Thursday, December 13, 2007

Pentecostal and Gay


I accepted Jesus January 27Th, 1974 at 9:45 pm. Three years before I met my lover who was Assemblies of God from the Navajo Indian reservation. He had shown no signs he was Christians during these 3 years. When I accepted Jesus he suggested the Assemblies of God after we had many interesting reservation style camp meetings where the Holy Spirit moved dramatically to say the least. We went to the reservation about five times a year. So he suggested the Assemblies of God back in the city we live in at that time. He joined the choir and we never missed a service for over 12 years including workshops and special guest speaking often lasting a couple weeks many nights in a row. It was not long before I found out abut this tongues thing and I already knew I was hooked on Jesus as strongly as I was an atheist before accepting him. I believed beyond doubt there was no God so that was quite a change for me to start believing. So one day I asked Jesus to give me the tongues thing. I was not just casually mentioning I would like it. I sought it diligently for hours. Long story short I got it. This was about 4 months after I accepted Jesus. (This is far more complex than this short story implies and stretches 3 years before I actually accepted Jesus)

Almost from day one of my born again experience pastors at about any church I would go to not knowing me from Adam would call me up to the alter purposely saying God had a word for me. Now a days I say about 200 pastors did this over 10 years. I may be way under the actual number.

From the start God gave me Ezekiel chapter 34. This would nearly every time I open any Bible would open. I finally decided it was because it opened so many times in on book that it was physically shaped to open there. But that did not account for the new Bible it once was nor any Bible I pick up of any other random opening of the Word of God. So amongst several other conditions this chapter became my ministries' theme.

During the first 10 years I had 3 major physical healings, I go into this in other places on my website. Answered prayer was common and the more detailed I asked the more precise it was answered.

I had a job (for a period of five years) that required me taking different groups of about 20 people each group of a different Christian faith to Sunday school and church service of their churches. So in this 5 year period I got a lot of quality time in many different non-Pentecostal churches. I even went to a few Catholic churches during this time.

With that above experience I found that being Pentecostal it made no difference where you go to worship and the Bible was read and preached and no matter how otherwise "dead" that church was I was having "camp meeting" (camp meeting is old term for revival filled with the Holy Spirit miracles and general neat worshipping and praising the Lord). It was strange to look around and see people sitting like they could not even hear the wonderful things of the Lord being taught by their pastor and that pastor was appearing to mouth the words but no life from him in them or like he heard himself preaching, but there I was forcing myself to keep my hands down and trying to hide tears of joys and being choked up from the wonderful message.

Now of course these five years going to many denominations did not take away from my regular attendance in my church (Assemblies of God). Usually taking people to church was a morning thing so evening and Wednesdays and other days were not interfered with by my job.

Every church I went to every pastors somehow got attracted to me to talk and the conversation would be like he saw God and Jesus in me and felt very comfortable talking to me saying these things. Often pastors would even confide to me their problems in ministering and the trouble they have with staff and assistant pastors and boards trying to fight him. I thought it interesting though hey wonderful someone thinks God is with you and feels like they can talk to you about serious things they are going through even it is is just to have a ear to listen to them. BUT here I am GAY living with my LOVER. Everyone, I never met any Christian for the first 15 years of my acceptance of Jesus as my Lord and Savior that did not say they see Jesus in me or see God is with me.

Well I knew this was not missed placed feelings or thoughts because I truly Love Jesus and was 100% committed to him in every way. I was not a fake or a hypocrite I was the Christian they thought I was (except for one small thing, they did not know I was gay in those years).

Funny though the moment Christians (pastors) found out or knew I was gay all they could see is the word gay and nothing more. I am exactly the same person doing the same things believing the same way, but the word gay made them not look past that word. Good part is because people can decide how they will think based on a word does not change the baptism in the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit did not leave me when I went on TV as an openly gay Pentecostal TV preacher every week. All that changed was if I go to church now many recognized me as being on TV. It is split, some condemn other still think good of me and the word gay does not make them do anything except apologize for those Christians that I call homophobes.

There is an amazing thing that most Christians miss and that is the operation of the member of the Body of Christ they casted out and said I have no need of you. This happened about 700 years ago as the Church cast out the gay member of the body of Christ. Since that time the function gays have in the Church, like any part of your body has a function to help make your whole body work well, was stopped. The Church is now at a very broken state and lost what this thing called love is in the Bible. They also misunderstand what hate is. But never the less gays never left the church and though restricted in what they can do still do many things of their place in the church. Soon though gays will be fully functioning in the Church. Another topic.

The Church generally bans gays once they learn they are gay. Soon this feature the Church enjoys will come to an end.

So, Pentecostal and gay what is it? Well first it is simple if you are a str8 Pentecostal you got most of it down and so really not a lot of explaining to do. It is Just gays also gt baptised in the Holy Spirit and there is nothing you can do about it. It is just a fact. Facts can not be washed under the table.

I can speak for myself and that is at any moment I can speak in tongues. There are associated gifts as part of tongues. And other main gift that at least one or more is often part of the package you get accordingly as God divides as he will. You can seek additional gifts in the Spirit.

Something comes with the territory of being Pentecostal. It presents a problem that confuses many in many ways. Pentecostalism is sort of a Pandora's box as is said. Meaning you NOW are deal with spirit and flesh together. You are not in your spirit body yet so here you are in your flesh and NOW in touch with your spirit and spirits. Most of the time is it not a problem and life goes on and little interference is noticed or just not recognized at all.

Your spirit is not JESUS,GOD, OR HOLT SPIRIT. There are also satan, demons and unknowns. There are fears no excuse to say FEARS are there makes FEARS not there. Surround yourself with people of like minds and you will have it the easiest but grow the slowest in Christ Jesus.

Your spirit is YOU and so you cannot say GOD said if it was YOUR spirit saying it. YOUR spirit does want to praise God and Jesus and WORSHIP him. You cannot tell your spirit what to do or not do. YOU are allowing willing yourself into operation in the HOLY SPIRIT. This is the danger that you do not recognized or discern the spirits. It should be easy if it is God your got the Bible to confirm it. If you hear God tell you an airplane will come down, then in the Bible you can look up some verse and see if God tells people this about a coming disaster. No planes then so you got to make sure you are on the right track in the Bible.

If you say in the spirit gay is sin, then you have to go to the Bible and see if God said that and you cannot find that though to you it is one of the 14 verses that are used for this and for you your fleshly mind is satisfied so for you God said it. This does not make it God is saying it. Part of being baptized in the Holy Spirit is the difficulty to overcome your doctrines and custom and traditions. Your flesh interfere with your spirit a lot and your spirit is not God's spirit so your spirit is not all truth just loses truth.

Then demons and satan are spirits they pretend to be in sheep's clothing. Test the spirits means so just that. If it is of God it is of the Bible. If its demon or satan you can cast it away and or tel it it is not of God or the Bible. Demons can be easier than your flesh and your own spirit because they are liars and counterfeiters and you should be sort of tuned in to figuring out it ain;t you or God. Does not mean they will go away, they got rules and some of them say they don't got to go away and some says they do got to go away. Know the rules so when they stay around you understand the rule for it and it is not against some other rule. maybe i will go into more detail sometime on this side of this issue.

Then we have the unknown. If it were just demons/satan (fallen angels or satan oriented what ever you want to call them) and/or just God (and his angels or host or what ever is God's crew) it would be less complicated. Be it man made satan made deceptions or real phenomena there is an unknown factor. "Aliens" what ever just that there is this unknown neither God not satan oriented as to be in their category. This unknown even if it is God's or satan's camp it is out in left field and so it is a source that is effecting Pentecostalism.

Type in effect is other religions, occultism, mysticism etc. in short I say operate illegally using the Holy Spirit as power source for manifestations that make their process work. I think there could be a physical biological mechanism in out bodies that allows us to FEEL God. Space shuttle launch drag racing ball games are things that it is fury can push the GOD button in us making us have a flooding of the love of GOD and tears flood like rain. Hey it ain't God. But it sure can FEEL like it and this can interfere with Pentecostals that are not aware of environment's effect on them. I go into this in other areas of my sites.

Again most of the time Christians just are not going to run into much more than a church service praise session with singing in the spirit and maybe a tongues and interpretation with a tossed in healing. It is those that want more and seek a deeper relationship with Jesus and desire to know him, part of know Jesus is knowing the Holy Spirit as a person. He won't talk about himself , but Will show himself to those the seek him diligently.

Benefits of Pentecostal is a 24/7/365 feeling Jesus presence as though he is there with you all the time. God's word always fresh and alive. You can make intercessory prayer for others, this helps when it seems like yo just can't pray for someone or find words. The Holy Spirit will pray for you. Pentecostal means many more opportunities to see miracles in a direct fashion not a coincidence of events so you call them a miracle, but things that flat out directly zap pola right in front of you happens.

Jesus seems closer in troubled times or when your are rejected or falling. Visions can be frequent, For me I cannot be asleep more than a second and I am in a vision. Be nice to remember the details better, but wow absolutely amazing dream visions (though for our day often they concern the coming tribulation and the time just before it and I can't really say much good about those events.

Abuse and strictness and hypocrisy often is enhanced by being Pentecostal as the false sense that you must be good to be so close to Jesus or the power you have in operating in the Holy Spirit makes you think yourself better than others or your greed power hungry nature is puffed up. Nothing is special about you that helped you be Pentecostal. So often Pentecostal are even the worse yet it is no wonder as a guess God did not have Assemblies of God type churches back in the 5th to 15th centuries. We read so much bad at the hands of the non-Pentecostals what would it be like if Pentecostal were the ruling class Christians? Never thought about it that way. It is human nature to sin and getting saved does not erase your nature to sin and disobey God. You may think you a re not disobeying, but others know it a mile away just like you know their a mile away.

We as they say are not perfect just forgiven. Let just try to live the best we can each day (best not being translated to find the fattest sin list book to obey).

Gays are people many accept Jesus and many are Pentecostal. Pentecostals often are reserved to last. Today str8 Pentecostals created international Christian TV and are often behind most huge Christian rallies and out making noise for God not all is bad but false doctrine traditions and conditionings are at play and so many can't break from those things. Catholic and protestant gays begin later 1960s Pentecostal gays had to stay their Pentecostal closet. Pentecostal gay are NOW becoming more heard as many are struggling to stand up and make a difference and the time must be right as God is more allowing this to happen meaning God is an active participators in urging Pentecostal gays to go above and beyond the norm to start the break though to public ministry.

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