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From: Mike R

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 6:12 PM

Subject: How Geo engineering And The Aerosol Spraying Of Our Skies Affects Our Health

How Geo engineering And The Aerosol Spraying Of Our Skies Affects Our Health

For decades, governments and scientists worldwide have been denying the existence of discreet operations which (for various reasons) use military aircrafts to spray our skies with chemical toxins. Such operations have often been dismissed as conspiracy theories, or in many cases a misinterpretation of condensation trails (contrails). Governments are now finally admitting that geo engineering is a reality and have stated that despite any detrimental effects to our health, will continue these operations indefinitely.
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They've been called Chem trails, aerial spraying, aerosol emissions, cirrus clouds, among many other terms. The largest reports come from Canada and U.S. but it happens all over the world including countries such as France, Germany, New Zealand, Australia, the United Kingdom among many others. If you live in these countries, just look above you as you'll see them at some point throughout day or week. Often these jets leave just a thick wisp of a trail or they leave a long line of dashed trails across the whole sky. Are they turning their engines off and on? And so frequently? And why the "X's" which have been observed and documented all over the world? There are thousands of photos on the web of these patterns.

The federal laws in almost every nation on earth do not allow commercial aircraft to cross flight paths so close and so quickly. These jets are therefore under military control. And what about the prismatic colors often observed in the resultant aerosol haze illuminated by sunlight?

If the haze was primarily water vapor, carbon monoxide and negligible amounts of hydrocarbons, the prismatic colors would essentially be that of a rainbow. But, instead it is either magenta and green or broad bands of orange and yellow. All elements through which sunlight passes give a signature color which is totally unique to that element. Through spectroscopy a number of heavy metals have been shown to be ever-present in our breathable atmosphere. All heavy metals, as you may know, cause the dementia symptoms associated with Alzheimer's Syndrome.

One purpose which is now well documented according to researchers, is to manipulate the weather. Karsten Brandt, German meteorologist states, "The Federal Army is Manipulating the Meteorological maps."

The disruption of radar signals is the main purpose theorizes Mr. Brandt in the interview. "I was surprised that this artificial cloud was so wide-spread. The radar images are stunning considering the needed tons of dispersed elements - although, the federal army claims that only small amounts of material were propagated. The military heads claim that the substances used are not harmful."

Johannes Remmel, German Green party representative states, "The government must provide explanations to the unsuspecting population." While radar is tracking suspicious aircraft, the Germany Military then uses counterfeit satellite imagery to hide their operations.

Since Chem trails are so widespread across the world, it is easy to rule out the idea that this is just military performing operations to disrupt radar signals as part of some sort of drill.

The forefront of these operations in the United States appears to be the US Navy, as detailed in "Death in the Air: Globalism, Terrorism & Toxic Warfare," by Dr. Len Horowitz. Many government watchdogs claim global depopulation, the targeted reduction of the world's population by two-thirds, is secretly the reason behind Chem trail spraying.

Chem trails differ from ordinary contrails in that they hang in the sky for hours and are often observed to be emitted from planes that fly crisis-cross routes, leading to the formation of ‘X’ and grid-like patterns in the sky. Chem trails also directly affect localized weather by turning a clear blue sky into a hazy overcast.

Last year, a KSLA news investigation found that a substance that fell to earth from a high altitude Chem trail contained high levels of Barium (6.8 ppm) and Lead (8.2 ppm) as well as trace amounts of other chemicals including arsenic, chromium, cadmium, selenium and silver. Of these, all but one are metals, some are toxic while several are rarely or never found in nature. The newscast focuses on Barium, which its research shows is a “hallmark of Chem trails.” KSLA found Barium levels in its samples at 6.8 ppm or “more than six times the toxic level set by the EPA.”

KSLA also asked Mark Ryan, Director of the Poison Control Center, about the effects of Barium on the human body. Ryan commented that “short term exposure can lead to anything from stomach to chest pains and that long term exposure causes blood pressure problems.” The Poison Control Center further reported that long-term exposure, as with any harmful substance, would contribute to weakening the immune system, which many speculate is the purpose of such man-made chemical trails.

Indeed, barium oxide has cropped up repeatedly as a contaminant from suspected geo engineering experimentation.
Barium causes asthma, which has reached epidemic proportions across the world. It is also a powerful immune suppressant. In the barium mines the workers all have what's called baritosis, a special type of asthma, which surprisingly is worse on the weekend when they're not in the mines working. It gets better when they return to work. Did you also realize that we have a flu season every year and that it can last over 8 to 9 months? The incidence of allergies have risen so much that pharmaceutical companies' profits have tripled on their allergy medications and it can only be coincidence that those rise in profits also mirror the rise in aerosol operations which began in earnest in the fall of 1998.

Weather Modification may adversely impact agricultural crops and water supplies. If the weather is changed in one state, region or county it may have severe consequences in another region, state or county. And who is going to decide the type of weather modification experimentation and who it will benefit or adversely impact?
Artificial weather modification can impact all of us by reducing water supplies, changing agricultural crop production cycles, reducing crop production, and water availability. Since most experimental weather modification programs use chemicals released into the atmosphere the public could be subjected increasingly toxic or unknown substances that could adversely impact agricultural crops and trees.

Global dimming and persistent Chem trails that produce man-made clouds may have serious impacts on crop production. A recent corn crop study in Illinois shows that cloud cover reduces corn crop production while direct sunlight increases production. In addition, increasing man-made clouds may reduce the effectiveness of solar panels.

Gil Smolin, an Avian Bird Flu expert, noted on the Ron Owens Show on KGO Radio (January 5, 2006), that the flu was spread more quickly in the winter when there was a "lack of sunlight". Would man-made clouds be contributing to the lack of sunlight which might cause the Avian Bird flu to spread more quickly at other times of the year? Experimental weather modification programs could also exacerbate this problem by changing climate patterns and our weather.

In 2007, Rosalind Peterson, lifelong California resident, was invited by to address the United Nations Conference during both a workshop, held on September 5th, and a round-table session, held on September 6, 2007. Rosalind was invited to address this conference due to her research and work in the agriculture field relating to climate change, global dimming, and the effects of man-made clouds and experimental weather modification programs on agriculture. Rosalind is co-founder and President of the Agriculture Defense Coalition. Excerpts of her speech included the following:
International weather modification companies are modifying our weather with programs that cover thousands of square miles. Most of these programs use toxic chemicals or particulates to alter the weather with either ground-based or airborne releases that change or modify our local micro-climates.
Micro-climates
One of the things I am concerned about and that we need to address, now and in the future, is how these programs are affecting the micro-climates needed for our crops to survive and for pollination to take place.
If we artificially change the growing seasons, our pollinators like bees and birds (many now in sharp decline across the United States), may not survive, leaving many flowers, native plants, agricultural and trees crops that are not pollinated. Native grasses, plants, trees, and agricultural losses could be devastated not only in the United States but on a worldwide basis.
"Mitigation"
The "mitigation" drumbeat heard everywhere sounds impressive. However, these undefined measures may be detrimental to human health, crop production, soils, and drinking water supplies. It is now necessary to define what is meant by mitigation and to place all of these measures under congressional, agriculture, and public oversight. We do not want to place ourselves in the position of making huge mistakes by trading one pollution problem for another more serious problem.

The following example reflects a "monetary mitigation" agreement that allows polluters to purchase the ability to pollute more: (SF Chronicle - September 2007 - California makes deal with ConocoPhillips so that it can expand its refinery in the San Francisco Bay Area while paying the State of California $10 Million total so that it can release an additional 500,000 tons of pollutants from their Rodeo, CA, facility. In addition, their proposed expansion agreement would add one million tons a year of carbon dioxide from another facility that currently releases yearly 1.9 million tons a year.

This expansion also increases the amounts of nitrogen oxides, sulfur dioxide, soot and other pollutants that will be emitted when the facility expansion is completed.
Geo-engineering Schemes
Geo-engineering schemes, many developed to place chemicals, salt or other particulates into our atmosphere to control global warming, are waiting in the wings to be implemented or have already been implemented. The release of chemicals or particulates, like highly polluting sulfur, are now being discussed at NASA Ames (November 2006 Geo-engineering Meetings), and by many scientists worldwide waiting in the wings for funding.

These chemicals and particulates are being proposed so that the amount of direct sunlight reaching the earth is reduced in order to cool the planet. What is not being discussed, for example, is that California in 2006, took highly polluting sulfur out of diesel fuel due to asthma and other environmental problems. Now there are proposals to place sulfur back into our atmosphere to reduce global warming.

Where is the discussion about environmental, agriculture, and human health declines from this proposal? What about public and congressional oversight of these proposed programs? No public oversight, hearings or regulations are being proposed that would protect agriculture or public health. The actions of placing chemicals into our atmosphere is certainly going to have negative effects on crop production and tree health. And if you place in our skies chemicals to reduce the amount of sunlight reaching the earth, you are going to reduce the photosynthesis needed for crop production.

In order to produce crops and for plants and trees to grow and thrive they need direct sunlight. A recent corn crop study at the University of Illinois shows that increased cloud cover reduces corn crop production while direct sunlight increases production. Photosynthesis is the process where plants and trees gain the energy to grow and produce crops.

If we "mitigate" to reduce the amount of sunlight reaching the earth, negatively affecting crop production not only in the United States but worldwide, we could put the world in a food shortage crisis.

Two experiments are now believed to be reducing crop production in the United States:

• Micro-climate shifts caused by experimental weather modification programs and,
• a lack of photosynthesis cause by persistent jet contrails that produce (according to NASA), man-made clouds that change our climate. (Solar voltaic panels are beginning to produce less power due to these experiments.)

Man-made Clouds
NASA noted in an October 2005 newsletter, and from other study results, notes that increasingly persistent contrails are turning into man-made clouds that are ".trapping warmth in the atmosphere and exacerbating global warming." NASA goes on to note that: ".Any increase in global cloud cover will contribute to long-term changes in Earth's climate. Likewise, any change in Earth's climate may have effects on natural resources." (The Power Point Presentation begins at this point in Rosalind's presentation.)

Jets leaving persistent jet contrails are changing our climate to the degree that one jet leaving a persistent jet contrail has the following affect according to NASA's Patrick Minnis (February 2007): ".We had found that (jet) contrails were producing much more cloud cover than we ever thought they did. This one particular aircraft produced a contrail that covered an area of four thousand square kilometers and lingered for six hours. But we also found that there were contrails covering much larger areas and lasting more than twenty hours."

Dr. Wayne Evans, Atmospheric Scientist: ".You see the two contrails forming cirrus clouds. While most natural clouds actually reflect more sunlight back into space than they supply infrared heat energy towards the earth. However, cirrus clouds are different. They actually radiate more heat energy than they reflect solar energy back into space. Therefore, cirrus clouds contribute to global warming."

The picture up on the screen shows just one jet leaving a persistent jet contrail - that one trail can expand to cover an area of four thousand square kilometers and linger for more than twenty hours. This phenomenon was unheard of in the early fifties, sixties and seventies. It was not until the late 1980s that there was a huge change and people began to see the first persistent jet contrails that persist like we see today on a massive scale.

NASA studies show that climate change and global warming problems could be attributed to these types of persistent jet contrails and that jets cause them to form in our once clear blue skies. One of the issues needed to be addressed as we go forward is: "HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR SKIES.NATURAL OR MAN-MADE?" And right now we are making manmade clouds like the ones you see up on the screen. And these man-made clouds are trapping warmth in our atmosphere. Isn't it time that all of us addressed this global warming issue?

Chemical Atmospheric Heating and Testing Programs
There are also other experiments taking place in our atmosphere. The colors in this man-made cloud photograph in Mendocino County, CA, shows just one of many experiments. These colors represent a chemical reaction produced by experiments conducted by NASA and the United States Air Force. They are sending up canisters loaded with toxic chemicals designed to explode when superheated in order to conduct atmospheric and ionosphere experimental tests.

Some persistent jet contrails and man-made clouds, I believe, allow scientists to observe the results of these tests from either satellites or ground-based observation platforms. Without man-made clouds these tests could not be observed, as the chemicals would not produce a visible marker.

The NASA / U.S. Air Force CRESS 1990 Press Kit outlines an atmospheric NASA testing program (linked to H.A.A.R.P. and the U.S. Air Force, that could produce 4 the Vibrant Spectrums (auroras), referenced above, as shown in my poster pictures. In this program canisters are loaded with chemicals and superheated at different atmospheric levels. These canisters contain the following chemicals that could be polluting our air and are showing up with unusual spikes in drinking water supplies in across California (California State Department of Health, Drinking Water Division Water Test Results- Public Records, Sacramento, California), and Arizona:

In briefing notes published in May 2008 from the Council of Foreign Relations (CFRs) Geo engineering: Workshop on Unilateral Planetary Scale Geo engineering, the elite internationalist group lays out the exact same radical ideas now being touted by the Obama administration.

The following excerpts are taken from the document:

Geo engineering Strategies

Among all geo engineering schemes, those currently considered most feasible involve increasing the planetary albedo, that is, reflecting more sunlight back into space before it can be absorbed. There are a number of different methods that could be used to increase the planet’s reflectivity:

1. Add more small reflecting particles in the upper part of the atmosphere (the stratosphere which is located between 15 and 50 kilometers above the Earth’s surface).

2. Add more clouds in the lower part of the atmosphere (the troposphere)

3. Place various kinds of reflecting objects in space either near the earth or at a stable location between the earth and the sun.

4. Change large portions of the planet’s land cover from things that are dark (absorbing) such as trees to things that are light (reflecting) such as open snow cover or grasses.

Stratospheric Aerosols that might be engineered to migrate to particular regions (e.g. over the arctic) or to rise above the stratosphere (so as not to interfere in stratospheric chemistry).

Adding more of the right kind of fine particles to the stratosphere can increase the amount of sunlight that is reflected back into space.

Applied to geo engineering, various technologies could be used to loft particles into the stratosphere, such as naval guns, rockets, hot air balloons or blimps, or a fleet of highflying aircraft. Potential types of particles for injection include sulfur dioxide, aluminum oxide dust or even designer self-levitating aerosols.

A CFR geo-engineering meeting summary document from 1999 (PDF pages 12,13,14) also categorically states that the ultimate goal under “A technology strategy for global warming” is the implementation of a global Carbon Tax.
An valuable file folder is available containing 8 PDF's, all published by the CFR, and all concerning their Geo-Engineering Program.

An excellent new video summarizing concerns about Chem trails entitled Geo engineering and Eugenics has just been released by Media Rival Productions. This footage shows huge windowless airplanes dispersing Chem trails, as well as aircraft that appear to turn chem trail emissions on and off in mid-flight. The fact that something is being deliberately dispersed is clear from the video and cannot be confused with crop-dusting which is done by light aircraft at low altitudes.

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Stephen Black's Testimony (from around Date: 97-06-01 06:19:53 EDT)

^i^ While trying to find Stephen Black, to see if he would send promised information concerning the founders of Exodus International, I happened on his website and his testimony. It is typed in bold below and as usual my comments will have the little angel ^i^ at the beginning. Here goes:

That is how my reply to Stephen Black starts that he refers to in the email below he sent me a couple days ago. The date was a long time ago based on the other link above of the two. Two links above are the two correspondences I was having with Stephen that are on my website. I make no holds on my comments and they are for my ministry in response to anti-gays anywhere and everywhere. Why Stephen took 14 ½ years to tell me to take his testimony off my website will never know. However it was not a simple copy of his testimony, but a breakdown line by line with my comments.

Odd things is was that link was broken so no one could see it for who knows how long. Thanks to Stephen’s email to me I fixed the link. What homophobes say is very very very important to anyone calling themselves Christian as to how they arrive at their concepts about gays. Ex-gays generally should be proud of the testimony of getting delivered as they believe. What’s more Stephan was a leader in the ex-gay ministry. (By the way Stephen, I have off and on contacts with people in 1^st Stone, God is great and gives me much inside info at times).

As you read the 1^st paragraph of my reply to Stephen’s testimony I was asking him for info he promised to send me which he never did. (By the way I talk time to time with the founders of Exodus for the last couple years, I think from the horse’s mouth it is a no brainer who founded that organization).

Also, never have I banned ex-gays or any homophobes from freely posting to any of my sites. In fact I would love to hear from them Stephan for sure if you have whinings of my responses to you, then freely reply back or post to my sites. But don’t wait 14 years this time. If you don’t want people to see your testimony don’t put it on a public accessible site. It is amazing to hear any Christian say they don’t want someone to see their testimony. You are Executive Director, can you imagine and you don’t want people to know how your walk with Jesus began and being ex-gay all the more you would want your message out there. What an opportunity in Christ you have to rebut my comments and to explain deeper what you were meaning in your OLD testimony, you may want to update it or refresh it as these many years go by. Rewording areas that as you re-read your past writing and see you could have explain it better or missed something important or take something out. But what did you do? You out of the blue say I don’t have permission????? You don’t have permission to lie about gays and you are a public figure using the Bible to condemn gays and not answering questions as to the facts about the Bible and history and more. Again, you are very welcome to my sites to make as many comments as you like. I bet if any gays come to your 1^st Stone site you would ban them or delete anything they say.

From: Stephen Black [mailto:stephen@firststone.org]
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:37 PM
To: stablesministries@gays4jesus.com
Subject: Contact The Stables Ministries for any reason

You do not have permission to post my testimony on your web site.  Please remove it.

Sincerely in the King's Love and Service,

Stephen Black

Executive Director

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sprinkle888 You cannot find no scripture in God's holy bible that he condone homosexuality

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Comment on your video: Gay Pentecostal Faith Healing Ministries You cannot find no scripture in God's holy bible that he condone homosexuality, I don't even need to argue with you on this. Sir you need to read what will take place on judgment day when the wicked and commandment brakers and those that deny God. Revelation 20: 11 to 15 The White Throne Judgement. Satan is the ruler of this world, so as that said gays are having there time now; but not in the after life when the Church is caught up, gays will not be caught up in the rapture. 8:31 Gay Pentecostal Faith Healing Ministries Get ready for a number of Gay pentecostal Faith healing Ministries to become noticed one the NEWS

Homophobe ate ant about checking out a person they want to condemn. Even if the homophobe truly believes gay is sin, they still can take a little time to see something about who they are condemning. Here on YouTube I have lots of videos and info that links to my website including my 24/7 non-stop running of my TV programs.

Quickly the homophobe, i.e. sprinkle888, will see I have been in the Assemblies of God since 1974 and my ministries statement of faith is the same as theirs. So I been around a while and have done more than my share of homework on this issue.

Concerning the Bible there are 14 verses http://gays4jesus.com/14verses.html used (probably just 4 regularly, the rest almost n ever) and so this should be easy to study. Paul was in Corinth when he wrote Romans. I recently preach at the temple of Aphrodite on top of Acrocorinth which is in view of Ancient Corinth where I preached at the Temple of Apollo. Paul saw every day the la where many believed had over 1000 temple prostitutes. Missing in Paul’s day is records of Paul seeing gays. So the question is how do you get “male temple prostitutes” to mean gays are condemned. Str8s went to the temples ritual orgies and included were Hebrews and this was Paul’s writings.

Furthermore there is history of Christian writers using arsenokoites 56 times including and since Paul for the next 500 plus years. Greeks used arsenokoites 76 times almost trough the 15^th century 76 times. Never any hint in their writings to gays. These are not lost writings and really not that hard to find. It is not wishful thinking. It means Christians did not condemn gays until the 13^th or so. Documentation exists showing the Vatican invented the anti-gay doctrine to purge leaders out of office that did not agree with the influential Catholic elite. If you think the Bible condemns gays explain how it does. Bible marriage was mostly a business deal between family heads and not the choice of the couple getting married, so for sure we are not getting married per Bible these days. Fact is marriage as we know it today id direct from pagan fertility worship rites of the 12^th century.

Concerning Rev. 20 this book explains there is only TWO risings of the dead. One is one it says don’t be a part of because it is eternity away from Christ. The other are those that kept the faith but died and so are risen before Jesus returns. The Church wants a pre-trib Rapture and so the dead in Christ must rise first. Rev. 20 explain there are only two risings. A pre-trib rising means a 3^rd rising of the dead which the Bible told us there are only TWO.

Rev. 11:18 tells us the rising of the living believers takes place. The TWO WITNESSES had been killed already. This in itself forces the Rapture to be at least 1260 days after the trib started. We don’t know the time of the Rapture, but the Bible says we will know the season. The closer we get the closer that narrows down. When the Trib begins we can know it is at least 1260 days away. But 1335 days are mention for this same time setting. This fits that 1260 days pass and 75 days remain and so anytime in that 75 days can be the Rapture. Here is another clue, it is the when antichrist declares himself gad he will also initiate the start of the mark. At best 75 days could wipe out people that cannot buy food and is time to run out of what food one has. Those saving up for such a time has backgrounds that may not include John 3:16.

The TWO Witnesses are killed 3 days later they are seen to rise by everyone. The Bible says there is someone that needs to die and is the last one that needs to die before the rising of the dead. This is not saying other won’t continue to be killed (billion still left and so killing never stops) but there is a last to die person to get the rising of the dead going. I am nearly positive it is the TWO Witnesses that needs to be that last to die hence the rising of the dead begins. Now, there is not an instant Rapture because the dead rose, the dead were just to rise first. Now, after those 1260 days of the TWO Witnesses’ ministry a time that was prepared to get Christians dressed in their wedding gowns that current do not fit because we are so filthy and got false doctrines and do not love one another and cultures and customs and traditions that make our wedding gowns not fit. 1260 days will get us to be able to fit into our wedding gown. Jesus is not going to wait to get married to us, zap were in Heaven getting married, Jesus waited plenty long enough so we need out wedding gowns on or as the Bible say you will be tossed out in to utter darkness where there will be gnashing of teeth.

Now Christian keep being killed the rest of the trib, most has to be new borns or those that did not get ready or never quite accepted Jesus and now know it was all true. If they die/are killed they simply sleep for 1000 years and then the book of life opened and so they get their spirit body then. Non-believers will all be killed and they also sleep for 1000 years but to a different fate. Two people escape the 1000 year sleep and that is antichrist and the false prophet. They are tossed into the lake of fire then and there. There new job is 1000 years of training to teach the billions that will join them then.

Keep in mind when you tell a Christian they aren’t saved that is pretty dangerous ground because you deny the WORK of Christ on the Cross. It is an open and shut case when comparing str8 Christians to gay Christians. There is really no differences (except gays has to put up with homophobes like yourself). Salvation means you believe God that Jesus is his Son (this is possible because the Holy Spirit drew you to this conclusion and you accepted it). Believing in your heart then telling someone it the all you need. Homophobes especially want to add their concept of repentance. They think gay must become str8 and that proves they repented. Or they must abstain from sex altogether and some homophobes accept that as proof enough. Homophobe have no ability to step back and see what they ask. You are a happy str8 and love str8 sex and in yourself believe there is no threat to you needing to stop str8 sex with your spouse. But that is what you push onto gays. You want me who has been married for 22 years to my gay lover to stop sex and go out find a woman to start having sex with or to just never have sex again. Even the Bible tells us that a married couple should not stop sex for very long so they can pray and fast including no sex with spouse. The Bible says satan will tempt you and you may go have sex with someone else. Yet it is easy for you to tell gays to stop.

If a gay claim Jesus then that gay person will have a WALK with Christ. Walking with Jesus leaves a trail that can be detected. Could be many miracles, answered prayer, always a 180 degree turn from how they were living. Life changes takes place, you stopped doing many things. (note: stopping because it is from God in your heart is one thing, but too often others tell you to stop something because they think its sin and it might not be). What I am saying is I have since 1974 walked with Jesus that means I have a testimony in Christ. I have had 3 major instant dramatic physical healings as I specifically ask in Jesus name to be healed and I saw and felt that healing dramatically. Once I visually saw the holy Spirit pour from the north and at my location fell on me and I was healed amazingly. I can go on for days non-stop about my walk with Jesus. I preached TV programs in over 10 countries and at least one person in all the countries has seen my TV program. I run my programs 24/7 online seen on my website. Doing TV programs since 1985 I came across many things needing Jesus and so if you think Jesus is not with me when I have to face people like you and many times worse then what is the matter with you that you cannot discern Jesus? I offer challenges to any church where I can give account of my faith in Jesus Christ. I also know beyond doubt is a setting of a Church Jesus will be with me showing homophobes he is with me.

You are right gays are having their time now. Homophobes had their time for 700 years. In 1967 God began restoring gays in the Body of Christ in the Catholic Church (Dignity) in 1968 God started in the Protestant Church (Metropolitan Community Church) In 1969 God started with secular gays, (Stonewall). In recent times with Pentecostal gays. I was the first in in Christian chat rooms. I saw no other gays of secular or Christian in any Christian chat room for years. I had my screen name gays4jesus in many chat rooms and not a day went by that the room had to deal with me an openly gay Pentecostal and TV preacher. I do not want to boast but guarantee you no matter how you search I was the first and I still go to these rooms, yet I do not do like you I do not condemn them I tell them what I know about the verses and the fact in life also about the Last Days. Can you keep a sound mind with over 1 million homophobes condemning many extremely. How would you like being told you are not saved.

There are several verses very much about gays in the Bible. As I said earlier marriage is not like today back then. Wives were property and slaves by the Greek words of Bible verses and the Greek language. People did not just say “my wife” The Greek words or the Bible and Hebrew in the OT (similar) talked in the wording of slave/property in the spoken sentence. Using this you can find gay married couples. They went through the legal Jewish customs of families arranging marriages. For gay sons it was the same type arrangements. I Bible days and in any ancient days there was no social security yet so most gays also married for children. Sons and daughters were their social security. History proves many past famous secular proven gay leaders were married also to wom(e)n for retire security. History shows them never engage for love and sex with the wives except to have offspring. History shows these men were very much in love and had sex with their male lover.

The Bible does show evil gay person, though not really gay they were bisexual. Absalom was extremely attractive in which he purposely used for gaining power and support to take control of Jerusalem. He didn’t mind if it were female or male so long as it got him more support.

http://www.gaychristian101.com/Romans-1.html is a good website to actually see much documentation on biblical facts showing gay is not sin.

Obedience is to Believe God

Hi John  from ronv11
So You think the seven different versions of 1Corinthians 6:9 are "satan counterfeits" The seven (7) different versions specifically states that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. I can only go by what I read in the bible, nothing else. Even in the King James Bible 1 Corinthians 7:2 states

Gays4jesus: You still are not listening I said all modern versions come from the corrupt manuscripts of Westcott and Hort. I wish you would read what I wrote you. Now if you are going to just read a verse from any Bible and just assume it is as you understand the words you read then you certainly are not reading the Bible. The Bible was written originally in the that 1st hundred years after Jesus Rose. In the 2^nd century two sets of manuscripts were copied in the Latin Vulgate. One set was the corrupt version the other was direct from the original. The corrupt version was then lost/hidden or otherwise not used until the 15^th century when it was found and was made the official Catholic Bible source. The Received Text as it is called, was in constant use until King James authorized the KJV and because the printing press was now available became cheap and accessible for everyone to buy. This helped in cause the other good Bible of the day to fade out of use. Today you don’t find them on books shelves unless you hunt for collectors or places that may sell them.

In the 1880s Westcortt and Hort took the corrupt version and translated into a strange Greek rendering then translated it to English and their influence (Westcott being on the board to revise the Bible) got their entire version to be the Official Bible of the Church of England.

Now Westcott and Hort were not just Bible translators they also (especially Westcott) into the occult and started the Ghost Club. Membership in this club has become a mandatory requirement for anyone wanting to be in the elite of the coming one world government (antichrist’s kingdom). Modern version have 50,000 to 80,000 corruptions. These are not simple corruptions, but are specific mainly taking Christ out of Jesus. Set side by side with the KJV you will quickly see that the KJV seems an over kill on giving Jesus the Glory and being the Son of God and the Christ. It also goes to extremes on emphasizing Jesus love for us and his promises to us. Modern version have enough of it to deceive most Christians. Modern version is a major deception satan is using which would be useless if Israel was not a nation yet. Modern version can easily save people, but only after Israel became a nation was it possible for satan to begin adding other great deceptions. As we draw close to the tribulation deceptions will begin to convince many Christian to doubt the Bible. When they begin to look at their modern version it is very compatible with satans deceptions that will ultimately confirm that man over there is Jesus after all.

However, any version will do in studying the Bible since study should demand search original meanings. So in spite of the corrupt Bible you have you still can search and find the ancient Hebrew words and the ancient Greek words. It is important to use the ancient word meaning. If a modern Hebrew speaker went to the 1^st century they would be confused with the many words that has evolved in the past 2000 years. That is why the Bible was written 2000 years ago instead of today. In Jesus’ day was the most perfect time to get God’s message in writing for the New Testament and likewise the Old Testament centuries earlier. For you to say you just read 7 different versions that has a verse that may have the same word in your case “homosexual” does not make it the word that Paul wrote down 2000 years ago. Catamite and sodomite are not Greek words for gays. Modern versions often don’t even use these two words. Many modern version give one Greek word 2 unrelated meanings. They say homosexuals then say shrine prostitutes. The Greek word says as it were “shrine prostitutes” the word homosexual is just an addition the translator put in not from the Greek manuscript.

Again Paul saw fertility temples everywhere he turned in the place he wrote the words that today are used to condemn gays. Missing from you is the historic gays Paul saw that he was condemning according to you. You can search all you want and you will not find that Paul was talking about the local gays. To talk about the local gays Paul would have the historical fact we can find that he saw gays. The FACT is he saw fertility temples.

What you read already tells me that is your total source. Now tell me about your pastor’s sermons. How does he teach you? Does he read a verse then tell you what he think it means? Does he give you tons of sources to back up what he thinks it is saying. Does he show you original Greek. Why do you accept his outside the Bible research that teaches you what ancient meaning meant. But comes to gays all you do is tell me your read it in 7 versions.

The scariest part here is you have no clue about modern versions and so will soon see that man over there must Be Jesus after all. Tell me is it easy for you to know a counterfeit $20 bill? We have a brown marker at work, we draw a line on a bill, if that line changes it is a counterfeit bill. We also have something like a black light to hold a driver’s license over to see if it is a counterfeit license. Tell me how will you know that man over there is not Jesus if you do not know how to reveal the counterfeit in him? Today most church are already supporting anti-christ organization. I toured a Buddhist temple that was the state of the art a push of a button can make 8,000 more seats in the sanctuary area. The monk took me personally to explain their mission. They were working to join every religion for common prayer and good deeds throughout the world. Christianity was part of their efforts. They had headquarters in many major cities in the world. It was amazing how God was revealing to me a specific organization fulfilling prophecy about getting a one world religion. There are at least 5 major such other organizations doing the same things. The effort for a one world religion is well established, yet I am sure you do not have an idea what is going on after all you read it in 7 versions right?

Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

Gays4jesus: King David and son Solomon had many hundreds of wives, all the patriarch also had many wives. The 1^st 1000 years of Christianity it was Christian legal to have concubines this was not made illegal till the 11^th century. Marriage today is base in fertility religion. There is no resemblance to today’s marriage and Jesus day marriages. Most marriages in Jesus day were for family profit. Meaning how does each family of each spouse make the most out of arranging the marriage. You just did not meet your spouse at Sunday school or a dance and a school days sweet heart. Today 60% of marriage end in divorce. It is also easy to paste a verse for instance what did the apostles says?

10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.

I would also suggest to you don’t fornicate, but don’t tell a gay couple like myself who has been with his partner for 22 years to avoid fornication. You accusations are disgustingly showing your lack of understanding of the gay community. You must think all gays are in a free fall orgy together. Real life shows str8 are the kings and queens of sexual immorality so clean your own house before you go to another’s house to clean.

You call me ( and others that don't agree with you) "a typical homophobe" The reason you stated I am a homophobe is
" I call you a homophone ( you misspelled the word, homophobe or thats a new word homophone) because in your 3 messages you have yet to explain how you get gays in the bible"
As I told you the dictionary ( dictionary .com ) defines a homophobe as :
ho·mo·phobe
[hoh-muh-fohb] Show IPA
--noun
a person who fears or hates homosexuals  and homosexuality.
I do not fear or hate homosexuals. I do not have any bad feelings for gay people. It looks like it is easy for you to label others, that do not agree with you, but it is wrong! I would hope you know as a minister that labeling people is just wrong! You owe me an apology.

Gays4jesus: You do fear and do hate gays because you won’t explain how you get gays in the Bible. Just saying you read it tells me you don’t know what you are reading and flat out won’t spend a minute to find the ancient meanings of the Bible words so you would be able to show me how you got gays into a Bible word.

Nothing to do with disagreeing with you. Keep in mind I have been preaching on TV since 1985, before that I ran a multi-line BBS thing started my website. I been around, you just don’t care about what I know so you simple flat out reject what I say then you paste a verse and think you proved I was on thin ice like you are some expert on Bible words. You have a lot of fear because tons of info is available about gays. http://www.gaychristian101.com/Romans-1.html is a very good site to learn a lot about ancient time concerning the Bible and gays. I bet you have not gone to other links I gave you and you won’t go top this link. If you gave me a link and I did not go to it I would be still in 100% compliance with going to any link you gave me because I have gone to 1000s of similar links against gays. I have talk at length with 1000s maybe 10s of 1000s of homophobes from all countries and most major well know ministers. At least 1 million homophobes have expressed something to me since 1974. So I honestly can say I been to any link you can give me. I know with no reservations you are a homophobe. Tell me why you pastes a dictionary’s definition but you won’t give me the definition of Bible words you think means gay. Homophobes is yes the fear of gays, and what a lot of fear you have by not showing me how you get gays into the Bible.
If you noticed I have refrained from calling you names. I find it surprising that you have used words in your emails to me such as "stupidity" "stupid" and " "homophobe"
I think this speaks to your ideas, you label 7 different bible versions satan counterfeits and then resort to name calling. You do all of this to justify your own agenda.

Gays4jesus: homophobe is not name calling. Name calling to telling a saved person to get saved. You tell gays they are fornicators. Just because so far you don’t do like so many other is because I have maybe been too easy on you. Normally homophobes soon revert to horrible graphic sex acts depictions. Your statements says gays are going to hell with no hope in God. I say this about your statements because you expect gays to stop or change to str8. That is like telling you to stop being str8 and start gay sex. You just aren’t. Of course a very common thing about those that very strongly condemn gays they often are gays themselves. So are you a gay in the closet fighting God about your orientation?

I did not make up Westcott and Hort they are real people and you can get About 1,130,000 results (0.16 seconds) in a Google search on them. Is this what you call non-homophobe behavior when a gay tells you, you are reading counterfeit Bibles and gives you the names of the counterfeiters? Sounds pretty homophobic to me. You need to reject everything a gay says no matter how true it is.
I tell you all of this because I feel what you are doing is wrong. I can see you are an intelligent person, and unless you are fooling me, I think you care about people. How great it must be to travel the world and see the things you have seen. I don't know when the end time will come, but i can tell you todays world that I live in seem a mess, wars, false teaching, perversions, storms, new deadly viruses, sickness, lies and liars abound

Gays4jesus: Not interested in how you feel about me, I am interested in that you begin to realize you don’t get a free ride to Heaven. You must KEEP your faith till the end. 1260 days are set in stone to shake out of you every false doctrine, customs, traditions, and more. Huge numbers will turn from God. You are not wearing your wedding gown and it will take 1260 days for you to finally fit into it and so ne ready for the Rapture. 3 billion plus will die in your sight and you might be one of them which would be great if you still kept you faith. This time is about to pounce on the Church and most have no clue so it acts as a wake up call will you be caught sleeping just because a gay told you this?
I am no better, i too am a sinner, but I do have hope, the bible tells me that if I repent of my sins and believe in Jesus I will be saved.

Gays4jesus: Again, the repent I completely think you don’t know what it means. It like you are saying Jesus worked in vain. Sorry, But Jesus’ work on the Cross should have more meaning to your than to make you need to tell me if the Bible tells you to repent, frustrating it would be so nice to hear someone really loving Jesus than putting so much into works you can’t accomplish. If you imply to me I have not repented then all the more proof you are such a homophobe thinking only evidence about a gays salvation is them turning str8.
I have done both, I hope you and your readers do the same

Gays4jesus: Place you hope in Jesus not others, others will fail you and yet they are as saved as you are. Race for the finish line. It is you and Jesus. Not you me and Jesus or you your spouse and Jesus or you and others and Jesus (though we minister to them so the Holy Spirit can draw them to Christ of help them grow in Christ) Your job is you. Jesus died for you. Jesus’ hope is you. Believe he is the Son of God till the end is OBEDIANCE to God. Obedience is not the law of God or man but to believe God.
Ron

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Romv11 YouTube comment 1Cor. 6:9

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This is not right its a sign of the end times. How someone can have their head screwed on so wrong is beyond me. Most people do not hate gays, but it is sin.Being gay You are using your bodys in an unnatural way.

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romv11 made several comment on my video above which I responded to earlier. I wanted romv11 to explain how romv11 got gays into the Bible. romv11 does this below:

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Re: you are a typical homophobe ......more Hi John I am going to need some time to respond to all you wrote .  interesting how you start out your videos You start out saying....."gay is not sin" This is what i think every time I hear that If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousnes. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. God help save pity and defend us Ron ( more cut and paste) Sent to: gays4jesus

gays4jesus: Yes, at the start of all my TV from the first one to now I say “gay is not sin”. I have been doing this since my 1^st program in 1985. This is because GAY IS NOT SIN PERIOD. Saying “gay is not sin” is not saying gays have no sin. Often homophobe believe because gay might say gay is not sin that to them means they are saying gays do not sin.

Killing someone is sin, but because you never killed anyone does not you sin. I ask you why are you using 1 John 1:8 or 1 John 1:10 is not a way for you to defend you claim that gay is sin. The issue is not that gays are sinners just like all str8s, the issue is are any of the verses you use talking about gays and that is a resounding NO!

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	ronv11	So again explain how you get gays in the Bible Hi John you wrote " I would be very happy to go over verse by verse anything you think says gay is sin." can you please explain these 7 different versions of 1Corinthians 6 : 9 it seems you are on thin ice, in fact all the ice is gone, and you need to be saved . God help us all ( time is short repent while you can) Ron gays4jesus: Today there are maybe more than 100 versions. This issue is not about gays BUT ABOUT Bible versions, (all modern versions flat out are satan counterfeits. This different topic can be discussed if you like, but a simple study of Westcott and Hort can give you some basics. Thin ice? I want you to explain how arsenokoites means gays. FACT this word was used 76 times in a period from Paul to the 15th century give or take a few years depending on your sources. By Christian writers it was used 56 times up to around 400-500 AD. This is not guessing and the full writing are available to read. No hint to gays were in Christian writings. Paul’s word though he modified it a little still is based on the Hebrew word qadesh. kaw-dashe'); from 6942; a (quasi) sacred person, i.e. (technically) a (male) devotee (by prostitution) to licentious idolatry: KJV—sodomite When Paul wrote Romans he did so in the site of the Temple of Aphrodite. I was there a month ago in ancient Corinth and I did hike up the Acrocorinth hill to its top where that temple is located. Many sources say it had over 1000 temple prostitutes. Ancient Corinth had a huge temple of Apollo that could be seen anywhere in the city. I did a TV program from that temple too. All Paul could see as he wrote Romans from Corinth were fertility temples. Athens was the same story. I even preached from the spot Paul did from the statue of the unknown god. The Acropolis was about a 10 minute walk and I had it in my background as I did my program. Paul saw fertility temples everywhere when he wrote. Again I beg you tell me how he got gays from those temples? You can research those times and find gays, there were at least 9 Greek words for gays, Paul use the word for male temple prostitute. Even many modern version acknowledge this, but usually add a word that was not in the Bible. I 1850 at a USA clergy convention they discussed 1 Cor 6:9 and at that time it was taught masterbators would not inherit, they agreed heaven would be empty so who can they insert to take that place and gays were already being condemned for some 600 years so who would care. That is when 1 Cor 6:9 and 1 Tim 1:10 was added to the gay is sin false doctrine. 1. New KIng James Version gays4jesus: (Very very corrupt and is not from the KJV) Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 2. New Living Translation Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, 3. New International Version Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 4. English Standard Version Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality 5. New American Standard Bible Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 6. Young's Literal Translation have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites, ( sexual intercourse involving anal or oral copulation.) 7. Textus Receptus (Greek) ἢ οὐκ οἴδατε ὅτι ἄδικοι βασιλείαν θεοῦ οὐ κληρονομήσουσιν μὴ πλανᾶσθε οὔτε πόρνοι οὔτε εἰδωλολάτραι οὔτε μοιχοὶ οὔτε μαλακοὶ οὔτε ἀρσενοκοῖτα (google translate ) oidate the essential injustice that kingdom of God lest my klironomήsousin deceived neither fornicators, nor adulterers, nor eidololάtrai not soft homosexual Sent to: gays4jesus

gays4jesus: 733 arsenokoites (ar-sen-ok-oy'-tace); from 730 and 2845; a sodomite: KJV-- abuser of (that defileself) with mankind.

I tend to prefer Strongs, generally widely accepted by Assemblies of God, though in the past couple of decades they have been turn to the NIV which is probably the most corrupt version. http://gays4jesus.com/HebrewGrammer.html is a link to show you the breakdown of the Hebrew and Greek on the verses used against gays. At least look at it. So many homophobes just reject anything if a gay person sent it , said it or referred to it. Homophobe only present studies done by other homophobes.

How can you even remotely be able to explain a verse if you are using Bible with 50,000 to 80,000 corruptions depending on the modern version you use. Westcott and Hort were not just Bible translators that got their entire translation to be the Official Church of England’s Bible (15^th century this corrupt version became the Catholics official Bible) Those insisting to use satan counterfeit Bibles should at least use the verse to search out the original Hebrew/Greek and not rely on modern dictionaries. As for Google it depends on your key word search and what of the 10s of 1000s of pages you select to use. Google I love because you can get to originals in anything. The Bible tells us in the endtimes we will have access to about all knowledge which we do, depends again on keyword searching. Bias is bias, but research has no limits except what the researcher sets. Knowledge and truth require seeking. You don’t get it with just a few minutes on Google.

http://gays4jesus.com/Books.htm has some books by Sylvia Pennington. I had her on my TV program a few times back in the 80s. She was the first to have best sellers on the gay issues of that day. She work in maybe the most well know ex-gay ministry ad she is an Assemblies of God woman. This was when you could count modern versions more easily. She actually put in her book most of the 39 or so versions for 1 Cor 6:9 in which none agreed to the verses meaning. Today there are who knows how many modern versions, but all coming from the same source “Westcott and Hort”.

600 of the 700 years since the creation of the anti-gay doctrine 1 Cor 6:9 was not in the doctrine. The 12^th century was time that so many changes came to the Church not only the anti-gay doctrine but how we get married today. Marriage as we know it is direct from pagan marriage custom base in their fertility gods. So many pagan became Christians then these custom came over to Christianity and evolved into what is assume a Christians heritage.

The actual meaning of 1 Cor 6:9 is catamite and sodomite which means expensive call boy or young man meaning not street prostitute, but a person that you needed to go through channel to hire and they would in public appear to be lovers of the wealthy clients. This was a well-known status symbols of wealthy Corinthian men.

1 Cor 6:9 has had so many facelifts of the years and have been taught so many ways. In King James day (he is a well known transvestite and now known was gay) the verse meant “weak and spineless”. Other times one was a boy the other a ped. For some time in the USA it was masturbators hence the change to be taught gays won’t inherit. In 1946 arsenokoites and malakos were removed and a non Bible word homosexual inserted. There is a word that is almost pronounce the same as arsenokoites but spelled defiantly and does not have the same meaning but that would could mean gays, but it was not used by Paul.

Are you getting the idea of what I mean when I say explain how you get gays into the Bible? If I can spend this much writing and give you barely the tip of the iceberg of information, why can’t you and other homophobes present why they say gay is sin? I know you can paste a verse in like I said, but again all you do is say “can you please explain these 7 different versions of 1Corinthians 6 : 9 it seems you are on thin ice, in fact all the ice is gone” . Why can’t you explain word meaning and real gays in Jesus or Paul’s day. Here is a site that goes into deep detail about real gays in Jesus day http://www.well.com/user/aquarius/thesis.htm

Now since you have actually came back to me thinking you can paste some verses as though you are such the knowledgeable person can you again come back with something Like how I am going the extra mile with you showing gay is not sin. If you so believe you ought to be able to show mean ancient material in a little more detail than a modern version pasting of a verse.

Maybe the worst thing you said was saying I need to accept Jesus and repent. You concept of repenting is be str8, repentance is a subject that is so abused and misused to heap guilt on the innocent that the topic of repenting as a discussion point needs to be a separate issue as am quite passionate on the topic and the misuse of the word repent.

Concerning my salvation I had already told you much about my walk with Jesus. You said “, and you need to be saved .” I have some of my testimony online http://gays4jesus.com/Testimony.htm The horrors of homophobes is they so blatantly reject testimonies of gays. I am 65 been a Pentecostal Christian since Jan. 1974, been on TV since 1985 don’t you think I might have a walk with Jesus to talk about? I have had 3 major instant miraculous physical healings as well, beside lots of minor healing and 1000s of specifically answered prayers in the detail prayed for. I have nightly vision dreams and Jesus talks with me and much more. But do you care. Homophobes say it is satan not God can you image (of course you can that is what you think too) What do you suppose God thinks when you tell someone they are not saved and they are? Read my challenge http://gays4jesus.com/challenge.htm get your church to invite me let’s check it out is God with me or not. I am willing to stand up for my faith are you willing to stand up for your homophobic belief? Inviting me to your church http://gays4jesus.com/InviteMe2.htm is the process.

Now try to be decent and really give me some real info to your homophobic belief. thanks

Please Pray For Me

Jesus is with you 24/7 the poem below sums it up when we have troubled times and think Jesus is not with us. Whenever I get into times when I think Jesus should be helping in a serious situation that I can hardly manage and is at my darkest moments I tell myself 2000 years of Christian history has gone by. For a fact whatever I have gone through can’t compare with other Christians. Christians though plenty of testimony of wonderful works of deliverance and miraculous intervention by Jesus to our rescue history tells us it is far more common that we get killed or go through pain and suffering seemingly without help from God and our prayers seem unanswered.

It is by FAITH we believe not acts of God. Praise God when he acts in our behalf. It is our faith we maintain till the end through any circumstances that befall us.

King James Bible
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

Faith is your COMPASS you can’t get lost. You are not off path crooked as it may seem.

Yes I will pray for you: God here Jalanten’s prayers, show him ways to renew his relationship with you, heal his physical needs. I Jesus NAME I pray.

Again it is faith not magic. Miracles comes some times out of the blue, but often because you seek them and ask for them. Who can understand why some that don’t really seem to deserve the constant help they appear to receive from the Lord while others very faithful and sincere go for long periods in a desert place with no hint there is an end to it.

The promise is Jesus will never forsake you, so this means he is there all the time. Jesus is amazing, God has cattle on a thousand hills and he is willing.

Below is pretty good explanation, (I don’t know his other messages, but in this topic he explains it well)

Healing is Jesus

By The Right Revd Graham Dow Matthew, chapter 8 verses 1 - 15

It is Jesus who heals. The heart of the Church’s healing ministry is, through the Holy Spirit, bringing together Jesus with the person whose needs we want to pray for. It is not a matter of techniques: healing is Jesus. The two stories at the beginning of St Matthew chapter 8 shed light on how we may approach this. There are two principles: Please go to http://www.resource-arm.net/articles/healing_is_jesus.html to read about the principles. I did not want to copy the article in full.

You can at this moment do what you want. Jesus is not a rule book of directions that must be followed to the letter to get something. Jesus is in a personal relationship with you as though in the world there are only you and him. This can give Jesus a problem because you can slip things by him sort of catching him off guard. Best way to explain this is as you are talking to him sneak a joke in (not one that is a “did you hear the one about….) You actually can cause Jesus to react in a bursting out of laughter. WOW talk about getting first hand evidence he is with you and can respond to your conversation is when you make someone laugh. Hard to not laugh at a good “funny”. Jesus has emotions that can tell you he is there with you and you can tap into them in your daily relationship with him.

Of course telling Jesus how great he is going beyond the chanting “praise the Lord” (though supper to repeat this praise a lot) often in church it gets lost in a ritual and loses its personalness.

My suggestions here is just saying you have a personal relationship and we knowing how to be around others, family, co-workers, friends, we should be able to be around Jesus and have personal interactions. 2000 years of Christianity tells us mostly we live day to day like anyone else with rare occasions of a camp meeting experience with Jesus. You can up the ante by participating in the personal relationship Christian claim to have with Jesus. Jesus is willing.

Magic won’t renew your spirituality or heal your physical needs. Actively participating in your faith will break down many barriers. When you don’t feel like it can’t stop a break through because in faith in your darkness you can turn on the light with your thoughts. You can command the elements, You can change world events from your closet. You can change your neighbor. You can do these things and see enough to know it can’t be coincidence. He doesn’t mind you telling him you love him too. He is not Just God Creator of all things, but is YOUR GOD.

God Bless you

John

“One night I had a dream–
I dreamed I was walking along the beach with the Lord
and across the sky flashed scenes from my life.
For each scene I noticed two sets of footprints,
one belonged to me and the other to the Lord.
When the last scene of my life flashed before me,
I looked back at the footprints in the sand.
I noticed that many times along the path of my life,
there was only one set of footprints.
I also noticed that it happened at the very lowest
and saddest times in my life.
This really bothered me and I questioned the Lord about it.
“Lord, you said that once I decided to follow you,
you would walk with me all the way,
but I have noticed that during the most troublesome times in my life
there is only one set of footprints.
“I don’t understand why in times when I needed you most,
you should leave me.”
The Lord replied, “My precious, precious child,
I love you and I would never, never leave you
during your times of trial and suffering.
“When you saw only one set of footprints,
it was then that I carried you.”

From: Jal
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:20 AM
To: gaysforjesus647@gmail.com
Subject: Please Pray For Me

I just came upon your web site I had been praying and was seeking just anything to help me during this time. I am a 55 year old HIV positive and thankfully healthy and undetectable male with a strong immune system and on meds. 

I have been having non-related physical problems, the most recent a mild heart attack about 8 or 9 months ago and over the last few weeks some gall bladder problems with painful symptoms.  While I have these physical problems the real issue is having lost my life's compass and being separated from the love and presence of God, His Son and Holy Spirit.

I long to have that heart that longs and thirsts for Him. I am in the driest lonesome desert without His Spirit, Grace or Love. Please pray for me that I am renewed spiritually and physically.

Thank you for being out here.  May God Bless You. > john

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Cannot be Gay and Christian per Rusticxaine

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Rusticxaine ‘s comment to my above video |  Send Message to this person.

Connot be Gay and Christian? Not sure i have read this in the bible.. However i do believe that Jesus (god manifested in the flesh) Died So the ALL maybe saved. And whom ever should except Jesus as their savior shall be saved. None on earth not ever Jesus while on earth judge one person. not gay not whore . NOT ANYONE. For one person to judge another is tryin to take the place of God. Do you really think you want to try and do that? Repent and ask God to Humble you.

Well this person is not even sure it’s in the Bible. Here is what is in the Bible: John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. And 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Does Rusticxaine believe all gays thinks Jesus was not manifested in the flesh? Or that all gays don’t believe John 3:16 or Romans 9:10? This person says don’t judge while saying “Cannot be Gay and Christian” This person seem their only choice of two words is “gay and whore”. There is NO “maybe saved” it is 100% if you believe you WILL be saved. The word REPENT is not a play thing. At Salvation a new born believer did a 180 degree turn in their life. This is extremely visible as the days go by. It can be dramatic or a slow process, but always visible. Years later one person cannot tell another person they are un-repented on a fling with no investigation of their past years with Jesus. I have many online sites. One is a 24/7 non-stop running of my TV programs over the past decades. Beside this YouTube site you responded to I have FaceBook, a webpage, a blog and many other sites. Plenty to see what I have been doping with my life since I accepted Jesus in Jan. 1974. When I accepted Jesus I began attending Assemblies of God. This means there is 3 decades plus now of history of how other Christians and Pastors reacted to me before knowing I was gay and after knowing I was gay. I had nearly 10 years before I became a weekly TV preacher so I have a solid period of how people think of me as someone they see in church every time it meets. I never missed a service for at least 13 years and more. There is a lot to this testimony. Miracles and answered prayers abound in my life and I have been blessed in many ways. I can spend days detailing these things. I am at Jesus’s feet daily bowing before him. You can’t wish because someone is gay they do not have a close relationship with him. You can’t say you have a better one than I. You are not even sure if something is in the Bible or not. Well I am sure gay is not sin I have diligently sort out every way to learn about the Bible and the facts of its history and it language as many other site also show in their research. Gay Christians back up their mouths concerning is it sin or not. There is a wealth of info to support gay is not sin and NO info that it is sin. Homophobes can only generalize and do no more than quote a verse and state see it’s in the Bible. Never do you find homophobes backing up what they believe the Bible says with information in history , language, and any source for that matter. Like your statement “gays cannot be gay and Christian” . Those of you that read this please also comment to Rusticxaine as well and my site.