Friday, February 29, 2008


Pastors around the world Hunger for the Move of God

From: a.kumar kara [] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:15 AMTo: stablesministries@gay4jesus.comCc: stablesministries@gays4jesus.comSubject: FW: Prayer

Dear minister of Jesus Christ,Yesterday I have seen your Blog in yahoo messenger online. I am an independent preacher minister Pentecostal. How I will heal to others? Please guide me spiritually.... also I like to invite to my church, India? Will you like to visit our small congregation and do some healing here? We are expecting your miracle visit to my place.
Pastor Nayak, IndiaHope Church


Matt 4:24
24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them. (KJV)

Matt 8:16
16 When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: (KJV)

Matt 12:15
15 But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all; (KJV)

Matt 14:14
14 And Jesus went forth, and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them, and he healed their sick. (KJV)

Matt 15:30
30 And great multitudes came unto him, having with them those that were lame, blind, dumb, maimed, and many others, and cast them down at Jesus' feet; and he healed them: (KJV)

Matt 19:2
2 And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there. (KJV)

Mark 1:34
34 And he healed many that were sick of divers diseases, and cast out many devils; and suffered not the devils to speak, because they knew him. (KJV)

Mark 3:10
10 For he had healed many; insomuch that they pressed upon him for to touch him, as many as had plagues. (KJV)

Luke 4:40
40 Now when the sun was setting, all they that had any sick with divers diseases brought them unto him; and he laid his hands on every one of them, and healed them. (KJV)

Mark 16:15-20
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

It is almost that every time Jesus spoke to crowds when he finished he begin laying on hands and healing everyone that came to him. Of all doctrines one would think that a mainstay in ministering would be laying hands on the sick and those in need of a variety of healings mentioned in the verses above. I pasted in just a few verses where large numbers came to hear Jesus and afterwards he healed the sick.

Mark mentions tongues. This tongues stuff is explained in detail in Acts chapter 2. I believe being baptized in the Holy Spirit is not a requirement to heal someone in Jesus Name, but fact shows this is much more in the rare category and usually is in the form of a long healing process which is not very distinguishable from your body or doctors doing the work.

Step 1) ensure you are Baptized in the Holy Spirit.

Step 2) have a great desire to have Jesus heal others through you.

Step 3) prepare yourself for the steps below.

Step 4) do not let a gathering you hold go by without providing a time to lay hands on sick folk.

Step 5) don’t let non-movement of God discourage you.

Step 6). figure out any additional steps you discover may help.

Step 7) have an idea what to do with the results.

Step 1) ensure you are Baptized in the Holy Spirit.
Baptism in the Holy Spirit is about the most important factor: (pastor Nayak you already have this)

1 Cor 12:4-11
4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

9. . . . to another the gifts of healing

Gifts of healing is a gift that Christians can simply heal others, but great as this would appear because many get healed what lacks is a balance and so having or using just one gift can puff you up and your ministry can turn into a Christian cult following. Jesus is at the center and centering on healing can distract from the one that heals for you are not the healer but the conduit of Jesus’ healing.

So seek severally the gifts of the Spirit. Baptism in the Holy Spirit is key to receiving gifts. Having been given gifts as can be easily shown in tongues is at your will 24 hours a day you can choose to speak in tongues and nothing but your will can stop you. Gifts are given and they are subject to your will. Having gifts does not make you holy or closer to God as a Christian not baptized. Because you have the Baptism does not mean your thought and beliefs and ideas of God. Don’t make your operations in the gifts put you on a pedestal and you think what you say is 100% right. You want to heal others seek the gifts of healing, also know that healing someone does not have to be gifts of healing it can be your other gifts and love that also can heal others. You may not ever get the gifts of healing, but you will have other gifts and operating in the gift you have receive can produce almost the same effect as having the gifts of healing, but enhanced because you work through a variety of gifts to obtain what someone with the gifts of healing can do blind folded. Lots more to this step but I am trying not to write a book.

Step 2) have a great desire to have Jesus heal others through you.
Is really quite obvious, but again emphasis remains on Jesus not the healings.

Step 3) prepare yourself for the steps below.
This is about the most important part of everything do with healing. You should be ready at a moment notice to healing the sick in any situation. This can happen just for the fact you are a real Christian, because it may be 100% Jesus wanting a person healed and will use you simply because he just will. This is not the way to receive answers to desiring healings to be common in your meetings.

To be actively ready at any moment means you have already prayed yourself blue in secret and you have read whatever you could about healing people. I also think it is good to know counterfeit healer tactics. Many religions and other practices use some sort of healing people rituals. You should understand what is God and what is the world in healings. Some know how to heal and because it works in front of your eyes does not make it God or satan. It could be either. Mostly we say outside of the Bible it has to be satan. We are so wrong on so many fronts. So generally you should have for a great deal of time already had and have interests in seeing people healed. If this is a new thing for you you do have a lot of homework ahead of you. Jesus is wonderful not being sick is about the best feeling human bodies can know if it is sustained. So know your topic. (You do not have to memorize the Bible just know it).

So above is an academic background you should be and have obtained. Bible schools and colleges may not be a good place or may be actually a bad place to gain background if you go there and 100% accept all they teach. Upper education has pros and cons so discernment gift should be in full operation as you study in such facilities.

More importantly is preparation by prayers (possibly fasting but that would be on rare occasions or your situation and desire to fast feeling this urging to do so) (fasting is a drink water, at least if you want water fasting included (this is a your choice not someone telling you thing) you should drink in a day otherwise health issues will rise very fast) but again fasting is mostly not needed most of the time.

So prayer closet is a must, praising God is a must, worshipping God is a must, thanking God is a must these done in private. Now don’t assume a ritual that is usually standard in Christianity to these few things. In Pentecostal churches sweet praising and worshipping and singing in the spirit and such are really really nice. But missing is what is praise? Praise is saying you did a good job and explaining what was the good job. Just saying I praise God is great too, but think about it there God is thinking “then don’t just tell others to praise God, actually praise me by saying what it is I did that you are telling others to praise me. Praise God is a command not the actual praise. Thank God for what? Yes repeating these popular phrases is wonderful and yea God loves it to no end and yes miracles abound in them. I worship you. So what does worship mean? I hope you are getting the point that if you want to operate with healing manifesting in your services or rallies then understand what you say in the process of these common phrases.

There you are standing in front of your congregation or rally you have done your homework perhaps with many years of crying to God and studying you have prepared and you know your topic (not the sermon topic which you should also know) but you know the time in the service now is to heal people. It is crucial to have your background in the Lord strong and unwavering. Healing ministries is not particularly liked by satan and his specialty is to corrupt it. Money flows easier; fame makes you feel godlike and these corrupt people very fast. Preparing is getting yourself aware of what you are stepping into.

NONE of these steps are really any good if you base your ministry in modern English version Bible or translations using those as a base. There are two sets of manuscripts the corrupt and the uncorrupt, both are 2nd century. If you use a Bible search to see if it is a RECEIVED TEXT translation or a King James Version translation. Today the KJV is really the only version from the Received Text so using any other version translated to your native languages is setting you up to be conditioned to anti-christ acceptance in that day.

Use KING JAMES BIBLE or ones translated from the RECEIVED TEXT

Step 4) do not let a gathering you hold go by without providing a time to lay hands on sick folk.
It is really hard when nothing happens for long periods so never get discouraged if no healings take place and you feel like a fool. You may lose people it may get tougher. But you want a healing ministry as part of your ministry. This may take a toll so dig in. Now maybe from day one people will be healed so right away you become popular and you have to deal with that instead. But like salvation sinners prayer should be offered at every gathering for people can actually take a step of faith and accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. Having a period also for inviting people to receive the Baptism in the Holy Spirit should be a regular feature of your service. No one will ever get healed in your service in front of everyone unless you offer a time for laying on hands.

Maybe you are doing this now, you email indicates then if you are you are not seeing regular healings.

Step 5) don’t let non-movement of God discourage you.
Was covered in step 4 above.

Step 6). figure out any additional steps you discover may help.
Now comes the: you are not me and you are not anyone else part. You are you God called you. You lived your life and now you have a ministry you are a pastor you are in authority you can delegate and give orders and seek others and their talents to provide a ministry that is truly you calling. Here is where no one can help you. You should not follow an instruction manual to create your ministry. Use instructions as guidelines not rules. One thing I have grown to dislike like is the pride churches take in their entertainment as it were. Almost church competing who has the best choir or electronic presentations.

Singing inspired by God or the talents some people have is amazing use it to glorify God not to be the best in town. Money big time problems be careful in asking for it and be accountable for it. (don’t buy $23,000 toilet seats as one minister has done).
But beyond the usual running of your ministry’s operation and logistics to make the service run smoothly step 6 means if it is not working toss it. Maybe not that directly but meaning figure out something. I again am not you, what works for me may be a disaster for you. Maybe you sing and write songs, take a second look at that and try your talents in imaginative directions. Maybe old world religion songs and styles had their day and you been thinking on trying out an urge inside you to try something new. Maybe you got a comical side. This holier than thou approach to ministering just are ingredients for a dead church. I am trying to say use your God given brain to make something not working work.

Don’t get stuck in morality issues. This is disgusting to God flat out. People trying to say what is right and what is wrong to 7 billion people with all the cultures steers people away from these coming days that Jesus will return. Let God deal with morality. Add morality issues to your message and almost guarantee for a hard fall when the church spanking begins. Keep moral issues to a general condition of mankind and don’t point out specific areas as though you think you know the issues about it. Keep focused on reaching the Lost for Christ not how dirty people are. Once you talk about the filth of other then you invite your filth to be openly shown. Jesus came to take away our burden not to add to them. This is not condoning sins; it is bringing the Gospel to the Lost and giving God the opportunity to write his laws on tablets of flesh.

Too many pastors are just not looking “out of the box” God is throughout the universe treat God as God. Jesus Created all things nothing created were not created by him. Not saying God is bored but he gave us a mind and many talents.

I am greatly saddened when I see ministers center their ideals on large numbers of people especially youth. Ministers that use their talents to create a large ministry and add in as a major factor their ideas of morality which is actually not Bible, but they believe it is.

So avoid centering on issues you may think important so you make a main message. But also do not back down from a message you know is from God, just be ready to explain how you make it from God and that your info sources really are backing your messages. Tough times are coming, but the Joy of the Lord is out strength, so don’t place burdens and weights on those that come to you. Hard not to talk about issues you think are important morally, but remember it is not your job to judge 7 billion people or even one person.

Aim your seeking to have regular healings in the direction of reaching the lost and lifting the burdens. People love getting entertained us all the talents at your disposal, but never make entertainment a competition or a means to keep people coming and staying. Use entertainment (talents) to glorify God. But first and foremost is your message. Don’t trade your message for entertainment that brings people to your church. You are about the message God gave you and your ministry is based on you and that message. Just keep in mind interesting ways to get people to hear your message.

Some may get 10s of 1000s others may have a 100 or so or less, do what you can with what you got don’t beg other to give you more. Everyone has got enough to do God’s will as you need more it will be given. Show how you can use what you have (keeping as close to debt free as possible) don’t try to buy your way to a healing ministry or more people. Also step outside your church. Your church is your base maybe, but this is not a cookie cutter Christian time period. Those Christians doing same thing as year after year will not see mighty move of God.

Think about sort of unrelated to your church separate ministry. Have your regular church services (maybe set up guest speakers as need be) but also plan testing out trying out new ideas. As a pastor of all people you know how to gather people so maybe hold meetings elsewhere, but radically alter your status quo style. Find who you are or might be. All I am saying is NOW is the RIGHT time. Don’t let your roots hold you back. There are 7 days I a week and all are not Sunday meeting or Wednesday meeting times. You can try HEALING ministry on other days.

Testimony of Healing ministry founders are “nothing happens” overnight, but one night Jesus began healing in their meeting and from there their healing ministry developed.

Step 7) have an idea what to do with the results.
The probably most important aspect of healing ministries is what you do with results. There you are people getting healed. NOW more people hear about it and come. So what of them when they leave? If in your church and they stay with your church you can feed them God’s word as you do your flock. A great importance is once healed and or saved but they really are not likely to go attend your church what will you give them to cement their faith in Jesus Christ?

As we see many Healing ministries that are large usually have counselors and so take those accepting Jesus or gotten healed or both back somewhere to explain what went on. Maybe give them a Bible or reading materials and strongly suggest they find a church that believes in healings and baptism in the Holy Spirit as soon as they can. Give them also guidelines. We live in the Last days. As many as 5 billion people will be killed in a 7 year period in which half or those are very likely to occur while Christians are still here before the Rapture. It is not good to saved them heal them and send them out to be slaughtered. The types of things to come are things that minutes can produce not months or years. We do not need to promote fear, but we also cannot let them go without warnings of what being a “LAST DAYS” Christians means. Blessings will for sure come, but also antichrist’s kingdom is nearly built.

Summary is balance your desire to bring physical healing to people with the reality of our day. You do not need to be an expert on the LAST DAYS or much of anything to have a healing ministry, just remember these you minister to our going out into the DAYS that bring Jesus back. And it is not going to be watching our favorite TV show and zap we are in Heaven. When we see Heaven (meet Jesus in the air with the dead in Christ rising first) we will know and lived in great death and destruction beyond measure. We will have been made ready for eternity with Christ during a 1260 day period and not at “anytime or any moment” as many pastors suggest today.

Healing power can make you feel godlike know this so as to keep the Glory pointed where it belongs, to Jesus Christ who is the healer.

God Bless you in Jesus Christ’s Name

Monday, February 25, 2008

Trying to get much more info on Brant Baker

Response to a comment from one of my Blogs

Hi thanks for your follow-up post, my added comment is on a broader picture than perhaps the scope you implied in your comments

I worked in the music ministry of Shekinah fellowship during its Long Beach days.

I really enjoyed that large choir am I right as I recall Brant inherited Kathryn’s choir? I have Shekinah Fellowship Album from the 80s.

Brant was known to have come out of a gay "past" as had many other guys in the ministry.

So, this is outright saying Brant was gay? “out of a gay past” indicates he once was gay but something change and he is not gay now. Should this be true, then why would Paul Crouch erase Brant from recorded existence? I would agree many that were regulars that I saw during the several times I went to his services would certainly seems gay (not many stereotype, but this weird process many call gaydar.

Brant certainly channeled KK and was reported to have suddenly become possessed of her mannerisms, etc., after a critical visit to her ministry

Channeled? Channeled is a demonic practice. I worked for a company that sold audio cassettes probably the person that has the largest fanfare, she channeled some master from the other side. So you may have made a play on words, but it was likely like another close contact to Brant said in private gatherings they had with a group of friends. Just dressing up like Kathryn where if you did not know better you would think it was her. And another reference to demonic action, which I personally think disgusting of you as a supposed Christians to being defining action in satanic terms about a person that has about the most fantastic ministry is a great while (at least from the view of and outsider looking in from those that came to see him preach and hope to get healed). I was also impressed when I saw Kathryn Kualman’s services on TV. And still this point has little meaning. Gay transvestites are great actors and they get quite involved in whom they are impersonating and often take a liking to a specific character. This is not remotely related to terms like possessed so those that reported it as possession were not in touch with real life themselves. (personally I am not at all into opposite sex dressing but respect those that do it well).

I can confirm "anonymous's" claim about Brad's brother Kevin as well. Kevin was a nice guy and routinely had "temptation" trouble in local gay restroom haunts, etc.

Confirmation is centered on making restrooms a focal point. Fact is around the 12th century when the false anti-gay doctrine was invented it began to force gays into not the normal accustom fashion of people meeting for intimate relationships. Str8 could meet about anywhere, but gays would be harassed even at the slightest hint of intimacy. I personally would not got to parks or bushes or places that if seem may appear all you are doing is waiting for sex. I sort of old fashion and like being asked out on a date or asked to have this dance. However, many people just can’t afford to have any sort of relationship and are forced into a manner that would seem offensive to most. Once anyone gets use to a anonymous sex style it become pretty much their norm. I can fairly certainly say that what maybe ordinary sexual immorality if str8 did it as it were, when gays do it for said reasons the sins are charge to the Christian church on a Church wide charge. This means in that day the shaking begins the Church will be spanked for church wide sins. So be sure if you are a part of forcing gays into a way of sex styles normally would be sin God sees it as you doing the sinning not the actual person that has found it the only way they can know to have an intimate life with anyone. The are 660 million gays so most gays in the world do not run off to restrooms. So focusing on Kevin’s restroom activities is crude and showing lack of knowledge on why and who. Because you don’t like something does not place an act as temptation. Str8 Christians that are married and having regular sex often stand up and shout out to others that are gay and single that any attempt at having a relationship is bowing to temptation. It can be shown 69% of str8 single Christians have sex on their first dates. So bringing up restrooms without presenting Kevin’s personal testimony is like saying all str8 men fantasize about having sex with 2 lesbians. It really is not necessary to bring up unless some details of the processes are also included. Gay topics can be sensitive and so like many large companies and police forces do when their staff appears to abuse people with stereotyping with the negative they send them to sensitivity classes.

Joe Dallas also came out of Shekinah and knew Brant well - he is now a major "ex-gay" counselor and psychologist who, according to rumors, was heavily influenced by Brant's death to renounce a gay Christian lifestyle and go back to straightdom.

So your information about Joe leave a ton of info out that leads to misleading conclusions. Knowing Brant well implies he knew Brant was gay, perhaps knew Brant thought gay was sin and was going to Desert Stream (if he was) and so aids had to be God’s punishment for being gay (very very commonly thought by Str8 Christians in the day Brant died). My 35 years research into ex-gays including detailed research into Desert Stream (had several ongoing email with the leader of DS at that time in the 80s though not sure the year) I know Desert Stream lied vehemently about gays and they practically discarded any sort of concept of present Bible study results (as most Christians today do that think gay is sin). It might also imply that he knew Brant like dressing up as Kathryn and acting like her and generally it was a fun party atmosphere during a time Brant was still in Marihuana. So it was not until Brant died that Joe connected aids to gay is sin beside all the surrounding Christians condemning gays. My research into over 100 ex-gay ministry leaders and founders show most had very little if any Bible training and grew up in very strict Christians homes. Most were bisexual too. To be a counselor and psychologist and ex-gay counselor means you either went to college got a license which means you know in detail the findings even back in the 80’s that gay is not a disease and as a few years went by that there was nothing harmful or wrong with gays. Now to still think gay is sin means you must have went to a Bible college again I am the expert and contacted Bible colleges galore talk to many professors and students, gay just is not taught and what is said about gays is not much more than quoting the 700 yr old false anti-gay doctrine. It is very sad thing to hear someone having no resource to turn to except homophobic church during the death of a friend. Now you add this friend was used mightily of God to save and heal 1000s maybe 10s of 1000s. So surrounded by the group that promptly erased Brant Baker (TBN) and so any source he would have is gay is sin so change. I know the horrible words people say. Even today regularly this one Christians from Christian chat room always pops up on my ask asked me if I got aids yet. In the 80s maybe stupidity about aids was excusable, but in 2008 it is not excusable. Percentagewise more str8s have aids and dwarfs gays in numbers. Also so many disease target specifics. Brest cancel I don’t need to explain this. People get sick. Horrors of horrors it is a highly likely probability aids want created by the US govt. Again another story. The history of ex-gays in documented it now and even way back then could be said “no such thing as ex-gays” Today we got tons of data and follow up. I get so many ex-gays from the most educated to ex-gay leaders and founders to ex-gays swearing to me they are delivered and yet none are. Within a few questions it is easy to show they are not changed. Joe like most of the ex-gays leaders and counselors come into this function become of not studying. Of course there is a lot more to all this than my simple conclusions. But I go into the ex-gay questions elsewhere. It is really bad that those that believe so strongly won’t even allow a gay person to talk let alone give testimony in their church or anywhere.

So rapping this up I want to say I did not intend to make this a direct comment to Dave Koerner and it is not met to be read as a direct response to him. I would like Dave to give a bit more detail as he seems to vaguely say he is one that believes gay is sin, but somehow managers not to be direct in giving details about his comments. Sounds like he knows more than he wrote that would give a better understanding to a man that spent years and started becoming a national ministry and often on TBN with really very good quality ministry with a amazing choir participation in the healing part of the service. That he so influenced Benny Hinn that Benny’s ministry if near a fraud counterfeit of Brant’s. What Brant did with Kathryn Benny did with Brant. It is a known fact Benny did hang around Brant. Hearing old recording of Brant makes you wonder if Brant was copying Benny, but the fact is Brant was dead a decade almost before anyone knew Benny existed.

Please, people give honor to whom honor is due. Brant perhaps was the first heavily anointed gay faith healer and certainly one that was gain fame rapidly with styles that has so influenced modern Christianity of current day. He did not have the luxury of many resources of the gay community today. In his day most gay resources were secular and the common one were usually bars. Some gay churches were beginning to gain some national and even international growth like MCC, but I remember nearly all the MCC’s I went to back then were a place the very obviously gay people went and they were about as far from Pentecostal as you can get. I felt quite out of my comfort zone in gay Christian church, but their message was about as right on as any church denomination you would go to. MCC LA had about 3000 in it congregation and enough gays present to get a feel of nearly in a regular church because more gays that looked just like anyone you see anywhere and would have no idea they were gay was there. Most gays you would not know by seeing them.

It would be nice if Dave could have added info about Brant’s attempts at searching truth in gay resources if he had this. So far all my reading about Brant show no hint Brant did not more than his clothing store and upper class drug parties which apparently were mainly gays, but not real info on this, people talking about him does not say they were gay parties.

In the 80s aids was in the USA spread generally 2 ways drug needles and gay sex, Brant talks about Marihuana and this is not needles so that really says he got it from sex. It also was known those using various drugs let many guards down and so sex practices could place one in too many partners and so forth. After the 80s more knowledge became more available and we began to see actual aids numbers were large in str8s. This was noted in several counties that fit perfect into conspiracy theories. I have seen incredible documentation from scientist on this. Besides so much info that demand a verdict aids is very very likely to have been manufactured. Those that research into the biological warfare thing get really powerful info concerning the manufacturing of virus to kill populations. The very locations on Earth where aids is mainly str8 are the people that the elite wants killed off. Bad as this sounds anyone that rejects so much info is burying their face in the sand, They just don’t want to see it.

Dave writes as those he leans towards gay is sin, I hope I am wrong but I am probably not. This area of gays being used by God is very interesting to me. I have so many visions from God about openly gay ministers having similar ministries as Brant had. Brant lived in a day the closet is where gays had to stay when publically have Christian ministries. TODAY gays Christians need not to fear their str8 Christian brothers and sisters. TODAY is the day Pentecostal gays will take the reins. Previously non-Pentecostal gays held the reigns of gay Christians return to dignity. They did well, they laid the foundations and made strong the way. Pentecostals are not necessarily as patient. Like Azusa street began the modern day Pentecostal movement it took centuries of non-Pentecostals paving the way tediously breaking the ground enduring long periods as they lay the framework in which Pentecostal could rise and take the world with leaps never before seen, more people in the world can see the move of God at the same time than every other time combined. But as with all Christianity reins must be given over to the new times and season and moves of God. How willingly will those seated in high Christian place yield to God coming messengers. You think Azusa street or previous faith healing ministries of the past were something to see, nothing yet since Jesus has ever been seen or will again than what will be seen when Pentecostal gays are fully awaken and given the reins. Brant Baker was a taste just a half spoonful to get an idea. Lonnie first Jesus Freak, in Vineyard church’s history page gives 1980 saying Lonnie said “come Holy Spirit” and Vineyard church grew about a fast as any church ever did.

I can’t even get through a day without the presence so powerful of the Lord that this coming changing of the guard is just about to happen. What will be seen will be amazing. It is hard to explain. Today we got so hypocritical and so many think the church is corrupt we all gone so far astray how is it that we can even call over selves God’s People we have so venture into disobedience and we truly believe our disobedience is actually us obeying God. Church wide God’s people need to be brought back. Go figure those it hated the most are the very ones that will get them back on course for God.

As Always I want to end begging those that read this still thinking gay is sin that you would please please please explain how you get words in the Bible to talk about real gays. What is simply not found in any group, church, or person saying gay is sin is an explanation of a verse, a word, or a phrase they claim means it is talking about gays. 14 verses in that antigay doctrine what can be so hard as to present info that words like sodomite mean gays instead of male temple prostitutes or where did Paul see gays so he could write about gays. Best I ever hear is “it is simple” “God hates it” “its in the Bible” or they quote one of those 14 verses. For them they did God’s duty and I should just accept what they said is final and means gay is sin. They love to say if I so much as try to use any source then I am twisting the word. Well my begging has resulted in total failure still over 800,000 plus homophobes later still no one that thinks gay is sin will explain how they get gays into the Bible. Rape to them means gays, I don’t understand it please help me know how 1000s of males and females raping to death 2 angels makes gay sin. Then right after this Lot’s daughters raped him and had babies. Wasted time asking any person that thinks gay is sin, but I will go on asking one would think if gay was such a sin then it would really be pretty easy to present some strong Bible facts and historical facts about Paul and others of that day showing this was sin Biblically speaking. This last paragraph was to try to hit home further meaning gay is not sin just alone based on no one can back up their mouths against gays.

Thanks for your time
God Bless you