Tuesday, December 11, 2007

The 14 Verses in the False anti-gay Doctrine

"The Stables Ministries"
"Gay is not sin"
The Anti-gay Church's700 year old Doctrine in a nut shell!

1. Gen 2:22 Steve is was in the DNA (God did not make Adam and Steve)

RIB 6763 tsela` (tsay-law');
or (feminine) tsal` ah (tsal-aw'); from 6760; a rib (as curved), literally (of the body) or figuratively (of a door, i.e. leaf); hence, a side, literally (of a person) or figuratively (of an object or the sky, i.e. quarter); architecturally, a (especially floor or ceiling) timber or plank (single or collective, i.e. a flooring):
KJV-- beam, board, chamber, corner, leaf, plank, rib, side (chamber).
6760 tsala` (tsaw-lah');
a primitive root: probably to curve; used only as denominative from 6763, to limp (as if one-sided):
KJV-- halt.

Key above is the word chamber is used at least 11 times in the Bible with the same word RIB in Gen 2:22. The is a Hebrew word used in the Bible that if used in Gen 2:22 absolutely word mean RIB "bone". A long time TBN host Hebrew scholar said his intensive research found the best modern English word to be "CELL from that RIB" This is not that easy to find so don't expect to blink and you will find this. It is up to you how deep you want to study Hebrew meanings to words. If this verse is chosen to condemn gays a great deal of expaining is needed because in the GARDEN the world was very different and so many things come into question.

2. Gen 19:4-5 gang rape, murder, victims would have been angels

This verse tells you a lot of people are invollved and that it is not just men. Wickedly means death to the angels was the intention. No one can survice this word. Later Lots daughters raped their dad.

3. Judg 19:22 rarely used gang rape, murder, but victim was opposite sex.

Similar story as Gen. but they did accept the offer of a daughter and did rape her to death.

4. Deut 23:17 don't be a male temple prostitute
5. IKing 14:24 rarely used male temple prostitute
6. IKing 15:12 rarely used male temple prostitute
7. IKing 22:46 rarely used male temple prostitute
8. II Ki 23:7 rarely used male temple prostitute

6945 qadesh (kaw-dashe'); from 6942; a (quasi) sacred person, i.e. (technically) a (male) devotee (by prostitution) to licentious idolatry: KJV-- sodomite, unclean.6942 qadash (kaw-dash'); a primitive root; to be (causatively, make, pronounce or observe as) clean (ceremonially or morally): KJV-- appoint, bid, consecrate, dedicate, defile, hallow, (be, keep) holy (-er, place), keep, prepare, proclaim, purify, sanctify (-ied oneself,), X wholly. 6943 Qedesh (keh'-desh); from 6942; a sanctum; Kedesh, the name of four places in Palestine: KJV-- Kedesh.This is the key word in 7 of the 14 verses people use to say gay is sin.

Tons of history on fertility temples This should not be in the anti-gay doctrine because of the obvious and well document actual word meaning and actual temples frequently by Hebrew men.

9. Lev 18:22 acts done in worshipping other gods, not comparing loving, caring , long term relationships, woman is a likely adulteress
10. Lev 20:13 acts done in worshipping other gods, not comparing loving, caring , long term relationships, woman is a likely adulteress

"v'es zaachaar lo tishkav mishk'vey ishaw to'eyvaa hi."

"And man not you-lie-with lyings with-woman detestable that."
"And man not you-lie-with ones-who-lie with-woman detestable that."
"And man not you-lie-with in-beds of-woman detestable that."

In short above is a very brief showing that the man alreaady slep with women and loved it. http://s91536390.onlinehome.us/gaysforjesus/HebrewGrammer.htm this link is the detailed version. To summerize these 2 verses: "practicing hebrew str8 men" went to male temple prostitues for ritual sex to the fertility gods as Moses was leading them to the Promise Land.

11. Rom 1:27-28 Should be 18-32. adults turned from God, God changed them, results visible evil behavior

12. 1 Cor 6:9 call boy and temple prostitute, 1950 original Greek removed, meant masturbation before 1850
13. 1 Tim 1:10 temple prostitute

Generally a carbon copy of the Hebrew word for sododmite above. see http://www.gaychristian101.com/index.html for deetails on these verses and much more on all these verses.

14. Jude 1:7 general sexual immorally of Sodom and Gomorrah with no hint of sexual orientation

Refers to no sexual orientation just general immorality of the 2 cities.

4205 pornos (por'-nos); from pernemi (to sell; akin to the base of 4097); a (male) prostitute (as venal), i.e. (by analogy) a debauchee (libertine): KJV-- fornicator, whoremonger.

The male prostitute is nearly 100% chance of being a str8 man selling his body to women as was plenty common in those days. Rare was the gay prostitute, this was just not the situation in those days that a man needed to pay a man for sex (other than male temple prostitutes)


Truthbear said...

If you were Pentecostal as you say that you are, you would not be pro homosexual...

Does abomination mean anything to you?

To God, it means something that He utterly abhors...Being queer is something that God hates...You can twist God's word around like a pretzel, but the bottom line is your lifestyle is in error unto the word of God...

You might even get your head into the New Testament....Homosexuality contradicts God's word in the New as well as the Old Testament...


gays4jesus said...

Asusual Homophobes just cannot bare to give information. What you see in truthbear is nothing to present what truthbear thinks is truth about gays. The statement "if I were Pentecostal" is mute. I have been a Pentecostal for 35 years with all the signs you would see with any Pentecostal and on top of that 35 years in the Assemblies of God with 1000s witnessing I am Pentecostal. Making a statement that a person is not Pentecostal simply put is really dumb. I can at any moment in any setting operate in Pentecostalism. It is like say a person that is a blonde is not a blonde because you hate blondes. No matter how much you hate blondes will not change that blonde's hair color.

To say God hates somethig you need the bible. you can not simple state God hates something because you hate it. So as the origianl post says there are 14 verses. My question to truthbear is why can't you go verse by verse and show me and others how you get gay into a verse.

If I am twisting the verses then Truthbear or any other please untwist it for me. I cannot figure out why it is so hard for something so simple to be explained. Either a word means gays or it means male temple prostitutes. I know it is utterly useless to ask homophpbes to explain how they get gays into the Bible because if they tried they would soon discover they can't find gays in the verses they say condemns gays.

Happy for your comments even from homophobes. Just maybe finally will can get a homophpbes to actually use Bible (not just quote a verse then make a statement gay is sin)and show us how a word in the Bible means gay or means a behavior actual gays behave. Really discusting that the only thing homophpbes can do is tell gays they are male temple prostitutes to fertility gods and goddesses.