Saturday, December 15, 2007

Want to Volunteer?

The Stables Ministries
"Home of Gays For Jesus weekly TV programs"
Gay is not sin and Jesus is not asking the gay person to change and be straight.

I am looking fro a few good people. Hopefully in the Seattle area, but not required. These are 100% volunteer positions. I  am not sure exactly the actual functions that will be needed as this is a new kind of ministry and not a whole lot of role models to use as guidelines though I think there are standards that will be similar as large rallies follows built in formatting that is universal.

Preferable gay, but not required. Pentecostal a must.

1. Webpage expert that can manage all Stables Ministries sites and create high ranking and increase hits.

2. Video editor that can shoot, insert clips, special effects, and text documentation/verses of my topics.

3. Email person that can generate email lists and send email to key targeted persons and groups.

4. Fund raiser that can generate funding for projects, rallies, travel, operational costs, possible salaries, and other.

5. Event creator that can generate leads, make accommodations, negotiate conditions, set up rallies, and more.

6. Pentecostal gay song writers and singers with a strong call from God to minister their talents to the world.

Above does not have to be separate people. My goal is about 9 -12 people with 6 person team to travel and minister in person. The rest operate the ministry from a home base.

For sometime this has been my vision and dream with many people prophesying this will come to pass. Recently this seems a real possibility. At least 1000 pastors from several countries have invited me to come preach to crowds they can gather in a short time space. many of these pastors I have been in contact for a few years and they tell me they can gather as many as 10,000 people to hear me.

What God is showing is many will be physically healed and many will accept Jesus and be baptized in the Holy Spirit. Also the Church will be shakened for their false doctrines and customs and conditionings. A great revival is coming so come join me in this exciting ministry.

Those that cannot help in person or tanglebly from home with their talents or expertise can help with love gifts large or small even $1.00 is not too small.

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Thanks so much for helping and supporting The Stables Ministries.

Thursday, December 13, 2007

Pentecostal and Gay


I accepted Jesus January 27Th, 1974 at 9:45 pm. Three years before I met my lover who was Assemblies of God from the Navajo Indian reservation. He had shown no signs he was Christians during these 3 years. When I accepted Jesus he suggested the Assemblies of God after we had many interesting reservation style camp meetings where the Holy Spirit moved dramatically to say the least. We went to the reservation about five times a year. So he suggested the Assemblies of God back in the city we live in at that time. He joined the choir and we never missed a service for over 12 years including workshops and special guest speaking often lasting a couple weeks many nights in a row. It was not long before I found out abut this tongues thing and I already knew I was hooked on Jesus as strongly as I was an atheist before accepting him. I believed beyond doubt there was no God so that was quite a change for me to start believing. So one day I asked Jesus to give me the tongues thing. I was not just casually mentioning I would like it. I sought it diligently for hours. Long story short I got it. This was about 4 months after I accepted Jesus. (This is far more complex than this short story implies and stretches 3 years before I actually accepted Jesus)

Almost from day one of my born again experience pastors at about any church I would go to not knowing me from Adam would call me up to the alter purposely saying God had a word for me. Now a days I say about 200 pastors did this over 10 years. I may be way under the actual number.

From the start God gave me Ezekiel chapter 34. This would nearly every time I open any Bible would open. I finally decided it was because it opened so many times in on book that it was physically shaped to open there. But that did not account for the new Bible it once was nor any Bible I pick up of any other random opening of the Word of God. So amongst several other conditions this chapter became my ministries' theme.

During the first 10 years I had 3 major physical healings, I go into this in other places on my website. Answered prayer was common and the more detailed I asked the more precise it was answered.

I had a job (for a period of five years) that required me taking different groups of about 20 people each group of a different Christian faith to Sunday school and church service of their churches. So in this 5 year period I got a lot of quality time in many different non-Pentecostal churches. I even went to a few Catholic churches during this time.

With that above experience I found that being Pentecostal it made no difference where you go to worship and the Bible was read and preached and no matter how otherwise "dead" that church was I was having "camp meeting" (camp meeting is old term for revival filled with the Holy Spirit miracles and general neat worshipping and praising the Lord). It was strange to look around and see people sitting like they could not even hear the wonderful things of the Lord being taught by their pastor and that pastor was appearing to mouth the words but no life from him in them or like he heard himself preaching, but there I was forcing myself to keep my hands down and trying to hide tears of joys and being choked up from the wonderful message.

Now of course these five years going to many denominations did not take away from my regular attendance in my church (Assemblies of God). Usually taking people to church was a morning thing so evening and Wednesdays and other days were not interfered with by my job.

Every church I went to every pastors somehow got attracted to me to talk and the conversation would be like he saw God and Jesus in me and felt very comfortable talking to me saying these things. Often pastors would even confide to me their problems in ministering and the trouble they have with staff and assistant pastors and boards trying to fight him. I thought it interesting though hey wonderful someone thinks God is with you and feels like they can talk to you about serious things they are going through even it is is just to have a ear to listen to them. BUT here I am GAY living with my LOVER. Everyone, I never met any Christian for the first 15 years of my acceptance of Jesus as my Lord and Savior that did not say they see Jesus in me or see God is with me.

Well I knew this was not missed placed feelings or thoughts because I truly Love Jesus and was 100% committed to him in every way. I was not a fake or a hypocrite I was the Christian they thought I was (except for one small thing, they did not know I was gay in those years).

Funny though the moment Christians (pastors) found out or knew I was gay all they could see is the word gay and nothing more. I am exactly the same person doing the same things believing the same way, but the word gay made them not look past that word. Good part is because people can decide how they will think based on a word does not change the baptism in the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit did not leave me when I went on TV as an openly gay Pentecostal TV preacher every week. All that changed was if I go to church now many recognized me as being on TV. It is split, some condemn other still think good of me and the word gay does not make them do anything except apologize for those Christians that I call homophobes.

There is an amazing thing that most Christians miss and that is the operation of the member of the Body of Christ they casted out and said I have no need of you. This happened about 700 years ago as the Church cast out the gay member of the body of Christ. Since that time the function gays have in the Church, like any part of your body has a function to help make your whole body work well, was stopped. The Church is now at a very broken state and lost what this thing called love is in the Bible. They also misunderstand what hate is. But never the less gays never left the church and though restricted in what they can do still do many things of their place in the church. Soon though gays will be fully functioning in the Church. Another topic.

The Church generally bans gays once they learn they are gay. Soon this feature the Church enjoys will come to an end.

So, Pentecostal and gay what is it? Well first it is simple if you are a str8 Pentecostal you got most of it down and so really not a lot of explaining to do. It is Just gays also gt baptised in the Holy Spirit and there is nothing you can do about it. It is just a fact. Facts can not be washed under the table.

I can speak for myself and that is at any moment I can speak in tongues. There are associated gifts as part of tongues. And other main gift that at least one or more is often part of the package you get accordingly as God divides as he will. You can seek additional gifts in the Spirit.

Something comes with the territory of being Pentecostal. It presents a problem that confuses many in many ways. Pentecostalism is sort of a Pandora's box as is said. Meaning you NOW are deal with spirit and flesh together. You are not in your spirit body yet so here you are in your flesh and NOW in touch with your spirit and spirits. Most of the time is it not a problem and life goes on and little interference is noticed or just not recognized at all.

Your spirit is not JESUS,GOD, OR HOLT SPIRIT. There are also satan, demons and unknowns. There are fears no excuse to say FEARS are there makes FEARS not there. Surround yourself with people of like minds and you will have it the easiest but grow the slowest in Christ Jesus.

Your spirit is YOU and so you cannot say GOD said if it was YOUR spirit saying it. YOUR spirit does want to praise God and Jesus and WORSHIP him. You cannot tell your spirit what to do or not do. YOU are allowing willing yourself into operation in the HOLY SPIRIT. This is the danger that you do not recognized or discern the spirits. It should be easy if it is God your got the Bible to confirm it. If you hear God tell you an airplane will come down, then in the Bible you can look up some verse and see if God tells people this about a coming disaster. No planes then so you got to make sure you are on the right track in the Bible.

If you say in the spirit gay is sin, then you have to go to the Bible and see if God said that and you cannot find that though to you it is one of the 14 verses that are used for this and for you your fleshly mind is satisfied so for you God said it. This does not make it God is saying it. Part of being baptized in the Holy Spirit is the difficulty to overcome your doctrines and custom and traditions. Your flesh interfere with your spirit a lot and your spirit is not God's spirit so your spirit is not all truth just loses truth.

Then demons and satan are spirits they pretend to be in sheep's clothing. Test the spirits means so just that. If it is of God it is of the Bible. If its demon or satan you can cast it away and or tel it it is not of God or the Bible. Demons can be easier than your flesh and your own spirit because they are liars and counterfeiters and you should be sort of tuned in to figuring out it ain;t you or God. Does not mean they will go away, they got rules and some of them say they don't got to go away and some says they do got to go away. Know the rules so when they stay around you understand the rule for it and it is not against some other rule. maybe i will go into more detail sometime on this side of this issue.

Then we have the unknown. If it were just demons/satan (fallen angels or satan oriented what ever you want to call them) and/or just God (and his angels or host or what ever is God's crew) it would be less complicated. Be it man made satan made deceptions or real phenomena there is an unknown factor. "Aliens" what ever just that there is this unknown neither God not satan oriented as to be in their category. This unknown even if it is God's or satan's camp it is out in left field and so it is a source that is effecting Pentecostalism.

Type in effect is other religions, occultism, mysticism etc. in short I say operate illegally using the Holy Spirit as power source for manifestations that make their process work. I think there could be a physical biological mechanism in out bodies that allows us to FEEL God. Space shuttle launch drag racing ball games are things that it is fury can push the GOD button in us making us have a flooding of the love of GOD and tears flood like rain. Hey it ain't God. But it sure can FEEL like it and this can interfere with Pentecostals that are not aware of environment's effect on them. I go into this in other areas of my sites.

Again most of the time Christians just are not going to run into much more than a church service praise session with singing in the spirit and maybe a tongues and interpretation with a tossed in healing. It is those that want more and seek a deeper relationship with Jesus and desire to know him, part of know Jesus is knowing the Holy Spirit as a person. He won't talk about himself , but Will show himself to those the seek him diligently.

Benefits of Pentecostal is a 24/7/365 feeling Jesus presence as though he is there with you all the time. God's word always fresh and alive. You can make intercessory prayer for others, this helps when it seems like yo just can't pray for someone or find words. The Holy Spirit will pray for you. Pentecostal means many more opportunities to see miracles in a direct fashion not a coincidence of events so you call them a miracle, but things that flat out directly zap pola right in front of you happens.

Jesus seems closer in troubled times or when your are rejected or falling. Visions can be frequent, For me I cannot be asleep more than a second and I am in a vision. Be nice to remember the details better, but wow absolutely amazing dream visions (though for our day often they concern the coming tribulation and the time just before it and I can't really say much good about those events.

Abuse and strictness and hypocrisy often is enhanced by being Pentecostal as the false sense that you must be good to be so close to Jesus or the power you have in operating in the Holy Spirit makes you think yourself better than others or your greed power hungry nature is puffed up. Nothing is special about you that helped you be Pentecostal. So often Pentecostal are even the worse yet it is no wonder as a guess God did not have Assemblies of God type churches back in the 5th to 15th centuries. We read so much bad at the hands of the non-Pentecostals what would it be like if Pentecostal were the ruling class Christians? Never thought about it that way. It is human nature to sin and getting saved does not erase your nature to sin and disobey God. You may think you a re not disobeying, but others know it a mile away just like you know their a mile away.

We as they say are not perfect just forgiven. Let just try to live the best we can each day (best not being translated to find the fattest sin list book to obey).

Gays are people many accept Jesus and many are Pentecostal. Pentecostals often are reserved to last. Today str8 Pentecostals created international Christian TV and are often behind most huge Christian rallies and out making noise for God not all is bad but false doctrine traditions and conditionings are at play and so many can't break from those things. Catholic and protestant gays begin later 1960s Pentecostal gays had to stay their Pentecostal closet. Pentecostal gay are NOW becoming more heard as many are struggling to stand up and make a difference and the time must be right as God is more allowing this to happen meaning God is an active participators in urging Pentecostal gays to go above and beyond the norm to start the break though to public ministry.

Tuesday, December 11, 2007

The 14 Verses in the False anti-gay Doctrine

"The Stables Ministries"
"Gay is not sin"
The Anti-gay Church's700 year old Doctrine in a nut shell!

1. Gen 2:22 Steve is was in the DNA (God did not make Adam and Steve)

RIB 6763 tsela` (tsay-law');
or (feminine) tsal` ah (tsal-aw'); from 6760; a rib (as curved), literally (of the body) or figuratively (of a door, i.e. leaf); hence, a side, literally (of a person) or figuratively (of an object or the sky, i.e. quarter); architecturally, a (especially floor or ceiling) timber or plank (single or collective, i.e. a flooring):
KJV-- beam, board, chamber, corner, leaf, plank, rib, side (chamber).
6760 tsala` (tsaw-lah');
a primitive root: probably to curve; used only as denominative from 6763, to limp (as if one-sided):
KJV-- halt.

Key above is the word chamber is used at least 11 times in the Bible with the same word RIB in Gen 2:22. The is a Hebrew word used in the Bible that if used in Gen 2:22 absolutely word mean RIB "bone". A long time TBN host Hebrew scholar said his intensive research found the best modern English word to be "CELL from that RIB" This is not that easy to find so don't expect to blink and you will find this. It is up to you how deep you want to study Hebrew meanings to words. If this verse is chosen to condemn gays a great deal of expaining is needed because in the GARDEN the world was very different and so many things come into question.

2. Gen 19:4-5 gang rape, murder, victims would have been angels

This verse tells you a lot of people are invollved and that it is not just men. Wickedly means death to the angels was the intention. No one can survice this word. Later Lots daughters raped their dad.

3. Judg 19:22 rarely used gang rape, murder, but victim was opposite sex.

Similar story as Gen. but they did accept the offer of a daughter and did rape her to death.

4. Deut 23:17 don't be a male temple prostitute
5. IKing 14:24 rarely used male temple prostitute
6. IKing 15:12 rarely used male temple prostitute
7. IKing 22:46 rarely used male temple prostitute
8. II Ki 23:7 rarely used male temple prostitute

6945 qadesh (kaw-dashe'); from 6942; a (quasi) sacred person, i.e. (technically) a (male) devotee (by prostitution) to licentious idolatry: KJV-- sodomite, unclean.6942 qadash (kaw-dash'); a primitive root; to be (causatively, make, pronounce or observe as) clean (ceremonially or morally): KJV-- appoint, bid, consecrate, dedicate, defile, hallow, (be, keep) holy (-er, place), keep, prepare, proclaim, purify, sanctify (-ied oneself,), X wholly. 6943 Qedesh (keh'-desh); from 6942; a sanctum; Kedesh, the name of four places in Palestine: KJV-- Kedesh.This is the key word in 7 of the 14 verses people use to say gay is sin.

Tons of history on fertility temples This should not be in the anti-gay doctrine because of the obvious and well document actual word meaning and actual temples frequently by Hebrew men.

9. Lev 18:22 acts done in worshipping other gods, not comparing loving, caring , long term relationships, woman is a likely adulteress
10. Lev 20:13 acts done in worshipping other gods, not comparing loving, caring , long term relationships, woman is a likely adulteress

"v'es zaachaar lo tishkav mishk'vey ishaw to'eyvaa hi."

"And man not you-lie-with lyings with-woman detestable that."
"And man not you-lie-with ones-who-lie with-woman detestable that."
"And man not you-lie-with in-beds of-woman detestable that."

In short above is a very brief showing that the man alreaady slep with women and loved it. this link is the detailed version. To summerize these 2 verses: "practicing hebrew str8 men" went to male temple prostitues for ritual sex to the fertility gods as Moses was leading them to the Promise Land.

11. Rom 1:27-28 Should be 18-32. adults turned from God, God changed them, results visible evil behavior

12. 1 Cor 6:9 call boy and temple prostitute, 1950 original Greek removed, meant masturbation before 1850
13. 1 Tim 1:10 temple prostitute

Generally a carbon copy of the Hebrew word for sododmite above. see for deetails on these verses and much more on all these verses.

14. Jude 1:7 general sexual immorally of Sodom and Gomorrah with no hint of sexual orientation

Refers to no sexual orientation just general immorality of the 2 cities.

4205 pornos (por'-nos); from pernemi (to sell; akin to the base of 4097); a (male) prostitute (as venal), i.e. (by analogy) a debauchee (libertine): KJV-- fornicator, whoremonger.

The male prostitute is nearly 100% chance of being a str8 man selling his body to women as was plenty common in those days. Rare was the gay prostitute, this was just not the situation in those days that a man needed to pay a man for sex (other than male temple prostitutes)

Monday, December 10, 2007

Challenge Invite me to show you Gay is not Sin

"My Challenge to Pastors"
A Challenge to Pastors and their congregationRead all of this if you really want to take up my challengeFairness is key so don't skim over these instructions
Is Gay Sin or not? Lets find out!

I have an ongoing challenge to any that truly believe gay is sin and are Christian. I cannot convince you no matter what FACTS I tell or show you and you cannot convince me so why try. Testimony is all the wonderful things God through Jesus Christ does in gay Christians' life. It also has the deep valleys one goes through along the way. Pointing out original Hebrew or Greek used in the Bible is a waste of time showing you the actual meaning. You have made up your minds that gay is sin and nothing can persuade you to dig into the reasons why you believe this.

So, why not bypass our brains altogether and just let God show you? I am not going into a spurt of wishful thinking, God does and will MOVE. So can we get to the bottom of this issue? Yes we can and it is really simple. But the solution is next to impossible because you or your church bans any gay minister to speak unless they come to get delivered or accept what you think about gays that it is sin.

But it is easy and really pretty much one sided to your favor. My challenge is you invite me and only me (well maybe my lover will be there after all wives are usually around their pastor husbands aren't they?). So you have all your congregation and all your ministry team by whatever name you call them and your pastor to operate, perform, fast/pray, teach, preach, lay hand on to cast out deliver or whatever your faith involves. You can bring up statics, history, real life story, ex-gays and whatever your faith think it can do to present gay is sin and asking God to manifest in some manner that you are right. You can take as long as you need (fasting usually means more than one meal) I will for myself cooperate, respect, allow, accept you laying hands on me , and I will listen intently to any info from any source you use as you present your case to me and before God. I emphasize I will respect your operation of acting in your faith and I will with all honesty lend myself to processes you wish to use. Meaning I will let you tell me processes that I should do. Like open my heart to Jesus to allow change even to the point of meaningfully praying a prayer for deliverance as you think Jesus does. I will not be dishonest and I will not pretend or fake anything. This is my word before God in Jesus name to you.

After you are satisfied you have done all and any reasonable space of time to let your prayers kick in (we are coming together not to operate in status quo where no visible answer may never be seen to anyone’s view or each party can claim victory). Note: you do not have all the time in the world and neither do I ,so all the time you needs will already be negotiated and also can be adjusted if required. Generally the only process that should take over the 1 to 3 hours which if having camp meeting may end up lasting through the day, others may want it all through the night, is the FASTING AND PRAYER to get certain demons out that Jesus mentioned needed extra time, which should not be more than 3 days unless negociated because you think more time is needed..
I expect you to abide by a time frame that will not ruin people work life or family life routine for any unacceptable time periods. This means mostly likely one day to 3 days. I personally will need I figure a few minutes to a few hours. I cannot imagine I need that many hours to explain anything. If I extend the time I need it will already be negotiated and will most likely be because were having camp meeting (camp meeting is an old term for a gathering that God really gets to moving, usually healings, dancing in the Spirit, and being baptized in the Holy Spirit, and worship that is too good to leave. My intentions are to show you gay is not sin. I will do what ever I feel like doing at the time it is my turn to speak. You already proven to me you won't listen, that is the whole point of us meeting in this challenge. Debating scripture gets us nowhere on issues you already are convinced that you are right.

Another note, as to throw a monkey wrench in, I will not go you your place to answer your questions as like I am an expert and will be a encyclopedia for you to ask questions to to get specific answers you want. I would be happy to at another meeting to go over the verses with you if I do not cover any at this challenge. Once again, I would be coming to show you gay is not sin, how I do this may not even make sense to you at first, but I did not come to satisfy you that you can just say I am twisting verses to my own wishes. I came to show you gay is not sin and that is what I will leave you with when I am done.

To ease your mind I want to assure you I am not a freakish bazaar creep that will do wild embarrassing or cultic practices in your sight. In the left column your will see a link to my statement of faith. Click it to see what I believe. Also, I have been in the Assemblies of God since January 1974. I say this so there will be no mystery about me and my faith. I certainly do not accept AOG's anti-gay doctrine and their pre-trib doctrine, or their trend towards modern version Bibles, but generally we have most beliefs in common. If you hate Pentecostalism remember that has nothing to do with gays and your issue would be with Pentecostal churches not me. I would be respecting your denomination so I would expect the same from you about my Pentecostal background.

So, this effort is to get God to move in a manner that convinces everyone in your church gay is for sure sin or gay is positively not sin. If you are not a Pentecostal church, then you may not understand that God does move and he does move TODAY. If you are expecting a debate and you are smarter than me let me tell you from the get go, you are not smarter than me on the gay issues concerning the Bible unless you have done many decades of result on everything gay present and past. I may not be able to give you documentation, but I been there done that thing. If I say it I did in fact see it and it is in fact a fact. remember this challenge is not about who has the most detailed facts, but to see is gay sin or not as end result of our meeting together.

Warning! I am not come to play nice pastor man with intent of giving warm fuzzys. The case against you is serious. You have 630 million counts of murder on your hands and you cannot understand this at all. Christians are not the judge jury and executioners. I come to show you how God feels. I am not God and I am not come to show you how I feel. If I show you how I feel I show what you know anyone can display, upsetness anger, frustration, whining, complaining, and other human displays that is allowable for decent Christian folk. I am NOT a cult or someone supplied with device that could harm. I am not come to vent any of what I may feel you deserve on to you. I am come to let God show himself. Moses stood at the Red Sea held out his staff and did nothing else. Moses did not put a sump pump in that sea to make dry land to walk across. I am not bringing a sump pump either. This will be me saying to you God will split the sea so you can see.

I have an ace up my sleeve I come to cheat on this challenge because it cannot be a challenge if I know the outcome. But in fairness I make this challenge so you can see the Lord move in your mist and so you may repent in time as the hour is late, plagues come on your and yours. Now we live in a time that YES indeed plague and great disasters manmade and natural, but you can personally add more to yourself.

Moses did not go to Pharaoh to heal any diseases or baptize anyone in the Holy Spirit. He did not go to turn a few fishes into enough to feed everyone. He was sent to say what God will do if they don't set his people free.

This is not Moses' day and I am not Moses' (I am nobody) If God send such people to you they will have choices of what to say concerning what God will do or not do. And they will say it as often as they like. Moses was told 10 specific things to say about what God was going to do. These that are sent to you today God intends to trust them and do what they command him to do. The mouths of the new messengers speak and it is done.

Guarantee you without lifting an arm JUST with my mouth life as you know it will be changed. However, I am not a robot and I love Jesus and he is really really neat and so wonderful I will be actively attempting to persuade you so I won't have to operate in my given authority.
So, now am I a fruit cake, a nut, well maybe. This is what you decide. Do you ever plan to put your Christian walk where your mouth is? You say gays are possessed, so cast out the demons, you say you trust God, then act in your faith, you say you love the gay person, then explain how you get gays into the verse you say condemn gays.

You can act now or you can wait. It will not be fun now; can you image what it will be like if you wait? Read Lev. 26 and see God's process over 6000 years of disobedience. The Church today is in the 4th level of disobedience to God and there are 1260 days set in stone to come to spank the Church (Christians).

Perhaps you will invite me to hear me as a man of God and so learn of the things to come and be ready for them so that you can maintain your faith in those days. The church is far from ready, they that will rule the world are in power today have placed convincing things that would persuade God's elect if they are not WATCHING (Rev. 3:3). Churches almost (all of them yours too) are given over to antichrist some directly others have no clue that their activities are directly in support a one world religion.

Want Healings, want God to move in a manner more to your expectations, invite me to preach as you would invite any minister to come to your church to minister to you. We can have a wonderful time in the Lord. Want to accept my challenge you will also see God move, but conditions will not be wonderful camp meeting where you just came to get blessed. They will be that of changing your belief structure concerning gays (this can evolve quickly into a wonderful camp meeting or it will leave you and yours devastated for some time to come as you will have to deal with the gay issue until your repent) Do nothing (don't deal with the gay issue, just remain as you are condemning them) and the 1260 will hit you like an 18 wheeler at 60 miles an hour while you and your loved one stand in its path having no idea it is coming.

Requirements: click to see in invitation Instructions

Penalty phase: Because homophobes can be so terrible in their treatment of gays part of this challenges includes a penalty factor. Do to the lack of respect that Christian have for gays in general I expect the same mockery found in Christian chat rooms. This challenge has conditions to prevent disrespect. Besides the invitation instructions above that is general for any invites I get for any reason there are extra requirements upfront for those inviting me to accept my challenge.
I gave my word I would respect you during your ministry to me to showing me gay is sin and you calling God to move showing you are right. I will not mock you or argue points that I almost cannot bare to hear because it is such a lie and normally feel forced to respond. You in my challenge are free to show me gay is sin and I know you cannot and so you would say some pretty unsubstantiated things about gays. When it is my turn I just know the mockers will speak out and maybe worst. I do not want my challenge to turn into you control the stage. You are not a talk show hosts that will attack with vigor their invited guest and almost leaving them with seconds of the 5 minutes allotted time to them to speak.

So controls will be negotiated to prevent this. Probably additional legally drawn papers or money set in accounts for this purpose. A dollar amount set to each time someone disrespects or interrupts my time. Your participation on my turn will be my selecting you to submit as I allowed myself to submit to you for laying on hands, listening praying for deliverance and so forth. If your mockery advances to make the challenge useless because you barred God from MOVING because you would not allow my turn, then a penalty amount for my wasted time with you will have been negotiated. The purpose of this challenge is to let God reveal who is right or wrong by GOD MOVING.

Qualifications phase: This challenge is negotiated with a pastor (top leader or church or group) This challenge is not for small groups. If you are not much more the a home church then you will need to partner with a larger church or group. I don't know what minimum number I will accept so just ask. It will always be at your place or your provided place. Anyone can be involved to get the pastors into the main negotiator stage. The invitation instructions covers me getting to your place. All details will be pre-negotiated so no surprises comes unexpectedly. God is full of surprises so this is not what I mean.

Fear and lack of faith is always a concern we all like to think God will do nothing. This is not my problem don't let it be yours.

Get ready people the TWO are about to Meet once they meet the Last Days' Clock starts ticketing again. Possibly in 1994 that Clock stopped (Jubilee Calendar ended) because after that date antichrist's kingdom was ready enough to start as all things really was done enough to start it. We are on barrowed time waiting for the TWO.