up this universal upbringing they have made or are making peace with God in their ways and living the best they can as a gay person having a life as any str8 has in the seeking of love with someone.
These can testify of the good things God has done in their lives in their walk with God through Jesus Christ. They will tell you very similar testimonies you have in your wolk with Christ.
Now many gays not satisfied with the constant condemnation and desire to seek deeper into Christ for truth on this issue and discovered gay is not sin often know the Bible better than most and know many facts in history and much more. Gays get that extra priviledge because str8s often have no idea they are gay and so treat them like str8 buddies and condfide eer so much in them. Gays are surrounded by str8s from all sides and so there is nothing you do or say that is not known to them. They are experts on str8 life because they rub shoulder with str8s every day of their lives.
With so much condemnation of gays has the opposite effect as desired by those saying gay is sin would desire to have as an outcome. Gays basically have little choice but to study. Their lives depends on it. Contrary to what those tinking gay is sin think gays do not take Jesus lightly, Jesus is the Son of God and the truth the way and the life and there is no other way to eternal life all other ways are lies. So gays do not justify as is commonly believed, but they have to go for broke. Gay people are not bent on evil or mock truth. They are like you. Would you seek info and when found thatinfo condemns you and the info in absolutely truth would you then cover it up and invent explainations so that you make that truth disappear?
A Christian into astrology reads astrologers will burn would stop looking to astrology for guidense. I was amazed a very long time ago at what seemed impossible in a scientific mind that stars can pretty tell all about you and your fate. But yet astoundenly astrology works as does so many ooccultic beliefs. But being a new Christian and seeiing the Bible so huge I asked God to show me. I just simply can not accept somebody telling me something like it is sin. I know too much. It works there is something behind these things that ultimately must be scienticficly proven. However, God answered my prayers and sure enough astrologers will burn and no matter how much you investigate astrolers it comes out astrologer. Hebrew Greek ancient times constistant non changing not realy evolving to be differnt just still astrology and there fore God says is sin. In this kind of case yes beyond doubt do not go to these people.
Gays use the Bible and get into the ancient language. Plenty of ancient language experts around and so info is available. There is a wealth of info out there at your fingertips today, not that long ago it was harder to get but available. Now you have to look at many sources weeding out soources that do not rely on crewntialed sources.
So there are lot of gays that knows their stuff and so you as a Christian thinking gay is sin needs to consider when you tell someone gay is sin they just may know a few tings about the facts surounding thise issue. It is you that is most likely not to know much about what the bible is saying on issues you just don't look into other than sources supporting your views.
All Christians gays have testimonies. Many gays have it bad because of people saying gay is sin and it is directly in front of their faces daily. Like a Muslim becoming a Christian in some area could result in their family killing them or at least terrorizing them. These testimonies are common. So is being a Christian sin because of the pain a ex-muslim feels after becoming a Christian and they do not have resorces or support groups to go to just family and friends condemning them. NO it is the persecutors that briing the pain as with gays that are in dire straights because those around them hate gays and they have no way to get help. It is not gay is sin that makes them in pain, it is people like you that believe gay is sin and refuse to answer simple questions about simple facts.
Gays that accept themselves and have put on the whole armor of faith and can answer your accusations with fact have a full fledge testimony that is rich with everything you with your faith in Christ have. They can tell you of tough times and good times and cover what you cover. They have the same miracles and answered prayers you have. Thay have family and every thing. Your job would be to figure out how can this be. You belief is gay is sin so how can God do this to someone you think is so blantantly live in unrepented sins.
So far you do not see testimonies so in chat or in passing you claim the gay person just can't have these things happeing. Your only recourse is to say they are justifying their sions. It is like you close your ears and call them liars. you think satan has to have healed them or answered their prayers. If gays speak in tongues you claim it is tongues of satan.
So come now those gays that not only know the Bible but are called to speak out and actually have authority in Christ Jesus. These are prepared to go beyond simple testimony of their walk in Jesus Christ but to wheeled to sword of the Spirit. Beware should such a one come to your church. They have nothing in them about any sort of secular gay rights movement. It is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit that matters to them.
These that come will offer you a challenge to redem your claims that gay is sin by operating in your faith. You may believe you can not evoke God to move that he will move in his own time, but these gay Christians believe God's time has come and know he will move.
The best program would be to offer to gay Christians to come give testimony unconditionally at your church. I ppersonally believe you are to late. Now is the time for unpresidented action. Secular gays had to fight long and hard for decades while gay Christains slep. We love the saying becareful enemy of the USA don't wake the sleeping giant.
Gays have been of in the gay Christian closet. Plenty of gay churches quite safe for closeted gay Christians and policies of not making waves. At times some waves have been made and some pick away at the homophobic monster. But generally gay Christians as a whole have been a sleeping giant. God during this time that these gays were sleeping (just doing as you playing church) were being trained by God. A sleeping army of believers not yet understanding their call. Soon this army will be woken and sent on the mission they were trained for which is restoring fallen away Christians. Soon a day will hit us nearly over night where huge numbers of Christians will fall away turning their backs on Jesus. God is not about to let these just perish altogether and so has been many decades preparing an army in secret.
First will come a few that get a foot in the door that heretofore has been sealed shut for them. Maybe just one pastor will slip up and let one of these in. These have the authority to operate in God in a manner not seen even in the Aposles day. They will not doo anything as it were spectacular, but will offer a challenge.
It is simple enough if Chrisians believe gay is sin whether demon possesion or what ever and they thnk the Bible condemns gays, then they (their whole congregation with pastor leading) do all they know. Preach, cast out demon. call on God, call on Jesus, operate all they know how in the Holy Spirit, and lay on hands and what ever they believe in their faith. Seems simple enough. What is so hard to believe is why haven't Christians believing gays is sin brought to the forefront gay Christians that are deeply rooted in Christ Jesus and test them, test their testimonies, test their walk. The let them speak, let them ask you questions, let them call on God let them call on Jesus and operate in the Holy Spirit.
What is the difficulty, if it is a demon or satan involvement victory is yours hands down. Demons tremble for your faith would far exceed what any demon even the worst of demons. Do you really believe some demons can't be moved by Christians. Jesus tells you how. What are you going to do if instead it is obvious that God is with that gay person?
My challenge is on going I am willing to submit my self to any actual pastor and congregation that is of the acceptable Christian churches. It is a 2 way street once your church is done with me however much time you need then I get the same opportunity to do likewise to you.
Once again I am amazed at how many Christians have come to me (over 700,000) yet none bold enough in their faith to act in their faith and do real Christian real God real Jesus real Holy Spirit actions. We believe but we are ashamed or fearful or what. Headquarter will fire the pastor if he lets a gay person speak even if the church had their way with me trying to get God to move and or trying to prove gay sin.
So I ask open up your church ask your pastor) to let gays give testimonies) or invite a gay Christian stong in the Lord to speak. As for me I also have much information that may save your faith in the coming days. Soon such shaking that has never been seen before will come and you will be here and it will terrorize you. Deceptions are coming many are here. Counterfeit bible are in widespread use today. Were taught we
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