cajunmart
Re:Re: Re:Re: Re: sodomites
thank you for you letter concerning homosexual apologetics, I do apologise for taking so long to respond but I am quite busy and I had a significant amount of spam to trawl through in your previous letter. It seems evident to me that your method lies in twisting the scripture through a method of using favourable Hebrew translations only used or taken seriously by a certain Christian homosexual minority (if there can really be such a thing) in which you still achieve a very low standard on addressing the core issues.
But I think I do understand what a mess you are in, through whatever problems that have happened in your life, you somehow got involved in homosexuality, you met this other homosexual that you have been with for many years, at some point and through confusion, thought that you loved him, although your love within friendship became confused with your lust, which left you with a blurred line of moral behaviour. you either claimed to be a Christian before or became a Christian since which left you with an almighty dilemma. Either you leave this relationship which God does not approve of, or you lose your faith, but you cannot do this can you? You are too comfortable in your relationship, and you cannot give up your belief, so you set to work on trying to merge the two together, and here we have it: You really need to look at the bigger picture rather than hiding behind exploited chinks that you have so eloquently displayed, you cannot fail to see what the bible says when you take an objective view of scripture. So put away your preconceptions and lets see what the bible really says:
650 MILLION GAYS TODAY. HOMOPHOBES HATE TO USE THIS AS A USEFUL TOOL TO FIND OUT ABOUT HOW GAYS ARE GAY. HEBREW AND GREEK ARE DONE DEALS , TWISTING IS A COMMON STATEMENT FROM HOMOPHOBES. THEY ASSUME GAYS TWIST THE WORD, BUT THE HOMOPHOBE IS IMMUNED TO NEEDING TO ANSWER WHAT THE WORD MEANS THIS MAKES IT EASY TO JUST STATE “ITS IN THE BIBLE”.
HOMOPHOBES HAVE ONLY ONE CORSE AND THAT IS TO CALL GAYS LIARS WITH OUT CARING FOR A SECOND GAYS ARE REAL PEOPLE AND HAVE PLENTY OF INTEGRITY. AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY GAYS DO NOT BECOME PILLARS OF FAMILIES AND LEADERS IN BUSINESS AND EMPLOYER’S BEST EMPLOYEES AND MAINTAINING THE HEALTH CARE FIELD BY LYING.
CORE ISSUES ARE THE 14 VERSES, OTHER VERSES ARE A METHOD HOMOPHOBE ATTEMPT TO INCREASE THE EVIL ONTO GAYS WITH OUT CAUSE TO ATTEMPT TO SHOW GAY IS SIN IN THE FIRST PLACE.
WHY WHY WHY DO HOMOPHOBE LOVE TO ASSUME WHAT THE LIFE OF A GAY PERSON IS? Previously I DID GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE LIVES OF GAYS. BUT AGAIN TO DETAIL WHAT HAPPENS TO GAYS AS THEY GROW IS NOT MAGIC. YES SOME PEOPLE IN THE WORLD HAVE VERY MISERABLE LIVES. STRAIGHTS ARE FILLING THERAPIST’S OFFICES AROUND THE WORLD. SO USING MESSED UP LIVES IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO DETERMINED SIN FOR A WHOLE GROUP. I HAD A GOOD CHILDHOOD. LOVED CAMPING, GOT GOOD GRADES, REALLY HAD NO IDEA ABOUT MISERABLE LIVES SOME PEOPLE HAD. MY DAYS WERE FULL OF EXCITING THINGS TO DO AND I HAD PLENTY OF FRIENDS TO DO THEM WITH. I ENJOYED HUNTING RABBIT WITH MY COUSIN. MY WEEKENDS IN HIGH SCHOOL WERE BOOKED WITH FUN THINGS AND PLACES TO GO. I GOT A CAR AND PUT OVER100,000 MILES ON IT IN HIGH SCHOOL ALONE. YEAH IN 12TH ME AND MY BUDDY (HE WAS ST8) PARTIED EVERY WEEKEND AND SAW SO MUCH OF CALIFORNIA AND NEVADA THAT YEAR. BABY BOOMERS HAD IT MADE IN THE 60S THE MUSIC GREAT (I WAS AN ATHEIST BACK THEN) I DID GO TO SCHOOL DANCES, BUT GIRL WERE JUST NOT MY CUP A TEA THOUGH PRESSURE WAS TO DATE AND I DID A FEW TIMES JUST NOT PRODUCE THE WILDNESS I SAW OTHER STR8 GUYS GETTING OVER GIRLS SO OF COURSE I WONDER WHY THEY FELT THAT SORT OF WEIRD. I JUST KNEW SOME GUYS I SAW AROUND I REALLY HOPED TO BECOME FRIENDS WITH THEM, BUT NEVER KNEW IT WAS SEXUAL ATTRACTION AS IN THOSE DAY THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT GAYS ANYWHERE TO BE SEEN OR HEARD ABOUT.
STORIES ABOUND ABOUT STR8 BOYS TAKING TICKETS TO BE IN LINE FOR SEX WITH SOME GIRL AND THE JOKE BEING WHO WOULD WANT TO BE THE LAST IN LINE. AS FAR AS LOOKING DEEPLY INTO SEXUAL IMMORALITY I’D HAVE TO SAY STR8S JUST ALWAYS KING AND QUEENS OF THAT DEPARTMENT WHETHER YOUNG OR OLD. I DID HAVE ENOUGH OF AN IDEA I WAS DIFFERENT FROM 7TH GRADE ON AND THAT IT WAS I WAS PROBABLY GAY EVEN IF I DID NOT REALLY COMPLETELY KNOW WHAT THAT REALLY WAS UNTIL GETTING ON TO LATE HIGH SCHOOL.
I GOT DRAFTED AND SO JOINED THE AIR FORCE AND AGAIN HAD GREAT FRIENDS AND NEVER KNEW THIS STUFF CALLED PAIN AND SUFFERING. (NOT SAYING I DID NOT HAVE TROUBLES HEH HEH FUN CAN BRING MUCH TROUBLE TOO) I IN OTHER PLACES GO INTO THAT. GENERALLY, HERE I AM DEALING WITH THIS cajunmart THINKING THAT GAYS ARE MESSED UP.
LONG STORY SHORT LOOKING BACK I ALWAYS NOTICED I WAS SO BLESSED AND COULD SEE GOD WATCHING OVER ME EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. EVEN WHEN BY RIGHTS I SHOULD HAVE GONE THE WAY OF MANY (I.E. DRINKING, PARTYING, EVEN A FEW TIME WITH POT) GENERALLY, I ALREADY CHOSEN NOT TO DRUG OR SMOKE AND DRINKING NEVER BECAME ANY ISSUE AND IN THE MILITARY IT WAS PARTY TIME ALL THE TIME. THE USA IS SIMPLE PROTECTED BY A BUNCH OF DRUNKS WHETHER YOU WANT TO ACCEPT THAT OR NOT. REGULARLY WE HAD TO GO TO ORIENTATION ABOUT SEX WITH THE LOCAL PROSTITUTES AND THE PROCEDURES TO KEEP FROM CATCHING STDs. YOU SEE STR8S JUST HAVE TO HAVE SEX WITH WOMEN AND HAVING A WIFE OR GIRL FRIEND WAS NO ISSUE. (I WAS 4 YEARS IN THE USAF) I BRING UP THE STR8 SEXUAL IMMORALITY BECAUSE IT SEEMS IT IS A SMALL ISSUE FOR HOMOPHOBES TO ADDRESS THE SHORT COMING OF BEING STR8. STR8 SHOULD BE SIN BASED ON HOW HOMOPHOBES CONDEMN GAYS.
I CAN REMEMBER THINGS BACK TO WHEN I WAS 3 AND I CAN SEE SO VERY OFTEN BLESSINGS IN MY LIFE. AT 5 I DID NOT GET GOD’S HELP ON A TASK I WAS DOING TO PUT A LEASH ON A TURTLE SO IT TOLD GOD I WOULD FROM THEN ON BELIEVE IN SCIENCE. EVEN SO ALL THE WAY TILL I ACCEPTED JESUS AT 27 GOD BLESSED ME. SURE I DID NOT GET LOTS OF THINGS I WANTED, BUT THINGS THAT OTHERS WENT THROUGH I CAN NOT TELL YOU MUCH ABOUT THEIR KIND OF SUFFERING AND PAINS. I WAS IN A HORRIBLE CAR CRASH AND DID NOT GET A SCRATCH. I HAD A HUGE INTEREST IN LEARNING ABOUT HOW THINGS HAPPEN AND HISTORY OF THINGS AND THE UNIVERSE AND EARTH AND MORE. I AS I SAID WAS AN ATHEIST SO NO RELIGION COULD CONVINCE ME OF ANYTHING RELATING TO GODS AND NO MASTERS COULD TELL ME THEY ARE SUPERIOR TO ANYONE AS EVERYONE IS WHAT THEY MAKE OF THEMSELVES. AND SO I WAS BLESS IN KNOWLEDGE OF MOST EVERYTHING, NOT AS TO DETAILS OF SCIENTIST IN A LAB SPENDING YEARS, BUT I LOVED THEIR FINDINGS, SO MANY EXPERTS AND THEY DID THE WORK AND IT WAS EASY TO FIND OUT THINGS AND SO I ENJOYED THOSE YEARS AS AN ATHEIST BECAUSE I WAS UNFETTERED BY ANYONE OR RELIGION CONCERNING EVERYTHING. I CAN LOOK AT RELIGIONS AND EVERYTHING AND ANALYZE THEM BASED ON A WORLD OF INFO I WAS GAINING. I AM NOT AFRAID OF TRUTH AND SO EVEN AS MUCH AS BEG HOMOPHOBES TO SHOW ME HOW THEY GET GAYS INTO THE BIBLE, BUT THEY Can’t BECAUSE IT IS NOT THERE.
AGAIN I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT FOR THE LIFE OF ME I CANNOT FIGURE OUT HOW HOMOPHOBES ASSUME GAYS SOMEHOW GOT MESSED UP AND SOMEHOW FOUND THEMSELVES SUCKED INTO A GAY LIFE STYLE. YES 7 BILLION PEOPLE ALMOST AND YOU CAN FIND A TON OF EXPERIENCES OF HOW PEOPLE COME OUT TO THEIR GAYNESS AFTER ALL FOR 700 YEARS CHRISTIANS HAVING BANNED GAYS AS AN EXISTENCE OR GOING STR8 TO HELL. BUT AS FOR MY LIFE. THIS IS WHAT HE TOLD ME ABOVE “I do understand what a mess you are in, through whatever problems that have happened in your life, you somehow got involved in homosexuality, you met this other homosexual that you have been with for many years, at some point and through confusion, thought that you loved him, although your love within friendship became confused with your lust, which left you with a blurred line of moral behavior. AGAIN WHAT MESS? HOW DO STR8 PEOPLE MEET AND DATE? HEY IT IS THE SAME. IF YOU ARE GAY YOU WILL GO TO PLACES THAT SHOULD HAVE SOME GAYS. IF YOU ARE REALLY PICKY YOU WILL TRY TO FIND SOMEWHERE TO MEET THE TYPES YOU LIKE. MANY MANY STR8S MEN TOLD ME COVER THE WOMAN’S HEAD AND NOTHING MORE IS NEEDED SEX DOES NOT CARE. WELL FOR ME I CARE A LOT, A PERSON IS A PERSON AND THE HEAD IS VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE EQUATION. IT IS TR8S THAT OFTEN JUST NEED A PLACE TO PUT PART “A” SO THEY JUST NEED A PART “B” NO OTHER PART OF THE BODY IS IMPORTANT TO MANY STR8S. IT IS SO DISGUSTING HOMOPHOBES CANNOT SEE THEIR HETS EVIL CONCERNING SEX, BUT THEY ARE QUICK TO PUT ALL GAYS INTO THE CLASS OF HET’S SEXUAL IMMORALITY.
IN THE USAF TRAVELING TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES AND SPENDING LOTS OF TIME I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT MY SELF I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT. I FOUND I WAS VERY ATTRACTED TO ASIAN GUYS. BETTER YET THEY LOVED ME TO NO END. IN THAILAND I HAD ABOUT 200 FRIENDS. I WAS AMAZED I WAS SUCH A POPULAR GUY. ALWAYS THOUGHT AFTERWARD IF I WAS OUT OF THE CLOSET THEN I COULD HAVE BEEN STR8LIKE BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE HAD SEX WITH A LOT OF THEM THEY WERE SO VERY CUTE, REALLY SEEING HOW STR8 GUYS GOT ALL THIS HOT AND HORNY OVER GIRLS AHHH BUT IF ANYONE KNEW I WAS GAY I WOULD GET BOOTED OUT OF THE SERVICE SO HEY STAYED A VIRGIN ALL THROUGH MY TIME IN THE SERVICE. BUT I TELL YOU HAVING A FULL YEAR SURROUNDED BY ATTRACTIVE ASIAN GUYS WAS PARADISE FOR ME TO SAY THE LEAST. NOW IF A STR8 TOLD A SIMILAR STORY YOU WOULD ASSOCIATE WITH THEM EVEN LOOK AT YOUR PICTURE WHO IS THATS YOUR DAUGHTER? MEANS YOU GOT A WIFE MEANS YOU STILL GET THE HOTS FOR A CUTE CHICK AND I BET YOU TELL SOME OF YOUR FRIEND HOW HOT SOME GIRL IS ALMOST LIKE YOUR WIFE DOES NOT EXIST. WAIT A MINUTE HOMOPHOBES GET ALL RIGHTEOUS AND SAY THEY NEVER DO THAT, SORRY ABOUT YOUR EXCEPTION.
WELL I GOT OUT OF THE SERVICE ( NOW 22) SO ONE THING I KNEW FROM THE GET GO I AM NOT SINGLE MATERIAL PERIOD. THIS CRAZY THING YOU KNOW CALLED LOVE. YOU KNOW LIVING WITH SOMEONE MAKING LOVE COMPANIONSHIP AND ALL THE THINGS HOMOPHOBES CALL A MARRIAGE EXCEPT BOTH ARE GUYS. MY PROBLEMS WERE I WAS NOT THAT MUCH INTO WHITE GUYS SO UP TO NOW I ONLY HAD ISSUES WITH THE NO ONE IS ALL THAT ATTRACTIVE. WELL NOW I WAS STILL NOT QUITE SURE ASIANS WERE MY CUP OF TEA UNTIL I DECIDED I WILL GO TO PLACES TO MEET OTHER GAYS. I CALL THIS SIMILAR TO BORN AGAIN EXPERIENCE I DON’T CARE IF THAT MAKES YOU CRINGE THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM, THIS IS NOT TO YOU IT IS TO ALL THE OTHER READERS, REMEMBER I TOLD YOU YOU ARE MY TOOL I USE YOU AND TOSS YOU OUT SINCE YOU ALREADY WILL NOT LISTEN BECAUSE YOU NEED A HORRIBLE DIASTER TO STRICT YOU BEFORE YOU CAN STAND BACK AND TAKE A LOT AND SEE THE TRUTH.
I MADE A CALL TO A GAY CLUB THEY GAVE GOOD ADVICE BUT TO GO TO THEIR CLUB IT COST BOO COO MOOO BUT HE STILL TALKED WITH ME. I FELT SO VERY GOOD BECAUSE FOR THE 1ST TIME IN MY LIFE I WAS DOING SOMETHING ABOUT WHO I AM AND I DID IT AND NOW STEP TWO WAS TO LOCATE A PLACE TO GO. HE TOLD ME THERE ARE MANY PLACE GAYS CAN MEET AND SO I FOUND A PAPER THAT HAD A NAME OF A DANCE BAR WITHIN DRIVING RANGE. I WENT WAY EARLY NOT KNOWING BAR SCENE STARTS AT 10 – 11 PM SO THERE I WAS IN AN ALMOST EMPTY BAR. (STABLES WHERE THE NAME OF MY MINISTRY COMES FROM “JESUS WAS BORN IN A STABLES”) WHAT I SAW EARLY WAS A MIRACLE FROM GOD PERIOD. NEVER COULD THERE HAVE BEEN A BETTER WAY TO SHOW ME EVEN TOUGH I STILL WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN THAT GAY WAS NOT EVIL OR WRONG OR SICK OR SIN. 4 FAIRLY ATTRACTIVE GUYS WERE TOGETHER AT THE COUNTER BEHAVING CAREFREE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH EACH OTHER (NOT DOING SEX IF YOU HAVE A DIRTY MIND AND SO HAVE TO THINK IT MUST BE SEXUAL) I KNEW THAT WAS ME, THEY WERE SO NATURAL WITH EACH OTHER. SITTING ONE EACH OTHER’S LAP LAUGHING HAVING FUN. I JUST SAT THERE LIKE I DID NOT SEEING THEM BUT THINKING THIS IS AMAZING. I HAD BEEN TO A COUPLE GAY BARS IN THE MILITARY WITH STR8 FRIENDS JUST FOR GO SEE HAVE FUN PARTY, THOSE STR8 FRIEND NEVER HAD ANY BAD THOUGHTS TOWARDS THE GAYS, BUT THOUGH I WAS SURE I WAS GAY BUT NO ONE THERE LOOK LIKE I WANTED TO BE WITH THEM IT WAS ALSO SLOT MACHINES AND LATE SO CROWDED TOO AND WAS JUST A PARTY NIGHT OUT WITH FELLOW GIs.
ANYWAY, FINALLY PEOPLE BEGAN TO ARRIVE THIS NIGHT IN THE STABLES, AS TIME WENT ON I SAW 2 GUYS I LIKED, BUT THOUGHT I NEEDED TO GO HOME (SAME OLD SHY THING I AM NOT THE GO ASK KIND OF PERSON) I DROVE A COUPLE MILES THEN DECIDED TO RETURN. THE 2 I LIKED WERE STILL THERE, ONE ASKED ME TO DANCE AHHHHHHHH. SOMETIMES I WONDER WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE TODAY IF I SAID YES. AFRAID TO DANCE I SAD I DON’T KNOW HOW.
NOW SOME BLACK GUY NOTICED I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AMERICAN INDIAN GUY A LOT AND THAT HE WAS LOOKING BACK. I CALL HIM AN ANGEL (THE BLACK GUY) BECAUSE HE STARTED DANCING WITH THE INDIAN GUY, WHICH MADE ME THINK OH WELL LOST MY CHANCE. THEN THE BLACK GUY CAME OVER TO ME AND ASK ME TO DANCE SAME THING I CAN’T. THIS WAS THE WRONG ANSWER FOR HIM AND HE TALKED ME INTO DANCING, HE THEN SAID TO ME HE NOTICED I WAS LOOKING AT THE INDIAN GUY AND SAID IT WAS MUTUAL FOR THE INDIAN. SCARY BUT HE WAS INSISTENT TO INTRODUCE US. I THOUGHT THAT INDIAN GUY WAS SO HOT, RESULTS WE DANCED MANY SONGS TOGETHER AND RESULTS WERE WE WERE TOGETHER FOR 10 YEARS. I LOVED HIM SO MUCH. WE WERE A PERFECT PAIR AND I LEARNED LOTS ABOUT INDIAN RESERVATION AND WAS ACCEPTED BY HIS FAMILY AND EVEN SLEPT IN A HOGAN.
LOTS HAPPENED I CONTINUED TO STUDY AND RESEARCH HISTORY HUMAN CONDITIONS; I WORKED IN THE CAREGIVER SYSTEM FOR 5 YEARS AS WELL. BLESSING NEVER CEASED. BEGAN TO FIND OUT THERE IS MUCH MORE TO LIFE THAN PHYSICS THAT THERE WAS A REAL OTHER SIDE AS IT WERE SPIRITUAL. (NOT ANYTHING RELATED TO RELIGIONS OR FOLLOWING ANYONE, I WAS AN OBSERVER OR THINGS, I CAN’T EXPLAIN THIS PART WELL, LATER I KNOW IT WAS GOD SHOWING THINGS FOR MY LATER MINISTRY. SO THAT WHEN I TALK I GOT THE BACKGROUND OF IT LOCKED UP IN MY HEAD FROM THE SEEING OF IT AND THE READING AND FIRST HAND AND MUCH MORE ON SO MANY THINGS. PASTORS ANOINTED OF GOD SPEAKING WITH THE WORD OF KNOWLEDGE AND PROPHESYING CALL IT A RESERVOIR OF KNOWLEDGE GOD BUILT UP INSIDE ME TO GIVE OTHERS. NOTE OFTEN AS MANY AS 200 DIFFERENT ASSEMBLIES OF GOD PASTORS CALLED ME UP TO GIVE THIS FROM GOD TO ME.
WHAT WENT WRONG, HOW DOES DIVORCE HAPPEN? WELL SHALL WE GO INTO STR8 DIVORCE AND THE PAIN AND SUFFERING AND TURMOIL AND CHANGE IT BRINGS THEM OR GO AS YOU AS A HOMOPHOBE WOULD SAY GOD PUNISHED YOU FOR BEING GAY. WELL IN MY CASE THE LOVE DIED AND THAT WAS NOT FUN TO EXPERIENCE. HE GOT ME TO A PLACE WHERE I ACCEPTED JESUS (AMAZING STORY IN ITSELF) I REALLY GOT HOOKED ON JESUS LONG STORY WITH A GREAT DEAL OF PRE-WORK BY JESUS PERSONALLY IN MY LIFE. WELL MAYBE HE WAS JEALOUS OF JESUS, HE GOT ME TO GO TO ASSEMBLIES OF GOD AND HE JOINED THE CHOIR AND IT SEEMED SO PERFECT. BUT SECRETS APPEARED, HE HAD 3 KIDS AND THEN IT TURNED OUT HE WAS STILL MARRIED (HIS WIFE ANOTHER LONG STORY ABOUT HOW ALL THAT CAME TO BE) THIS TOOK A TOLL, HE DIVORCED HER FINALLY SHE SAID GOD WOULD NEVER GIVE US THE KIDS OH YEAH ONE DAY SHE CAME GAVE US THE KIDS. SHE ALSO GOT PREGNANT 3 MORE FROM AS MANY MEN AND WANTED ALIMONY FOR ALL 6 KIDS. WELL THAT DID NOT WORK OUT FOR HER THE COURT GAVE HER NOTHING BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT A GOOD MOM AND KEPT GETTING PREGNANT WITH OTHERS. WE STILL SENT MONEY FOR HIS KIDS UNTIL SHE GAVE US THEM.
ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS THIS TOOK A TOLL ON ME AND I WENT INTO DEPRESSION. CHRISTIANS GOES INTO DEPRESSION, JAN CROUCH LOVES TO TELL HER PERIOD OF DEPRESSION. COMING OUT OF THAT I MOVED NORTH ENDING THAT RELATIONSHIP. I SEEN EVEN DARKER EPISODES PRAISING JESUS EVEN IN MY DARKEST MOMENTS. EVEN THOUGH ALL SEEMED HOPELESS JESUS ROSE ME TO THE TOP AND GAVE ME AUTHORITY EVEN THOUGH I BEGGED GOD NOT TO DO THAT. I KNEW GOD WOULD DO IT BECAUSE IT IS A GOD BEHAVIOR THING. HE RAISES THE LEAST INTO THE HIGHEST NEARLY OVER NIGHT. I DID FINALLY SAY GOD THY WILL BE DONE. AND SO I BECAME SPOKES PERSON INTERMEDIATOR BETWEEN FACTIONS. THIS FURTHER LED TO FREE ACCESS TO A WORLD OF INFO USUALLY NOT FOR PUBLIC EYES. SO I GOT TONS OF FIRST HAND SO I CAN QUOTE STATICS QUITE ACCURATELY ON CERTAIN TOPICS THAT OFTEN APPLY BECAUSE HOMOPHOBES WANT TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY AND HEAP ON MORE AND MORE FALSE ACCUSATION ONTO GAYS.
BEFORE THIS DARK PERIOD BEGAN GOD SENT A PROPHET TO ME TO ASK AM I WILLING TO LEARN WHAT FEAR IS AS GOD WANTS TO TEACH ME SOME THINGS WHICH REQUIRE THAT I LEARN FEAR. I KNEW SAYING YES WAS NOT GOING TO BE A WALK IN THE PARK, BUT I MEANT IT WHEN I COMMITTED MY SELF TO THE LORD THAT NIGHT I ACCEPTED HIM. I CAN SPEAK WITHOUT HESITATION ON MANY TOPICS AND I KNOW NOT MANY PEOPLE GET SUCH ACCESS TO THE KNOWLEDGE I GOT. I LOVE IT BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT I KNOW AND THOSE THAT THINK GAY IS SIN WILL NOT ACCEPT INFO THAT CAN KEEP THEM FAITHFUL TO THE END. MANY WILL FALL AWAY SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY JUST WILL NOT ACCEPT WHAT A GAY PERSON SAYS.
ANYWAY, OVER SEVERAL YEARS I MET A COUPLE 3 YEAR RELATIONSHIPS. ONE MOVED AWAY BECAUSE GRADUATED COLLEGE AND GOT JOB IN ANOTHER STATE AND I COULD NOT GO (HE WAS CATHOLIC AND HAD THOSE BUILT IN PROBLEMS, NOT A REASON FOR NOT GOING WITH HIM, BUT MY COMMITMENTS WERE TO STAY PUT) ANOTHER WAS A BUDDHIST WHICH GAVE ME SO INSIGHT TO A WHOLE COMMUNITY OUT THERE AND LEARNED A VALUABLE LESSON WHY OTHER RELIGIONS WORK. THEY CERTAINLY LIKED ME, BUT IT REALLY DID NOT MATTER WHO OR WHERE I WAS PEOPLE JUST LIKE ME AND FEEL I HAVE A GIFT FROM GOD TO BEST EXPLAIN IT. HEARTBREAKER, TO LEAVE HIM BUT ANOTHER STORY.
I WAS NIGHTLY IN GAY DANCE BARS FOR 8 YEARS (CERTAINLY MOSTLY A WALL FLOWER ORDAIN BY GOD) I WATCHED GAYS THESE 8 YEARS MEET DATE DISAPPEAR OUT OF THE BAR SCENE TO LIVE A MARRIED LIFE WITH EACH OTHER. LONG STORY OF THE 8 YEAR HOLY SPIRIT SCHOOL IN BARS. I LED ONE PERSON TO JESUS ONE NIGHT, HIS FATHER WAS A PENTECOSTAL PASTOR AND HAD ABOUT 25 – 30 PENTECOSTAL PASTORS MEET IN HIS HOUSE WEEKLY FOR BIBLE AND PRAISE WORSHIP AND STUDY. HAVING LED HIS SON TO CHRIST HE INVITED ME TO THOSE BIBLE STUDIES AND BEFORE THAT HE TALKED IT OVER WITH ALL THOSE PASTORS AND THEY AGREED TO NOT TALK OR BRING UP ANY SORT OF ANTIGAY RHETORIC (SINCE IT WAS A VERY LONG EFFORT AND TONS OF PRAYER AND MUCH MORE BY THOSE PASTORS TO GET GOD TO SAVE HIS SON). SO I SPENT NEARLY A YEAR IN THE BIBLE STUDIES. THEY ALWAYS HAD OPERATION IN THE HOLY SPIRIT TIME AND PROPHESIED OVER ME OFTEN AND THE OTHERS. THEY TREATED ME AS AN EQUAL (I WAS A WEEKLY TV PREACHER BY THEN) THEY GAVE ME BOOKS TO READ BY WRITER THE IN ELITE PASTOR’S GROUPS ONLY HAD ACCESS TO AND THOSE BOOKS DESIGNED MORE FOR THOSE THAT WERE DEEPLY COMMITTED TO GOD AND USUALLY A PASTOR. AMAZING BOOKS TO SAY THE LEAST ON BIBLE AND HELP TO SPIRITUAL Christian leaders. THESE KIND OF BLESSING WERE QUITE NORMAL IN MY LIFE. I REALLY WANTED A STRONG’S CONCORDANCE, BUT PRICE OUT OF MY LEAGUE, ONE DAY A PASTOR (DIFFERENT TIME DIFFERENT SETTING) CAME IN A JUST GAVE ME ONE OUT OF THE BLUE. SO NOW I HAD DIRECT ACCESS TO THE MOST POPULAR ORIGINAL MEANINGS IN THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD. VERY IMPORTANT TO ME SO I CAN TALK DIRECTLY ON THE VERY SOURCES USED BY HOMOPHOBES FROM MY CHURCH BACKGROUND.
MY CURRENT LOVER I MET WAS AT A COLLEGE 2 ½ HOUR DRIVE AWAY WHY WOULD I DRIVE 2 HOURS FOR BASICALLY A BLIND DATE? AHHHH THEN HE COULD NOT SAY THE STREET NAME CORRECTLY AND SO I AM GOING TO A CITY I NEVER BEEN BEFORE AND TO A STREET I HAVE NO IDEA FOR SURE THE NAME AND SOME FOGGY DIRECTIONS AT BEST. BUT THERE IS WAS TURNING INTO A APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THERE WAS SOME GUY LOOKING THROUGH THE VENITION BLINDS WAITING FOR ME. WELL WE ARE STILL TOGETHER 20 YEARS LATER. I WAS TOLD IT WOULD NOT WORK.
I KNOW FOR A FACT ANY PROBLEMS I HAVE IN MARRIAGE IS THE SAME AS ANY STR8 MARRIED COUPLES. ANYTHING A STR8 MARRIED OR DATING COUPLE SAYS ABOUT LOVE AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP CANNOT EVEN REMOITELY SUPERSEDE OR BE DIFFERENT THAN GAY COUPLES RELATIONSHIPS. GAYS HAVE ONE UP ON STR8S THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY STR8 COUPLES AND SO KNOW EVERY TWIST IN WHAT GOES ON IN A MARRIED OR DATING COUPLES LIFE AND TV MOVIES TRY TO MAKE THAT A CENTRAL THEME TO BASE ANY MOVIE ON. YOU CAN’T LOVE MORE THAN GAYS CAN LOVE. JUST BECAUSE YOU CALL GAY LOVE LUST DOES NOT MAKE IT LUST. IT IS YOUR FILTHY MIND THAT TURN ANYONE’S LOVE YOU WANT INTO LUST. THE BIBLE TELLS YOU ABOUT LUST. HEBREW MEN OFTEN WENT TO FERTILITY RITUAL ORGIES. THIS IS NOT FICTION IT IS HISTORY. GANG RAPE WAS COMMON FOR BIBLE STR8 MEN. PAUL JUST BEFORE WRITING ROMANS WENT INSIDE THE LARGEST FERTILITY TEMPLE IN CORINTH. IT IS A FACT THERE WAS OVER 1000 TEMPLE PROSTITUTES IN THAT TEMPLE AND MANY ORGY ROOMS. HISTORY IS FILLED WITH STR8 ORGIES. WE HONOR MEN IN THE SPORT FIELD THAT HAVE BOOSTED OF OVER 2000 SEX PARTNERS WITH WOMEN. NOT JUST ONE OR 2 MADE NEWS BUT MANY.
AGAIN 650 MILLION GAYS COME ON PLEASE SHOW ME THE IMMORALITY. USE GAY BAR AND BATH HOUSES AND WE ALSO NEED TO USE STR8 ESTABLISHMENTS WHICH PERCENTAGEWISE WILL OUT NUMBER GAYS ESTABLISHMENTS. BUT WHEN YOU ACTUAL SIT DOWN AND TALK TO 10S OF 1000S OF GAYS YOU SEE THEY ARE ORDINARY PEOPLE WITH ORDINARY LIVES DOING WHAT HUMANS DO, GROW UP MEET SOMEONE AND SETTLE DOWN. GETTING THERE LIKE STR8S CAN TAKE A CROOKED ROAD.
I AM 62 YEARS OLD NOW AND I JUST GOT BACK FROM ITALY. EVEN THOUGH I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE COMPUTER PLANNING THAT TRIP, WHEN I GOT THERE IT WAS TOO MUCH TO TAKE IN IN FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET AROUND. BUT STILL HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE I SAW EVERYTHING I PLANNED TO SEE AND WENT EVERYWHERE I PLANNED TO GO. AND THOUGH THOSE SUPPOSE TO BE OF HELP (TICKET AGENTS AT STATIONS ETC) WOULDN’T SOMEHOW SOME WAY SOMEONE WAS ALWAYS THERE TO POINT THE WAY EVEN AT THE LAST POSSIBLE MOMENT TO MAKE A CONNECTION. I NEVER MISSED ANY CONNECTION OR HAD TO WAIT LONG ANYWHERE. WHEN JUDGING GAYS YOU NEED TO HEAR THEIR TESTIMONY. THEN SEE IF IT FITS YOUR IDEA HOW GAYS SHOULD BE. cajunmart
WANTS ME TO BE MESSED UP EVEN THOUGH IN OUR LAST MESSAGE I TOLD HIM I AM A TRUSTED EMPLOYEE AT A LARGE COMPANY (YESTERDAY OUR STORE MADE $110,000.00 AND I WAS THE MANAGER OF THE DAY.) IF YOU ARE MESSED UP YOU AREN’T LIKELY TO BE RUNNING SUCH A STORE ARE YOU?
I OWE NO ONE ANY MONEY, MY BILLS ARE UTILITY BILLS AND FOOD AND OTHER LIVING EXPENSES THAT OCCUR THAT ARE NOT A PAYING OFF ANYTHING. I AM PAID IN FULL. I OWN 2 NEW CARS ONE IS A NEW CLK FULLY LOADED CONVERTIBLE. THIS IS NOT TO SAY I DID NOT USE TO OWE, BUT GOD BLESSED ME. NO DONATIONS PAID ANY OF IT, JUST A MIRACLE IN SENDING ME A PERSON THAT CAN BUDGET. I LIVED PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK USUALLY, BUT HAVE BEEN DEBT FREE FOR 15 YEARS. PAID FOR NEW CARS EVERY COUPLE YEARS. OWN MY HOUSE, TAKING FOREIGN COUNTRY VACATIONS NOWADAYS TOO. NOT TRYING TO BRAG , BUT TO GIVE GLORY TO GOD. NO MATTER THE ECONOMY I HAVE RETIREMENT INCOME THAT WON’T CHANGE MY STYLE OF LIVING EVEN IF ECONOMY DRASTICALLY GETS WORSE.
BET cajunmart IS MORGAGED TO THE GET GO AND OWES A LOT, MAYBE NOT MANY PEOPLE ARE BLESSED MAYBE cajunmart IS NOT IN ANY DEBT BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE SO MANY ARE IN THE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK LIVING STYLE. BEING IN DEBT DOES NOT MAKE YOU LESS CLOSE TO GOD AND SAYS GOD IS NOT LOVING YOU AS MUCH. MY FIRST BIBLE WAS A MIRACLE I HAD $4.58 TO MY NAME AND ONLY NEW K-MART HAD BOOKS. INCLUDING TAX IT WAS $4.57 THIS WAS ONE DAY AFTER I ACCEPTED JESUS. MY BORN AGAIN EXPERIENCE WAS AMAZING THERE WAS A CLOUD AROUND THE 100 OR SO THAT ACCEPTED JESUS THAT NIGHT. NOT GOING TO DETAIL IT HERE NOW.
WOULD cajunmart EVEN CONSIDER WHAT HE MEANS BY GAYS GOT MESS UP AND GOT INTO HOMOSEXUALITY? 10s OR 1000s OF GAYS THAT I TALK TO TELL ME THEY DISCOVERED THEY WERE GAY AS YOUNG AS 5 BUT USUALLY AROUND 9 – 12 AND THEIR TESTIMONIES OF THAT TIME OF DISCOVERY IS AMAZING DRAMA OF AMAZING DATING AND COMING OUT TO FAMILY AND FRIENDS. FEW ACTUALLY HAD IT BAD, USUALLY THOSE THAT HAD IT BAD CAN BE FOUND IN LARGER NUMBERS IN EX-GAY MINISTRIES (ANOTHER STORY I WON’T GET INTO NOW) IT IS ALMOST UNHEARD OF THAT MOLESTATION WAS INVOLVED, LOTS THAT HAD SOMETHING CLOSE TO IT ALREADY NEW THEY WERE GAY AND ACTUALLY KNEW PLACES TO GO MEET GAYS. OCCASIONALLY YOU HAVE THE GENERAL CONCEPT OF HOMOPHOBIC BELIEFS THAT GAYS ARE RAPE WHEN A CHILD. TO FIND THOSE IN LARGE NUMBERS THOUGH ONLY 3% OF CASES ARE GAYS YOU NEED TO GO TO THERAPISTS THAT THAT IS THEIR SPECIALTY OTHERWISE DISCOVERING ONE IS GAY IS RARELY INFLUENCED BY OUTSIDE SOURCES. WELL THAT IS NOT TRUE I HAVE BEEN TOLD SO MANY TIME BY ASIANS THAT IT IS AMERICAN COWBOY MOVIES THAT DID IT. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE COWBOY STAR TOOK OFF HIS SHIRT. They dream of coming to American to meet some COWBOY STAR LIKE GAY GUY. GUESS HOMOPHOBES CALL THAT LUST EVEN THOUGH ASIAN WOMEN ARE NON-STOP SEEKING AMERICANS TO MARRY. I PERSONALLY FIND THAT ASSEMBLIES OF GOD PHILIPPINO WOMEN POP UP IN CHAT WITH ME FAIRY OFTEN SEEING JESUS IN MY NAME AND SO STRIKE UP A CONVERSATION TO TRY TO SNATCH ME FOR A HUSBAND. A GUY AT WORK HAS A VIETNAMESE WOMAN FOR A WIFE, THEY BEEN TOGETHER A VERY VERY LONG TIME SO IS THIS A LUST THAT TURNED TO LOVE OR WHAT THEORY DO YOU HAVE SINCE TO YOU GAYS JUST HAVE TO BE LUST BECAUSE THEY CAN’T LOVE EACH OTHER.
IT IS SUCH A DISGUSTING THING THAT ONE HUMAN CAN JUDGE ANOTHER HUMAN’S LOVE.
Gods intentions are clearly marked out from the very start of the bible in Genesis, to which Jesus himself attests when asked a question on divorce.
DIVORCE PLENTY SERIOUS, WHY NOT ASK ME IF I KNOW THINGS ABOUT THE BIBLE CONCERNING DIVORCE. IT MIGHT BE STR8 MARRIED PEOPLE WANT ME TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM CONCERNING THE BIBLE. RIGHT NOW I HAVE A INDIA PASTOR BEGGING ME TO SEND HIM TEACHINGS ON DIVORCE BECAUSE HE LOST THE ONE HE HAD AND NOW HE IS FINDING HIMSELF ON THE BRINK OF DIVORCE. SO YOU HAVE ASSUMED YOU GOT THE BIBLE SMARTS ON GOD’S WORD ON DIVORCE. YOU THINK GAYS ARE DUMMIES CONCERNING ANY TOPIC IN THE BIBLE I GUESS RIGHT? YET STR8S ARE DIVORCING TO THE TUNE 0F 60% AND OF THOSE UP TO 3 TIMES. THEN YOU HAVE TWO TYPES “PUTTING AWAY AND DIVORCE” PUTTING AWAY IS BEST DEFINE AS A SEPARATION TO COOL DOWN AND GET YOURSELF BACK ON TRACT IF POSSIBLE. HERE YOU ARE STILL MARRIED SO SEX WITH SOMEONE IS ADULTERY. BUT GOD DID RELENT AND DID GO WITH MOSES’ LAW OF DIVORCEMENT. DOES NOT MAKE DIVORCE RIGHT IN GOD’S SIGHT JUST THAT YOU CAN INDEED MARRY AS THOUGH YOUR SPOUSE DIED. MANY CAN’T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE HERE. HOWEVER, THERE NORMAL MARRIAGE TODAY DEFIES GOD’S LAW DIRECTLY BECAUSE MOST EVERYONE LEAVES MOTHER AND FATHER TO DO EVERY THING BUT MARRY. MARRIAGE TAKES PLACE AFTER MANY PARTNERS (NOTE AFTER 700,000 HOMOPHOBES LATER I CAN SAY THE MORE STRONG THE HOMOPHOBE IS THE LESS NORMAL THEIR OWN SEX LIFE IS COMPARED TO THE MASSES OF CHRISTIANS, THEY OFTEN WILL SAY THEIR FIRST DATE EVER IS WHO THEY MARRIED.) 69% OF BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN HAS SEX ON THEIR FIRST DATE, THIS IS A STR8 STUDY OF tbn FAME.
IN THE NT PAUL SAYS REPEATING GENESIS DON’T LEAVE HOME EXCEPT TO MARRY, THE APOSTLES REPLIED THEN IT IS NOT GOOD TO MARRY, JESUS THEN SAID A TEACHING MOST WON’T ACCEPT INCLUDING A PHRASE THAT UPON DEEP RESEARCH IN JESUS DAY AND TIME IN THE WRITING OF THE DAY YOU WILL FIND IT IS THE COMMON WAY PEOPLE CALLED THOSE THAT WERE GAY LIKE WE KNOW GAYS TODAY. NOW IF THIS TYPE RESEARCH TAKE SOMEONE 7 YEARS AND GOING THROUGH 10S OF 1000S OF ANCIENT WRITING OF JESUS DAY AND KNOWING SEVERAL LANGUAGES FLUENTLY AND EVEN DIALECTS IN LANGUAGE ARE YOU GOING TO DISCOUNT IT BECAUSE YOU LIKE TO READ IT AS YOU THINK IT COMMONLY DEFINED WHICH JESUS STATED MOST WON’T ACCEPT IT SO TELL ME HOW DO YOU GET INTO THE FEW THAT DO UNDERSTAND BUT YOU THINK IT IS THE COMMONLY ACCEPTED MEANING.
ACCESS TO MUCH INFO I SPEAK OF IN ON MY WEBSITE OR LINKS FROM THERE, OTHER INFO IN FROM FIRST HAND INFO GATHERING OVER DECADES.
THE BIBLE FOLLOWS SPEAKING RULES WHICH GOD CREATED, WHEN ONES SPEAKS TO A CROWD OF PEOPLE ONE SPEAKS TO THE COMMONALITY OF THE WHOLE GROUP, OTHERS IN THE GROUP THAT IS OUT OF THAT NORM ADAPT VERY WELL TO THE SPEAKERS POINT. THIS IS A COMMON HUMAN TRAIT GOD CREATED IN US ALL. AT TIMES THE SPEAKER MAY ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC GROUP AND SO IS MORE DETAILED TO THEIR CIRCUMSTANCE. 90% ARE STR8 SO OFTEN THE BIBLE ADDRESSES THE STR8 WHILE OTHER GROUPS ADAPT IN THE BIBLE’S (GOD’S) POINT.
Matt 19/4-6 have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female. And said, for this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put us under.
WHY THEN DID YOU LEAVE YOUR PARENT? BET IT WAS NOT TO GET MARRIED.
Jesus did not say God made them male and male, he did not say he made them female and female, he did not say a man shall leave his father and father, his mother and mother or his father dressed as his mother or vice versa, neither did he say that a man shall cleave to his husband, I see no room in this passage for homosexual relationships.
HEBREW WORD FOR “RIB” IS “CELL FROM THAT RIB” STEVE WAS IN THE DNA
Gen 1/27 so God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
CHRISTIANS QUICKLY TAKE CONTRACEPTIVES TO PREVENT MULTIPLYING. ABORTION IS A STR8 THING. CHRISTIANS DURING A LARGE PERIOD TOSSED THEIR KIDS AWAY FORCING THE CHURCH TO RAISE THEM. SEEMS LIKE YOU GOT TO GET YOUR ISSUES STR8 WHOM TO COMDEMN.
God created them male and female, please note the gender differentiation, he created them as sexual beings to replenish the earth, something that will never happen between homosexuals without the aid of some possible futuristic Frankenstein science.
NEARLY 7 BILLION, UNLESS YOU WANT TO CALL GOD A LIAR YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO DEAL WITH REAL LIFE. ALSO IN THE GARDEN BROTHERS AND SISTERS HAD SEX AND BABIES TOGETHER, DO WE THEN SAY WE SHOULD DO THIS TODAY BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE GARDEN? OR DO WE READ MORE PAGES IN THE BIBLE TO FIND THINGS DID CHANGE IN THIS AREA.
Again no mention of homosexuals as part of Gods plan, only perhaps in the light of the fall, But in the original creation: Gen 1/31 and God saw every thing that he had made, and behold, it was very good.
YOU WANT TO SEE SEX IN THE BIBLE INSTEAD OF PEOPLE. THERE ARE 2 MAJOR GAY MARRIAGES AND BY PHRASE USAGES OF THE DAY WE CAN FIND MANY GAY MARRIAGE AS THEY WERE ALSO HOW STR8S MARRIED. JUST BECAUSE YOU WON’T STUDY LIFE OF THOSE DAYS CONCERNING GAYS DOES NOT STOP OTHERS FROM RESEARCHING ACTUAL LIFE IN THE DAYS OF JESUS.
God acknowledges that Adam is lonely, so what does he do, does he create another man for him? No, he does not, God made the first woman from Adams side, as a perfect but complementary opposite companion for Adam, not only to satisfy his loneliness, but also to satisfy his sexual desire.
WHY ARE YOU JUSTIFYING YOUR HATRED OF GAYS INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH THE 14 VERSES THAT ARE USED TO CONDEMN GAYS BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU. YOU ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY BEING STR8 TO USE THAT TO SAY GAY IS SIN. NOT A LOT OF SOURCES TO DEAL WITH WHEN YOU GOT ONE HUMAN ON EARTH. TRY WAITING A COUPLE 1000 YEARS THEN READ THAT TIME PERIOD IN THE BIBLE SO YOU CAN SEE THE EVOLUTION OF MARRIAGE.
God not only created eve but he bought her to him, Gen 2/22 and the rib, which the lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and bought her unto the man
HEBREW MEANS CELL
The joining of flesh of Adam and eve was not only permitted by God, but he actually made it so.
This is the first pattern for the marriage of man and woman.
Gen 2/24 therefore shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh
YOU DID NOT LEAVE YOUR PARENT TO MARRY YOU JOINED THE MILITARY OR WENT TO COLLEGE OR GOT A JOB OR SOWED WILD OATS THEN LATER DECIDED YOU NEEDED TO GET MARRIED
This demonstrates the intimacy of Gods plan. Now although a comment by the author, Moses, it was of course, as previously demonstrated, attested by Jesus Christ.
THE BIBLE IS A HUGE BOOK AND COVERS MANY TOPICS YOU CENTER ON VERSES THAT YOU THINK FIT YOUR WISHES AND YOU PRETEND THE REST OF THE BIBLE DOES NOT EXIST
This is the pattern, the original plan, the blueprint for life and procreation.
THE PLAN WORKED 7 BILLION ALMOST AND CHRISTIAN KILL THEIR UNBORN BABIES LIKE KILLING ANTS AND MOST OF YOUR SEX IS IN NO WAY TO MULTIPLY. FOR 1000 YEARS CHRISTIANS HAD LEGAL ACCESS TO COMBINES AND MISTRESSES. ST AUGUSTINE CHANGED THAT WE HE SOLD HIS CONCUBINE SO HE COULD MARRY A RICH WOMAN
Gen 2/25 and they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
There open nakedness in the original creation was pure, and unashamed therein.
LETS ALL GO NAKED IN THE STREETS NOW SEEMS THAT’S WHAT YOU ARE TELLING US
Now lets look at the basic fundamental relationship, intended for human beings made in the image of God: namely marriage: now as I am sure you will know (being old and wise with an unsurpassable knowledge that none should dare attempt to supersede) that there is no real Hebrew equivalent word for marriage, the usual term used is to take a woman as found in Gen 4/19 amongst other places.
Male and female being the primary fulfillment of the marriage which is as previously described the fundamental relationship for human beings.
YOU DO NOT HAVE A DEGREE IN PSYCHOLOGY SO DON’T PLAY LIKE YOU GOT A BRAIN. I BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK AND KNOW TONS ABOUT HUMAN NATURE WORLDWIDE IN EVERY CULTURE AND YOU WANT TO TRY TO TELL ME YOUR WISHES ARE GOD’S FACTS?
What emerges from the old testament and which is confirmed in the new is the ethical ideal that sexual activity is to be confined within faithful, heterosexual marriage, normally lifelong
60% OF CHRISTIANS ARE GOING TO HELL SO WHY AREN’T YOU GOING TO HELP THEM NOT EVER HAVE SEX AGAIN AFTER THEIR DIVORCES. MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE IS VERY VERY WELL STUDIED BY MANY FACTIONS OVER 6000 YEARS HOW DID YOU GET BRAINY AND HAVE SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITY TO INTERRUPT GOD’S WORD BETTER THAT ALL THE CLERGY UP TO NOW. CHRISTIANITY IS A VERY BIG CLUB. YOU HAVE NOT EVEN SAID WHAT CHURCH BACKGROUND YOU HAVE. DENOMINATIONS DIFFER WIDELY ON MANY TOPICS, BUT YES IN FACT STRONG HOMOPHOBES THINK ONLY THEIR BELIEF IS RIGHT AND ALL OTHER CHRISTIAN GROUPS ARE GOING TO HELL
As Jesus upholds and once again confirms the OT: Mathew 5/31-32 19/3-9 and Mark 10/1-12 Luke 16/18 and 1 Cor 7/10-11
And as such is celebrated in Proverbs 5/15-19 31/10-31 etc
BOOKS AND SPEAKERS FALLOW SPEAKING RULES THAT GOD CREATED, THIS IS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN TALK TO LOTS OF PEOPLE AND A MIX OF TYPES OF PEOPLE AND ALL UNDERSTAND. A GOOD PART OF THE BIBLE ADDRESSES 90% CONCERNING SEXUAL ORIENTATION, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ADDRESS 10% IN MOST OF THE BIBLE HARDLY. SO YOU NEED TO SEARCH OUT THE AREAS OF THE BIBLE THAT TALKS ABOUT GAYS. THIS MAY BE VERY HARD FOR YOU IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO GAYS ARE AND GAYS IN HISTORY. AND YOU CERTAINLY WON’T LISTEN TO GAYS SO FOR YOU YOU ARE BLIND TO SOMETHING IN FRONT OF YOU
God also commands us to honour our father and mother, not mother and mother or father and father, or father who thinks he is your mother.
NOW YOU ARE SAYING GAYS DO NOT HONOR PARENTS
Ephesians 5/22- 6/4 wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing
So again, the plan of one man and one woman continues throughout the bible, You can continue to read this, it is all in the bible, unless of course you have a special one with all the problems to ones cause or a KJV with all the undesirable pages removed.
ADDRESSING 90% YOU NEED TO LOOK DEEPER TO SEE THE 10% ADDRESSED AND IT IS ADDRESSED
Are you of the understanding that marriage was instituted and ordained by God, and thus takes place between one man and one woman, The whole emphasis of Genesis 1 and 2?
GOD IS THE JOINER OF PEOPLE NOT COURTS OF PASTORS
Matt 19:6
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. (KJV)
YOU MAY WISH THAT VERSE APPLIES STRICTLY TO THE PREVIOUS VERSE, BUT IF GOD JOINS TWO PEOPLE YOU SHOULD NOT BE TRYING TO CONDEMN GOD BY YOU DECIDING IT JUST CAN’T BE GOD SO IT HAS TO BE EVIL
Good, so lets us move on and attempt cut through your nonsensical attempts at bolstering your argument, and look at the various passages to see what they really appear to but saying.
Now I do not have the many years of experience that you claim to have, in fact I have far less, in fact I have been reading the Bible for less than 5 years, however in this instance, I do not feel that I am at any disadvantage, rather on the contrary, you see, I only have to show where the truth lies, where as you have to try to convince me that your lies are truth.
YOU ARE SHOWING JUSTIFICATION OF YOUR HATRED OF GAYS, HAD YOU WANTED TRUTH YOU WOULD REALIZE YOU DON’T HAVE A LOT TO GO ON. 650 MILLION GAYS IS A LOT OF PEOPLE TWICE THAT OF USA POPULATION. THERE IS SO MUCH INFO IN ANY AREA YOU LIKE TO RESEARCH ON GAYS. GAYS WERE HERE VERY VERY VERY VERY SOON AFTER BABIES START POPPING OUT OF STOMACHS. AND THE CORRESPONDING HISTORY WRITTEN. THEN YOU HAVE BRAINS THAT SPEND LIFE TIME IN THE DETAILED TIME CONSUMER STUDY AND RESEARCH.
ONE EXAMPLE IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU SAY GAYS CAN BE DELIVERED, IF THIS SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THE FACTS. I PERSONALLY WAS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE EX-GAY MOVEMENT IN FACT I LIVE ABOUT A MILE FROM WHERE EXODUS INTERNATIONAL WAS FOUNDED AND THEY WENT ON THE BE THE HUB FOR LINKING THE EX-GAY MINISTRIES THAT THEN BEGAN POPPING UP. THESE 2 FOUNDERS COOPER AND BUSSEE BECAME LOVERS AND WENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY APOLOGIZING FOR THE LIES THEY TOLD ABOUT GAYS AND OF ALL THE PEOPLE THEY HURT IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET THEM STR8. THAT MINISTRY WAS TAKEN OVER BY STR8 THEN A SUPPOSED GAY MAN THAT ONLY HAD THOUGHT WHO MARRIED THE SECRETARY. MY RESEARCH SHOWS FURTHER THAT 90% OF EX-GAY LARDERS WERE MOSTLY IN STRICT CATHOLIC UPBRINGING WITH TESTIMONIES THAT THEIR PARENTS DID ALL THEY COULD TO GET THEM IN THERAPY FOR DELIVERANCE AND MORE. LONG STORY SHORT FOLLOW-UP ON THE SUPPOSED EX-GAYS RESULTED IN ZERO EX-GAYS. I WILL NOT GO DEEPER NOW IN THIS. MY LIFE AS A CHRISTIAN WAS IN PENTECOSTAL CHURCH AND THE LIKE. IE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD. I NEVER MISSED AND SERVICE OF ANY KIND INCLUDING WORKSHOP FOR NEARLY 15 YEARS. I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TIME TO GET THE GIST OF WHAT HARD CORE FUNDALMENTIST CHRISTIANS ARE. I HOLD THEIR STATEMENT OF FAITH NEARLY EXACTLY. IF YOU READ THEIR STATEMENT OF FAITH, LINK FROM MY SITE. THAT IS MINE TOO. TWO THINGS I AND DIFFERENT ON THE GAY DOCTRINE BECAUSE NOT ANY ASSEMBLIES OF GOD STUDY IS MUCH MORE THAN SAYING THING LIKE YOU ARE SAYING, NO TESTIMONIES ARE ALLOWED BY GAYS AND NO RESEARCH RELEASED CONCERNING REAL GAYS IN HISTORY. THEIR COLLEGES IN MY RESEARCH DO HAVE THESE FACT BUT THEIR TEACHER ARE FORBIDDEN TO TEACH THEM IN CLASS. I HAVE TALKED WITH MANY SUCH TEACHERS OVER THE YEARS.
YOU ADMIT YOU HAVE LITTLE TIME IN THE BIBLE AND YOU ACCEPT THE FACT THAT I DO HAVE PLENTY OF TIME IN THE BIBLE, SO WHAT DO YOU DO YOU DISOBEY GOD AND DISRESPECT YOUR ELDERS JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE GAY.
AGAIN AS I SAID HOMOPHOBES LOVE SAYING THINGS LIKE "IT CLEARLY STATES"
Well let me rephrase that, to those not suffering from intense paranoia, in so much as they believe that the whole world is against them, rather than trying to prevent them from making a grave error and those who have not deceived themselves with the 2% of literature that actually supports their notion, or perhaps both, then the Bible is clear on the subject of homosexuality.
50% IS THE FACTS NOT THE WHOLE WORLD, BIG DIFFERENCE. IOWA NOW HAS GAY MARRIAGE SO THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE WHOLE WORLD AS YOU CLAIM. 2% BE NICE TO KNOW HOW YOU GET THAT INFO. IT DOES NOT TAKE MUCH SEARCH TO FIND TONS OF LITERATURE ON GAYS. IN THE USA ALONE THERE ARE 3 GAY LIBRARIES WITH OVER A MILLION BOOKS ONE HAVE 4 MILLION BOOKS. IN THE VATICAN THERE IS A TON OF INFO NOT ALLOWED TO MOST RESEARCHERS CONCERNING A POSITIVE SIDE TO GAYS. GAY HISTORY BOOKS ABOUND AND GAY NEWSPAPERS ARE IN MOST SIMI LARGE TO LARGE CITY AND MANY SMALLER CITIES IN EVERY COUNTRY. WHY DO YOU THINK SOME STATES ARE ACCEPTING GAYS? IS IT BECAUSE ONLY 2% POSSIBLE SUPPORT OUT THERE?
Let me ask you this, if God thinks that homosexuality is not sinful, then why has he made such a good job of making it look like it is? Do you think he has a sick sense of humour or does the phrase, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then its probably a duck bear any significance?
GOD’S PLAN IS TO TAKE BACK HIS GLORY STOLEN BY GOD’S PEOPLE. IN THE PAST 2000 YEARS CHRISTIAN TOOK CONTROL OF CHRISTIANITY. RARELY NOW DO WE REALLY LET GO AND LET GOD IN ANYTHING.
I AM A LAST DAYS’ PREACHER TOO AND YES GOD HAS MANY THINGS THAT MUST BE. 1260 DAYS OF SPANKING OF HIS PEOPLE IS A SET TIME IN THE LAST DAYS TO GET RID OF THE INFLUENCE OF FALSE DOCTRINES LIES AND CONDITIONINGS AND COUNTERFEIT MODERN BIBLES AND MORE. HUGE NUMBERS OF CHRISTIANS WILL TURN FROM GOD. CHRISTIANS MADE SLAVES OF BLACKS AND USED THEM AS SEXUAL TOYS. CHRISTIAN HISTORY ON BLACK IS NOT A PRETTY SIGHT, WOMAN ONLY RECENTLY GOT THE RIGHT TO VOTE. ALL BUT ONE SIGNER OF THE CONSTITUTION WAS A MASON. IT JUST HAPPENS MY ANCESTOR SIGN THE CONSTITUTION AND HI WAS NOT A MASON. VERY VERY OFTEN THE CHURCH THINKS THERE IS A DEMON BEHIND EVERY BUSH, THIS PROVED TO BE RIGHT ONLY ONCE. GRANDPA BUSH, FATHER BUSH, AND SON BUSH. POINT IS THE CHURCH WAS VERY WRONG MANY TIMES, THE WORLD DID NOT TURN OUT TO BE FLAT. BOY YOU COULD HAVE BEEN EXECUTED IF YOU TOLD PEOPLE IT WAS ROUND OR THE EARTH CIRCLED THE SUN. THE BILLS OF RIGHTS WAS INCLUDED BECAUSE IF THE MAJORITY WANTED TO TAKE THE MINORITY RIGHTS AWAY THEY COULD NOT. CHRISTIAN MOST OF THE TIME WAS WRONG ABOUT SO MANY THINGS. THE GAY ISSUE IS EXTREME SIGNIFICANT FOR THE LAST DAYS. BUT YOU HATE GAYS SO MUCH YOU WILL NEVER FIND OUT WHAT THE IMPORTANT TO YOU FUTURE IS THAT WILL HELP YOU KEEP YOUR FAITH. IT JUST MAY BE TO LATE FOR YOU TO LEARN WHAT’S COMING AND HOW TO UNDERSTAND THAT MAN OVER THERE IS NOT JESUS AND JESUS DID NOT FORSAKE YOU. I WILL NOT GET INTO PROPHECY AND LAST DAYS SINCE IT IS YOUR HOMOPHOBIA WE ARE ADDRESSING.
I PREVIOUSLY EXPLAINED HATE IS A BEHAVIOR. SIMPLY STATING YOU DO NOT HATE CANNOT OVERRIDE YOUR ACTUAL BEHAVIOR OF HATE.
Well that may be so, although I am not entirely sure that I have displayed hatred towards you, I havent used foul language or directly insulted you in an aggressive way, perhaps you are an oversensitive individual with an inferiority complex?
Either way, its only sticks and stones!
I SAID THE BEHAVIOR IS HAD YOU LOVE YOU WOULD HAVE STUDIED AND THEN BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN HOW YOU GET GAYS INTO A WORD. SO FAR YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT MARRIAGE AND VERSES NOT HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH GAYS. THERE ARE 14 VERSES YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH THESE 14 VERSES BEFORE YOU GO INTO LA LA LAND OF PSYCHOLOGY ON MALE TO FEMALE LOVE. PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD COME TO ME TO ASKED MY HELP IN HOW TO RAISE JUNIOR OR HOW TO DATE WITH JESUS AT THE CENTER. DON’T ASK ME WHY A MOTHER AND FATHER WOULD COME TO A NAME “GAYS4JESUS” FOR THEIR FAMILY’S CHRISTIAN LIVING. CAN YOU IMAGINE SO MANY STR8S COMES TO ME TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND HOW TO LIVE RIGHT FOR CHRIST AS THEY DATE. I DON’T KNOW WHY PASTORS IN MANY COUNTRIES BEG ME TO COME PREACH AT THEIR CHURCH. POINT IS HAD YOU LOVE YOU COULD SEE GOD IN ME AS THESE MANY DO, BUT YOUR HATE OVERRIDES YOUR LOVE BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE TRUTH THAT WILL SET YOU FREE ON THIS TOPIC. I CAN ONLY TELL YOU TO STUDY AND ONLY THAT I WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN HOW YOU GET GAYS IN A VERSE. BUT YOU WANT TO SEE STR8S IN A VERSE THEN SAY THAT IS ENOUGH PROOF GAY IS SIN. BY THE WAY I DO KNOW WHY GOD SEND ALL THESE PEOPLE TO A NAME LIKE GAYS4JESUS
HAD YOU LOVE YOU WOULD NEVER EVER STATE THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS,
Do you want me to lie to you? Would that make you feel better? Would that be showing love? Would encouraging you to head down the path of hell be love? Or is it perhaps that tough love is sometimes the better option? Sometimes the truth really does hurt, and ill happily sacrifice my popularity for such a cause.
Matt 5/11: blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
AGAIN LOVE IS A BEHAVIOR HAD YOU LOVE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN A VERSE TO ME ON DETAILS OF HOW YOU GOT IT TO SAY GAYS
I will emphasise on what I wrote in the previous letter, love is not telling someone that something detrimental to their salvation is ok, so as to not hurt their feelings, that displays a total lack of care towards that individual, and is exactly what one particular area of your ministry is guilty of.
HATE IS TELLING SOMEONE SOMETHING IS SIN WITHOUT BACKING IT UP WITH FACT THAT CAN SET ONE FREE. TRUTH SETS ONE FREE. SODOMITE IS A MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE, GENESIS IS ABOUT GANG RAPE. IF YOU REALLY THINK SODOMITE MEANS GAYS SHOW ME IF YOU REALLY THINK SODOM WAS DESTROYED BECAUSE OF GAYS THEN SHOW ME THE REAL GAY COUPLES NOT A CITY FULL OF RAPIST. RAPIST IN NOT A DEFINITION OF GAY SEX SO YES YOU ARE INSULTING GAYS RIGHT AND LEFT BY CALLING THEM GANG RAPIST OR MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES. AND SAYING GOD DID NOT MAKE STEVE
INSTEAD YOU WOULD TALK ABOUT YOUR RESEARCH INTO THE PLACES YOU THINK THAT BIBLES SAYS. BUT READING THROUGH YOUR COMMENTS I SEE YOU ARE SCAPE GOATING OUT AND BACK TO SIMPLE STATEMENTS A VERSE MEANS GAY IS SIN AUTOMATICALLY AND NO ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN HOW YOU MADE THE VERSE TALK ABOUT REAL GAYS.
Actually I am amazed that you cannot see for yourself:
AS I SAY OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOMOPHOBES ASSUME PRESENTING A VERSE IS ENOUGH. SO YOU AVOID EXPLAINING
Romans 1/27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet
TELL WHY YOU DO NOT USE VERSE 18-32 WHY DID YOU RIP OUT A VERSE AND TACK ON AN AUTO MEANS GAY IS SIN?
BURNED IN LUST THIS IS FROM A GREEK WORD. PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT YOUR SEX LIFE. ARE YOU BURNING IN LUST WITH YOUR WIFE? 2 GREEK WORDS NATURE AND NATURAL. SEED AND INSTINCT IN ENGLISH MEANS IN THE GRAMMER IN THAT VERSE THAT IF YOU WERE RIGHT THEN IT MEANS STR8 ADULTS NATURALLY LOVED AND HAD ENJOYABLE SEX WITH OPPOSITE SEX THEN SUDDENLY HAD GAY SEX. VS 18 BEGINS TO DESCRIBE STR8 ADULTS (THEY HAD TO BE STR8 IF THEY WERE TO CHANGE TO GAY AND THEY HAD TO BE ADULT AND KNOW GOD TO TURN TO OTHER GODS). THE INSULT IS HORRIBLE TO TELL A PERSON HIS LOVING CARING LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP WHERE YOU ARE VERY RESPONSIBLE LAW ABIDING PERSON IS THIS SORT OF VILE LUSTFUL PERSON. THEN 28-32 DETAILS SO MANY BEHAVIORS THAT IS AN ABSOLUTELY REQUIREMENT SINCE THE VERSE SAID GOD GAVE IT TO THEM. GAYS IN REAL LIFE WORLDWIDE IN ALL CULTURES ARE ABOUT AS OPPOSITE AS ROMANS 28-32 AS YOU CAN GET. SO YES INDEED YOUR BEHAVIORAL WORDS ARE VERY HATEFUL AND DEMEANING AND THE WORST PART IS YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE
This is God’s wrath revealed from heaven against human ungodliness and unrighteousness.
SO GOD POURS OUT HIS WRATH ON 5 YEAR OLDS THROUGH 12 YEAR OLDS MAKING THEM GAY. IT IS BECAUSE GOD FORESAW THEY WOULD BE EVIL SO MADE THEM GAY FIRST BEFORE THEY GREW UP. HATRED IS TO TOSS TERMS ON TO DECENT FOLK LIKE UNGODLINESS AND YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW THE PERSON YOU JUST SAW THE WORD GAY AND IT WOULD BE YOUR LAST CONSIDERATION TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE LIFE OF GAYS UNLESS IT WAS FROM A THERAPIST THAT WAS COUNSELING A VERY MESSED UP PERSON THEN YOU WISHES ARE FULFILLED. TO BAD YOU WON’T COMBINED STR8 MESSED UP PEOPLE SO YOU COULD THEN SAY STR8 IS SIN
The only way you can make these passages disappear is to tear the pages from your bible, but you cannot wish them away.
AND THAT IS WHAT HOMOPHOBES DO, SUDDENLY THER IS JUST 14 VERSES IN THE BIBLE AND YOU PICK OUT ANY OTHER VERSE THAT TALKS ABOUT SIN IN GENERAL TO ADD INTO THE 14 VERSE AND SO NO OTHER VERSE IN THE BIBLE FOR A HOMOPHOBE WHEN TALKING TO GAYS
BROAD IS THE WAY TO EVERLASTING LAKE OF FIRE.
And destruction, yes it is.
WHO CARES ABOUT MOST PEOPLE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOUR LACK OF EXPLAINING WHY YOU THINK GAY IS SIN.
Well first of all returning to the story of Lot, we have established that to know in the context of this passage means to have sexual relations, unless of course you want to bury your head in the sand and deny the overwhelming evidence. (See below for the comparison of the same word used to describe lots daughters virginity)
In light of this, it becomes clear of what the men of Sodom intended to do, which was rape the male guests.
now this could either have been sexual desire or have been a way of humiliating the guests, as took place in ancient times as a way of demeaning prisoners of war, though there is no evidence to suggest which of the two possible explanations was the motive, either way, homosexuality was the intention.
RAPE IS NOT A DEFINITION OF GAYS THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THE HOMOPHOBE HATRED OF 650 MILLION PEOPLE. FOR YOU YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL EVEN IF YOU ADMIT IT WAS ALL THE MEN WERE GOING TO RAPE THE “MALE GUEST” SO TELL ME CLICK ON THE NEWS NOW WAIT A SHORT BIT AHH THERE SOME MAN RAPED A WOMAN, NOW WE HAVE PROOF STR8 S SIN. THIS IS YOUR MENTALITY YOU CANNOT SEE RAPE IS DIFFERENT FROM LOVE FOR YOU IF IT IS MALE THEN IT IS GAY. HISTORICAL GEOLOGICAL FACT ARE SHOWING FAMILIES IN SODOM MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN. BUT THEY KEY IS EVERY HUMAN IN 2 CITIES CAM TO RAPE TO DEATH 2 ANGELS AND YOU MAKE THIS GAY IS SIN. THE GANG RAPIST IN THE WORLD ARE MOSTLY ALL STR8 IT IS REALLY RARE TO HEAR ABOUT GAY GANG RAPISTS. STR8 MEN DO RAPE OTHER MEN IT IS ALSO VERY COMMON IN PRISONS GO TALK TO THE THERAPIST IN PRISON THEY CAN FILL YOU IN ON INCARCERATION OFTEN MAKES A STR8 MAN FIND SOME OTHER MAN TO MAKE HIS “WOMAN” AND HE DOMINATES HER, ONCE OUT OF PRISON HE GOES RIGHT BACK TO REAL WOMEN AND DOMINATES THEM SO TELLME HOW YOU GET SODOM A GAY CITY. I TELL YOU IT IS SO SICK TO HEAR A HOMOPHOBE TELL A GAY PERSON HE IS A GANG RAPIST
The fact that the men of the city refused Lots daughters shows that they were only interested in homosexual activity, Now although, (as I previously pointed out) homosexuality was not the only sin that took place, it was incidentally the sin that bought final judgement on the men of Sodom, not (contrary to homosexual belief) the intention of rape, as Lots offering of his daughters would place him in the same category as the men of the city as to aid and abet the crime, therefore since Lot was saved, whilst the others perished, again this belief cannot be upheld.
YOU SO CLEARLY SEE THE RAPE BUT ARE SO BLIND RAPE IS NOT A GAY BEHAVIOR
Jude 1/7-8 even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
I ALREADY TOLD YOU JUDE’S’ FORNICATION IS A GREEK WORD THAT HAS INCORPORATED LIST OF SINS. ONE SIN IN THAT LIST IS MALE PROSTITUTE AND IN PAUL’S DAY MALE PROSTITUTES CUSTOMER WERE MOSTLY IF NOT ALL WOMEN. AND YES SODOM WAS A SEXUAL IMMORAL CITY NOT A HOMOSEXUAL CITY, WE CAN PLAY A GAME LET SAY THE CITY WAS ALL GAY AND GOMORRA WAS ALL STR8. NOW FAST FORWARD TO PRESENT AND JESUS IS RETURNING WHO WOULD BE SAVED IN THE 2 CITIES? WELL ALL THE AS IT WERE GAYS AND ALL THE STR8S DID NOT ACCEPT THE GOD OF ISRAEL AND SO STR8 OR GAY EVERY ONE PERISHES PERIOD. THE CITIES WERE NOT GODLY THEY HAD gods. TODAY ALL THE VERY DECENT MARRIED STR8 FOLK WILL GO TO HELL (TECKNEQUELY THE LAKE OF FIRE) IF THEY HAD NOT ACCEPTED JESUS. THE PROBABLY ACCURATE NUMBERS OF DECENT FOLK GOING TO HELL IS 2.16 BILLION FLAT OUT. IT SIMPLY DOES NOT MATTER IF THERE ONLY SIN WAS NOT ACCEPTING JESUS AND OTHERWISE THEY WERE PILLARS OF MORALITY THEY WOULD GO TO HELL. SODOM WAS EVIL BUT SO WAS NINEVEH BUT THEY REPENTED, OTHER CITED JESUS SAID WERE WORST THE SODOM THAT IF THE SAME THINGS DONE IN THOSE CITIES WERE DONE IN SODOM SODOM WOULD BE SAVED.
This passage speaks of the judgement for the sexual immorality and perversion that took place in the cities, fornication, strange flesh (as it wasnt Gods intention, it was seen as strange to want to have sexual relations within ones own agenda) and even their dreams are described as being filthy.
The translation strange flesh can also be translated into other flesh this can only refer to homosexual intercourse, as you will no doubt know the Greek word for other is hetros which in biblical terms indicates: to desire sexual relations with the same sex is actually other other than the natural created order.
WHEN I DREAM WHICH IS JUST SECONDS AFTER FALLING ASLEEP AND AM STR8WAY INTO A VISION OFTEN PROPHETIC OFTEN JUST NEAT MANY TIME JESUS IS THERE AND SO MUCH AMAZING THINGS. OFTEN ANTICHRIST KNOWS ME AND KNOWS HE CAN DO NOTHING ACCEPT LET ME WATCH AND SEE HIS PLANS. ALWAYS IT IS A KNOWN FACT I AM OF GOD AND NO ONE CAN TOUCH ME. TALK ABOUT UTTERLY REMARKABLE SITES I’VE SEEN. I SAW CHURCHES FLOODED WITH PEOPLE AND LINED UP. I AM THERE OFTEN CAMERA IN HAND BUT ALWAYS IT IS KNOWN I AM SENT BY GOD. OK SO YOU THINK MY DREAM ARE FILTHY?
JUDE DOES NOT GO DEEPER THAN STR8 MALE PROSTITUTES, SODOM IS EVIL, YOU DO NOT NEED TO PRETEND I DON’T KNOW THE POINT YOU GOT TO DO IS EXPLAIN HOW SEXUAL IMMORAL TO YOU IS ANOTHER WORD FOR GAYS. I WISH YOU WOULD PRODUCE GREEK OR HEBREW TO SHOW THIS
And from the words of Jesus Christ: Matt 11/23-24 and thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgement, than for thee
SEE I TOLD YOU
Leviticus 18/21-23
This passage describes the prohibited sexual practices by the Pagans in the land of Canaan and the penalties for disobedience, and how the people of Israel are urged not to follow these same practices.
It described how the land spewed out the previous inhabitants due to their uncleanness, the prohibition on homosexual acts here, and in the new testament is countercultural.
Later on in Leviticus 20, amongst other places, we can view a list of sexual sins that carry the death penalty, homosexuality being one of them.
13 POSSIBLE CORRECT TRANSLATIONS TO ENGLISH EXIST FOR LEV 13 & 18 CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THEY ARE? NO YOU CAN’T AND WON’T. I DO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. ENGLISH IS A PROHIBITIVE LANGUAGE THAT LIMITS MANY WORDS SUCH AS LOVE IN GREEK HAS A FEW WORDS THAT THE ONE USED IN ITS SELF TELLS YOU THE SORT OF LOVE IT IS AND SO NO FURTHER WORD ARE NEEDED. ENGLISH NEEDS EXTRA WORDS TO TELL YOU WHAT THE WORD MEANS. HEBREW ALSO HAS MANY WORDS THIS WAY WHERE ENGLISH HAS ONLY ONE. TRANSLATOR AS A GENERAL RULE DO NOT BRING OVER TO ENGLISH THE HEBREW/GREEK MEANINGS THEY JUST GIVE THE ONE ENGLISH WOULD SO THE READER HAS TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT. LIKE YOU YOU HATE GAYS SO IT WOULD NOT SUIT YOU TO STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED OF GOD. THE WORD MAN IN THESE 2 VERSE SPECIFIC CHAPTER MEANS “PRACTICING STR8 MAN” THIS MEANS AT LEAST THE FIRST MAN IS A MAN THAT HAD HAD SEX WITH WOMEN AND LOVED IT AND WAS A KNOW HET. THE 2ND MAN IS A BIT MORE VAGUE BUT IS CONNECTED WITH THE WORD ABOMINATION AND IN BOTH OT & NT THIS WORLD MEANS ACTS DONE IN DURING AND FOR WORSHIPPING OF OTHER gods. ONLY ONE PLACE IN THE BIBLE CAN YOU FIND A GENERIC FORM OF ABOMINATION AND IT WAS USED FOR FOOD SANCTIFIED TO OTHER gods. NOW HISTORIC FACTS OF THIS MOSES’ DAY LEADING THE PEOPLE TO THE PROMISED LAND. FERTILITY TEMPLES ABOUND EVERYWHERE AND HEBREW MARRIED MEN OFTEN WENT TO THEIR MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES FOR RITUAL SEX. THEY HOPED FOR BLESSINGS IN THE SEX ACT AS PROMISED BY THE gods. IT IS NOT UP FOR WISHING ABOUT THESE FERTILITY TEMPLES AND THE SEX ORGIES TAKING PLACE IN THEM AND THAT HEBREW MEN WENT TO THEM. GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD AND A CONNECTION TO ADULTERY IS IN THE VERSE IN THAT THE WORD WOMANKIND IS PRETTY HARD TO GET AWAY FROM A ADULTERESS WOMAN. THE WOMAN WAS NOT THE WIFE OF THE MAN IN THE VERSE IT WAS NOT A MARRIED STR8 COUPLE BE COMPARED WITH A GAY COUPLE. ALSO, NO HISTORY SHOWS OT OR NT GOD’S PEOPLE EVER KILLED ANY GAYS BASE ON YOU GOT TO PUT THEM TO DEATH. NOW THE JEWISH LAW WAS CLEAR ON WHO AND HOW THEY WOULD BE PUT TO DEATH. THE ONE WHO CAUGHT THEM WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD STONE THEM TO DEATH. SO HEY ARE YOU GOING TO COME OVER AND STONE ME TO DEATH?
STANDING UP FOR TRUTH MEANS DOING YOUR HOMEWORK OF VERSES AND SEE HOW THEY AND THE WORDS WERE USED IN THOSE ANCIENT TIMES.
Why then do you not spend your time wisely and research the truth, rather than this rather ridiculous homosexual apologetic project you have undertaken?
As for the theory of the words that have evolved can you explain why, 98% of bible commentaries written by the worlds leading biblical and historical scholars and every modern Bible version do not agree with you?
100% GUARANTEE ALL MODERN VERSIONS COMES FROM WESTCOTT AND HORT PERIOD OF THE 1880s. THEY USED THE CORRUPT VERSION AND GOT THEIR COMPLETE VERSION TO BE THE OFFICIAL CHURCH OF ENGLAND’S BIBLE. THE VATICAN ORDER THE CORRUPT VERSION TO BE ITS OFFICIAL BIBLE IN THE 15TH CENTURY. MODERN VERSIONS I CALL SATAN COUNTERFEITS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE. THEY TAKE CHRIST OUT OF JESUS SUBTLY AND BY READING AND RE-READING YOU ARE CONDONING YOURSELF TO BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE COMING DECEPTION THAT REQUIRES THESE MODERN COUNTERFEITS. I’LL NOT GO INTO MORE DETAIL HERE. ACCEPT TO SAY THE REASON YOU ASSUME MOST OF THOSE BIBLE CONDEMN GAYS EVEN BY USING THE WORD HOMOSEXUAL IN THEM HAS A HISTORY. IN 1850 AT A CLERGY CONVENTION IN THE USA 1 COR 6:9 AND TIME 1:10 WERE ADDED TO THE ANTIGAY DOCTRINE. THEY ALL AGREED THAT AS TAUGHT NO ONE WOULD GET TO HEAVEN AS IT WAS TAUGHT THAT MASTURBATORS WOULD NOT INHERIT AND THEY ALL AGREED EVERYONE DID THIS ACT. THEY ALSO AGREED TO FIND ANOTHER GROUP TO REPLACE MASTURBATORS AND GAYS OF COURSE WAS AN EASY PICK. IT HAD ALREADY BEEN A MAIN GROUP CONDEMN FOR 550 YEARS SO NO ONE WOULD REALLY CARE. FINALLY IN 1946-48 THE ACTUAL GREEK WORD FOR CATAMITE AND SODOMITE WAS REMOVED AND HOMOSEXUAL WAS INSERTED. IF YOU USE A MODERN VERSION I PLEAD WITH YOU TO STUDY BROWSE FOR WESTCOTT AND HORT THESE 2 WERE MORE EVIL THAN GETTING A COUNTERFEIT IN YOUR HANDS BUT ALSO CREATED THE GHOST CLUB WHICH IS A REQUIRED MEMBERSHIP FOR ANY WANTING TO BE IN THE ELITE LEADERSHIP OF ANTICHRIST’S KINGDOM.
THE WORD GAY EVOLVED CONSIDERABLY IN MUCH LESS THAN 100 YEARS, IT HAS RECENTLY UNDERGONE ANOTHER EVOLUTION IN MEANING TO SOMETHING NOT EVEN RELATED TO GAYS.
I am very much aware of the abuse of the word gay you are, it seems, an invaluable source of useless information, however, the word to which you refer is one that I only use for that which was originally intended, as I do with the term Sodomite.
SEEKING AND EXPLAINING TRUTH MEANS YOU TAKE THE TIME TO SHOW HOW WORDS AND GRAMMAR WERE USED IN BIBLE DAYS. USING CONDITIONING AS YOUR SOURCE IS HATRED FLAT OUT.
Where and what is this conditioning that you speak of and when did it take place my omniscient friend? Perhaps the conditioning in which I undertook caused amnesia, due to the extent of the lies absorbed by my brain?
FROM THE DAY YOU WERE BORN YOU WERE TOLD IN A MILLION WAYS GAY IS SIN. WHEN YOU ACEPTED JESUS YOUR PASTOR CONDEMNED GAYS AND AT POINTS YOU READ THE VARIOUS VERSES THAT WOULD EASILY FIT YOU PRE-CONDITIONED IDEA THAT GAY IS BAD. AND YOUR HORNY STR8 BODY COULD NOT FIND ANYWAY TO UNDERSTAND ANYTHING OTHER THAN STR8. YOU JUDGE OTHERS BY WHAT IS GOING ON BETWEEN YOUR LEGS AND IG YOUR MIDDLE LEG SAYS THIS IS RIGHT YOU TRANSLATE EVERYTHING TO THAT HORNYNESS YOU HAVE. MAY BE A FRANK WAY OF PUTTING IT BUT YOU LIVE IN A WORLD THAT HAS SO MANY FALSE DOCTRINES CREATED CENTURIES AGO. VATICAN IS SO INFLUENTIAL EVEN OTHER RELIGION USE THE BIBLE TO CONDEMN GAYS AND NOT THEIR OWN RELIGIOUS BOOKS. 100 YEARS AFTER THE ANTIGAY DOCTRINE WAS INVENTED THE PROTESTANT ADOPTED IT AND WHEN THE PURITANS CAME TO THE USA THEY BROUGHT AN MOST HEINOUS VERSION OF IT HERE. CENTURIES OF CONDEMNING GAYS BECAME LIKE YOU FINDING YOURSELF TALKING HAVING NO MEMORY OF LEARNING WHO TAUGHT YOU THE WORDS. IT IS CONDITIONED INTO YOU. ADDICTION TO DRUGS AND CIGS IS NOT SO EASY TO BREAK, IT IS SO COMMON THAT YOU FINALLY GET SET FREE OF THESE BECAUSE THEY CUT ONE OF YOUR LUNGS OUT OR DRUGS DESTROYED YOUR FAMILY ALWAYS IT IS PAINFUL TO GIVE UP YOUR CONDITIONING, YOU LOVE YOUR HATE IT IS NOT AN EASY TASK TO TELL YOU TO STOP LOVING SOMETHING YOU HOLD SO DEAR. YOU TELL YOURSELF IT IS YOUR GODLY DUTY TO CONDEMN GAYS AND IF YOU DIDN’T YOU WOULD BY PARTAKER IN THEIR SINS. YOU CAN’T SEE RAPE IS NOT ANOTHER WORD FOR GAY, YOU CAN’T TELL THE DIFFENRENCE IN SOMETHING SO SIMPLE AS PROSTITUTION VERSE A COUPLE IN LOVE.
GOOD! BECAUSE SO MANY HOMOPHOBE AUTO ASSUME GAYS ARE NOT MARRIED AND HEAP ONTO THEM THE SIN OF FORNICATION
Lets not get civil partnerships confused with true biblical marriage, ordained by God, as a homosexual, you can only commit fornication.
OK LET NOT GET IT CONFUSED LETS JUST SAY IT IS HOW COUNTRIES AND THE USA ARE GOING, IOWA NOW HAS GAY MARRIAGE, LET GO FURTHER LET ALL HAVE HUNDREDS OF CONCUBINES AND HUNDREDS OF WIVES AFTER ALL SOME OF THE MOST REVERED BIBLE FIGURE HAD THIS AND GOD DID NOT EVER CONDEMN THEM FOR IT. MOST OF ANCIENT ISRAEL WAS KEEP SEX IN THE FAMILY GOT TO MARRY A COUSIN. TRUE BIBLICAL MARRIAGE IS 2 FAILIES MAKE A BUSINESS DEAL (LOVE NOT REQUIRED) HOW TO HAVE THE MOST PROFIT. THE WIFE WAS MOSTLY A SLAVE BABY MAKER. SHE HAD NO PROBLEM OFFERING A SLAVE WOMEN TO MAKE A BABY FOR HER HUSBAND. 1000 YEARS OF CHRISTIANITY SEX WITH THE WIFE WAS TO MAKE A BABY. IF YOU WANTED PLEASURE GET A CONCUBINE WANT LOVE GET A MISTRESS. IF YOU DON’T WANT THE BABY TOSS IT ON SOME CHURCH DOOR STEP. YES YES COME ON TELL ME ABOUT THE HISTORY CHRISTIAN STR8S HAVE. BUT SOME HOW WITH ALL THAT IN OUR PAST YOU CAN SAY GOD ORDAINED SOMETHING, YOUR RHETORIC CONCERNING MARRIAGE IN NOT BASED IN THE BIBLE BUT IN PAGANS COMING TO CHRIST IN THE 12TH CENTURY. SO MANY SWARMED INTO CHRISTIANITY THEY BROUGHT THEIR FERTILITY MARRIAGE RITUALS WITH THEM. MARRIAGE CEREMONY AND RECEPTIONS ARE PURE PAGAN IN ORIGIN I’LL NOT GO INTO DETAIL HERE. SCAPEGOAT FOR HOMOPHOBES IS FORNICATION EVEN THOUGH NOW IT IS MANY CHURCH MARRY GAYS AND THE LAWS OF THE LANDS ARE CHANGING TO HAVE LEGAL GAY MARRIAGES. THEY CALL IOWA A CORE VALUES STATE WHILE MASS AND CALIF WERE EXTREMIST NOW WITH A CORE VALUE STATE SOON WASHINGTON WILL COME ROUND. YOUR MIND CAN’T ACCEPT GAYS MARRIED SO YOUR WAY OUT IS TO CALL IT FORNIATION. FORNICATION THEN WHY ARE YOU SO UNTHINKING ABOUT STR8 UNMARRIED FOLK, THEY HAVE NO EXUSE. PEOPLE LIKE YOU BAN GAYS THAT WANT TO MARRY BUT STR8s CAN MARRY YET IT IS NOT A VERY HOT TOPIC AMONST H OMOPHOBES.
In the words of our lord and saviour: Matt 19/4-6 have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female. And said, for this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put us under. NOW LET ME PICK OUT A VERSE SINCE YOU LIKE TO AND IN IF JUST AFTER YOURS
Matt 19:10
10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. (KJV)
AND ALSO HOMOPHOBES CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RAPE AND A COUPLE IN LOVE.
Dont be silly, Im sure they can, as you may know: rape is to commit a sexual act against ones will, and a couple in love are a couple who have intense feelings of affection for one or another, or choose to love one another, depending on the type of love described, whether Philia or agape, storge or thelema.
BUT IF GAYS LOVE WHY DO YOU SAY IT IS RAPE?
SO IT IS GOOD YOU DO NOT ADD INTO YOUR MESS A WHOLE OTHER TOPIC THAT IS NOT RELATED TO A LOVING CARING MONOGAMOUS LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP.
Sir, I am not the one in a mess here, I am certainly not the one who randomly mails people in an attempt to convert people with your abhorrent lies.
PEOPLE FROM INDIA SAY SIR I DON’T REQUIRE A TITLE CALL ME GAYS4JESUS I KNOW YOU SPECIFICALL SEEK OUT GAYS TO CONDEMN
If you are convinced that what you are doing is right, that you will not be judged at the throne for what you do, and you are happy, and you do not let it effect anybody else (though unfortunately you most certainly do) then why are you so concerned?
You are not persecuted, you do not live in Iran or Saudi Arabia, the full weight of the law is on your side!
So with all these things considered, why not take a little advise: do not contact people whom you accuse, are homophobes if you do not want your boat rocked or your bubble burst, which is exactly what I am going to do regarding this topic. This area of your deceptive ministry has already done extensive damage, and I will do my utmost to bring it down, perhaps you should have never contacted me.
I ACCEPTED JESUS IN JAN.1974 AT THAT TIME GOING TO CHURCH OR ANY CHRISTIAN SITE (THOSE DAYS BBS) ALL YOU WOULD HEAR IS GAYS ARE GOING TO HELL. AND TONS OF LIES. YOU SEE BEING GAY AND HEARING HOMOPHOBES TALK ABOUT GAYS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BE A GAY PERSON I AM ALIVE WITH MYSELF DAILY SO I KNOW MYSELF AND I KNOW WHAT THEY SAY IN NOT ABOUT REAL GAYS. IT IS LIES AFTER LIE AFTER LIE. TELL WAS IT IMPORTANT THAT SOMNE WHERE A BLACK STOOD UP AGAINST ALL ODDS TODAY WE HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT BECAUSE SOME BLACK SOMEWHERE TOOK A STEP. CHRISTIAN DEAD SET AGAINST BLACK RIGHTS AS WELL AS WOMENS RIGHTS. I SEE AND HEAR THOSE THAT ARE NOT A LUCKY AS I HAVE BEEN PLUS BEING ON TV IS LIKE I JUMPED FROM THE FRYING PAN INTO THE FIRE AS HOMOPHOBES ARE SO HATEFUL IN THEIR LANGUAGE TO GAYS.
But regarding your statement, it seems that I have already added to my mess as you will no doubt have already read.
And reference to the above statement: Long term relationship, yes, monogamous long term relationship, no.
(I HAVE BEEN IN A RELATIONSHIP AS OF THIS WRITING 20 YEARS IT IS SO DISGUSTING FOR HOMOPHOBES TO ASSUME THAT I IN A MONOGAMOUS RELATIONSHIP AM AUTOMATICALLY A RAPISTS OR A MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE)
Nobody has accused you of rape, or as working as a temple prostitute, although, am I detecting a little homophobia or perhaps discrimination towards male temple prostitutes? You should no better!
WHEN YOU USE GEN. 19 YOU ARE IN FACT SAYING ALL GAYS ARE RAPISTS AND SO YOU ARE DIRECTLY ACCUSING ME OF RAPE SINCE THAT IS THE FIRST YOU USE. WHEN YOU USE A BIBLE WORD FOR SODOMITE YOU ARE CALLING ALL GAYS MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES. BETTER BELIEVE IT IF YOU ARE A MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE YOU DON’T HAVE MUCH OF A LEG TO STAND ON CONCERNING BIBLE. IF YOU ARE A MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE YOU ARE WORSHIPPING OTHER gods AS WELL.
THIS IS REALLY SIMPLE FOR YOU TO PROVE THE HEBREW WORD SODOMITE IS USED 5 TIMES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT AND IN THE GREEK IT IS USED 2 TIMES. I GUARANTEE YOU YOU WILL NEVER FIND IN THE ORIGINAL HEBREW OR GREEK IN THE BIBLE THE WORD SODOMITE REFERRING TO THE PEOPLE OF SODOM PERIOD.
THE SEVEN USES 100% REFER TO MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES. HAPPY I WILL BE IF YOU TAKE TIME TO SHOW ME THAT THAT WORD MEANS PEOPLE OF SODOM. HOWEVER, HITTITES MOABITES, ETC ALL REFER TO PEOPLE OF THOSE CITIES/COUNTRIES.
So the bible uses the word sodomite as a generic term for homosexuals, due to being the most prevalent of the sins of Sodom, in this case you claim, homosexual prostitutes, which are also referred to in the bible as dogs, although, there was no mention in Genesis, or Judges, that the men of the city who set round about the house were temple prostitutes.
SODOMITE
6945 qadesh (kaw-dashe');
from 6942; a (quasi) sacred person, i.e. (technically) a (male) devotee (by prostitution) to licentious idolatry:
KJV-- sodomite, unclean.
OK SHOW TO ME WHERE IN THE HEBREW WORD SODOMITE DOES IT SAY HOMOSEXUALS (5 PLACES IN THE OT)
Let us not forget that Sodom was destroyed along with its inhabitants, therefore, there was no Sodom and Gomorrah, And therefore it could not be referring to the people of Sodom as being inhabitants of the city, but rather, people who portrayed their actions.
WISHING YOUR HATE INTO THE BIBLE FACTLESS AS USUAL
MANY CENTURIES LATER THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CONDITIONED MOST (YOU) TO AUTO ASSUME SODOMITE MEANS PERSON OF SODOM.
Or a person who portrays the former. And so its all down to those pesky Catholics? Well lets look at Gods toleration of those who depart from his pattern:
in the old testament God tolerates polygamy, although disastrous are its effects (look at the story of David and Jacob) even with the convent people and the most godly men we find examples of polygamy taking place. Secondly God tolerated divorce, and these both were permitted and regulated under mosaic law, even though they contradict Gods original intentions.
Is it not strange then that homosexual relationships were not tolerated? In fact homosexual relationships were strongly condemned under mosaic law.
IN FACT AS YOU SAY IS YOU ASSUMING ITS IN THE BIBLE, SO FAR YOU SHOWN ME GANG RAPE AND AN EXAMPLE OF MOSES’ CONDEMN STR8 MEN THAT GO TO MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES
Further to this there are absolutely no examples of homosexual relationships among godly people in the bible, (unless of course you believe that the rather vile, secret gospel of Mark is a reliable gospel, and Morton smith was not in fact a homosexual activist with an axe to grind)
MARK IS THE GOSPEL NOT SECRET YOU ARE MEANING THOMAS AND BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND BECAUSE YOU HATE GAYS SO YOU CAN’T SEE REAL GAYS IN THE BIBLE DOES NOT MEAN GAYS ARE NOT IN THE BIBLE IN A POSITIVE WAY. 3 HEBREW LEGAL GAY MARRIAGES OUTRIGHT A NUMBER OF DESCRIBED EVENTS THAT CAN ONLY BE GAYS BECAUSE STR8 MEN WOULD NEVER FOR ANY REASON BE IN SUCH A EVENT AND JESUS WITH HIS OWN MOUTH GAVE A GOOD REPORT ABOUT BORN GAYS PLUS JESUS HEALED A GAY MANS LOVER. BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW CUSTOMS OF JESUS’ DAY ABOUT MARRIAGES AND THOSE CONSIDERED MARRIED AND PHRASE USAGE OF HIS DAY ON HOW PEOPLE OF THAT DAY TALKED ABOUT THOSE THAT WERE MARRIED DOES N OT MAKE IT NOT IN THE BIBLE
BUT HEY SO WHAT ON TECH NOTES WE CAN INDEED CALL SODOMITES AS PEOPLE OF SODOM BUT THIS IS NOT USING THE BIBLE AS A STUDY TOLL BUT A CONVENIENCE TO FIT YOUR WISHES ON WHATEVER TOPIC YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT. AND YES 36 SOME YEARS LATER ONLY PLACES TO SEE IT MEAN THE PEOPLE OF SODOM IS VIA COMMENTATORS WHICH ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THEIR SOURCES.
Except for your bible commentary of course, which although goes against perhaps 98% of all other bible commentaries, must be right, because you say so, and it fits neatly into the solution to your predicament.
The word literally means "hallowed" or "sacred" and refers to the demi-god sacred prostitutes in pagan temples. The literal translation of this word does not imply that these prostitutes serviced persons of their own gender. Sodomite:sod-om-it (qadhesh, feminine qedheshah): Qadhesh denotes properly a male temple prostitute, one of the class attached to certain sanctuaries of heathen deities, and "consecrated" to the impure rites of their worship. Such gross and degrading practices in Yahwehs land could only be construed as a flagrant outrage; and any association of these with His pure worship was abhorrent (De 23:17 f): The presence of Sodomites is noted as a mark of degeneracy in Rehoboams time (1Ki 14:24). Asa endeavored to get rid of them (1Ki 15:12), and Jehoshaphat routed them out (1Ki 22:46). Subsequent corruptions opened the way for their return, and Josiah had to break down their houses which were actually "in the house of the Lord" (2Ki 23:7). The feminine qedheshah is translated "prostitute" in Ge 38:21,22; Ho 4:14; in De 23:17 "prostitute" (the King James Version margin "sodomitess," the Revised Version margin transliterates). The English word is, of course, derived from Sodom, the inhabitants of which were in evil repute for unnatural vice.
LOVE WOULD BE YOU DOING THE ABOVE RESEARCH AND SHOWING HOW THE WORD SODOMITE DOES NOT MEAN "MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE"
PLAY WITH THE WORD AS THOUGH YOU KNOW THOSE DAYS, CALL ALL THE HISTORIAN LIARS. SODOMITES WERE SACRED MALE PROSTITUTES AND THE ACT OF A STR8 MAN GOING TO A MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE WAS THE HIGHEST ACT OF RITUAL WORSHIP TO gods. THE FEMALE VERSION WERE LESS SACRED AND MEN WENT TO THEM. SO YOU WANT TO SAY SACRED MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE’S CLIENTS WERE WOMEN WOW WHAT A DISTORTION FROM THE TRUTH. THIS IS SUCH A WELL DOCUMENTED SUBJECT IT IS REALLY STRANGE YOU CAN COME UP WITH THE IDEA THAT WOMEN GO TO SACRED PROSTITUTES. ALSO TELL ME WHY THOSE SACRED MALE PROSTITUTES CUT OF JUNIOR. GAYS HAPPEN TO LIKE JUNIOR INTACT PLEASE. BUT IT WAS QUITE COMMON FOR MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE TO CUT IT OFF AND DRESS LIKE WOMEN FOR THEIR STR8 CLIENTS.
Thats exactly what I would call them too, this has been covered above.
YOU CANNOT WISH MEANING INTO WORDS
You can wish meaning into anything you desire, like the Bible for example, you can wish that it does not condemn the sin that you commit and refuse to give up, you can wish that it even condones it, however, do not expect anybody else to believe you when you try to sell it to the general public. Unless of course for there own self satisfaction, they want to believe it.
I AM AT LEAST GIVING MATERIAL YOU ARE GIVING STATEMENTS THAT GAY IS SIN AND NOTHING MORE, YOU WONDER OFF INTO DIVORCE AND OTHER VERSES NOT TIED TO THE 14 VERSES AND YOU JUST CAME UP WITH ABOUT AN ABSURD EXPLANATION AS I HAVE SEEN IN MY 36 YEARS AS A CHRISTIAN. A FIRST SOMEONE SAYING MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES WERE FOR WOMEN TO GO TO
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BLANKET" IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE WAY TO CAPTURE A GENERAL
Thank you, Ill suggest that to my superiors.
SINCE TO HEAP ONTO 650 MILLION GAYS TODAY. YOU WANT GAYS TO SEE GAY IS SIN YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT BETTER THAN USING BLANKET" WORDS.
The people of Sodom were homosexuals, Gen 13/13 but the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the Lord exceedingly
HOW WERE THEY GAYS?
5971 `am (am); from 6004; a people (as a congregated unit); specifically, a tribe (as those of Israel); hence (collectively) troops or attendants; figuratively, a flock: KJV-- folk, men, nation, people.
WICKEDLY:
7489 ra` a` (raw-ah'); a primitive root; properly, to spoil (literally, by breaking to pieces); figuratively, to make (or be) good for nothing, i.e. bad (physically, socially or morally): KJV-- afflict, associate selves [by mistake for 7462], break (down, in pieces), + displease, (be, bring, do) evil (doer, entreat, man), showself friendly [by mistake for 7462], do harm, (do) hurt, (behaveself, deal) ill, X indeed, do mischief, punish, still, vex, (do) wicked (doer, -ly), be (deal, do) worse.
ALSO HOW ARE TODAY’S GAYS OR JESUS’ DAY GAYS wicked?
Rom 1/27 the men leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men.. but they committed other sins, for example: rape, fornication etc.
lets just say that you are a homosexual (which we should now have established is a sin, or a least for the benefit of this exercise, lets pretend that it is) and poking your nose becomes a sin also, but you cannot keep your finger out of your nose, you cannot remove your homosexual label because of you are now a nose poker also, the most prevalent sin is where the label has to relate to, therefore you will be known as a homosexual rather than a nose poker.
AGAIN YOU ARE ONE SICK PERSON TO HEAP ONTO ANY HUMAN THE LIST OF SINS IN ROMANS. YOU HAVE NOT SHOWN IN THE VERSE REAL GAY PEOPLE. HOW CAN IT EVER BE POSSIBLE WITH YOU GETTING INTO A CRISIS TO SEE GAYS ARE NOT THESE EVIL PEOPLE OF ROMANS. YOU HAVE NOT ESTABLISHED ANYTHING EXCEPT YOU THINK GANG RAPE MEANS GAY & THAT MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES MEANS GAYS. YES INDEED YOU THINK GANG RAPIST MEANS GAYS SO OF COURSE EVERY GAY YOU SEE FOR YOU IS IN SIN BECAUSE TO YOU GANG RAPISTS IS ANTHER WORD FOR GAYS AND SO THE DILEMMA CONTINUES UNTIL YOU CAN SEE GANG RAPIST ARE A SET OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THIS HORRIBLE ACT. GAYS ARE NOT DOING THIS ACT. STR8s IN THE BIBLE AND IN REAL LIFE ACTUALLY DO RAPE MEN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO FORCE THIS RAPE AS A HEAPING OF THE MOST VILE THING AND THAT HAVING NO CONTROL OF WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING TO YOU. VERY SOON STR8s WILL AGAIN DO WORST THAN DARFUR IN THAT IN THE USA FOREIGN TROOPS WILL INDEED RAPE YOUR DAUGHTER AND WIFE IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE AND YOU WILL BE HELPLESS TO STOP IT, THIS IS THE PLANS OF THE COMING ROUND UP OF MAINLY CHRISTIAN TO RE-EDUCATION CAMPS
THESE MEN HAD NO QUALMS ACCEPTING THE MAN'S DAUGHTER INSTEAD TO RAPE TO DEATH.
I think you are getting slightly confused, are you referring to judges? In judges they raped and murdered his concubine, the men of Sodom refused the women as they were only interested in the homosexual rape.
OK AGAIN SO YOU REJECT STR8 BIBLE SCHOLAR’S REFER TEXT OF LIKE WORKS. I DID NOT REFER TO JUDGES THIS IS WHAT STR8 COMMENTATORS DID, IT IS THEY IN ABUNDANCE AS YOU LIKE REFERRING TO USING JUDGES AS EXAMPLES OF SAME ACTIONS OF HORRID SIN THAT OF GANG RAPING TO DEATH. THE WORST THING HERE IS YOU STILL WILL NOT LET LOOSE OF GANG RAPE MEANS GAY SEX THAT ORDINARY GAYS DO. IT IS UNTHINKABLE A DECENT PERSON CAN USE SUCH HORRID ACTS AS EXAMPLE OF GAY PEOPLE
GAYS ARE NOT GATHERING INTO GANGS TO GO RAPE ANYONE (STR8S DO THIS PLENTY OFTEN THOUGH).
Well they certainly did in the book of Judges did they not? And so another one of your sub intellectual assumptions spouts forth! Straight people often gather, into gangs to rape anyone! Really, I did not know this, please emphasise on this in your next thrilling letter.
GUESS WHAT GAYS DON’T WANT WOMEN SO YOUR STATEMENT GAYS GATHERED IN GANGS IN JUDGES IS KIND OF STUPID JUST LIKE WHEN STR8 HAVE THIS FANTASY OF BEING IN BED WITH 2 LESBIANS. THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE LESBIANS WILL NEVER BE IN BED WITH A MAN. NOW BISEXUALS IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL AND OFTEN HOMOPHOBES DON’T THINK IT MATTERS TO DISTINGUISH BE THEM AND GAYS. BISEXUAL NOT SIN IN ITSELF BUT THEY ARE THE MOST DAMAGING EXAMPLES TO USE CONCERNING GAYS, LONG STORY NOT GOING TO GO THERE NOW
But hold on a minute, do straight people rape men? No because that would be sex within ones own agenda, thus placing then neatly into the category of homosexuals. So that only leaves women and female children, that these so called gangs of men are raping plenty often and lets not get into paedophile statistics because thats another hard blow to the homosexual community.
93% OF PEDS ARE ST8 THIS IS A FACT. HOMOPHOBE LIKES TO INTRODUCE A SEPARATE ISSUE TO TRY TO MAKE GAYS ALL THE WORSE BUT AS USUAL LACKING THE STATICALLY RECORD FACTS OF THESE ACTS. I ALREADY TOLD GO TO PRISONS STR8 MEN DO RAPE MEN, BUT IN THEIR MIND THEY TURNED THOSE WOMEN INTO MEN. IF YOU LIKE CALLING THESE FACT A LIE REMEMBER TO MANY FACTS YOU NEED TO COVER UP ABOUT MEN RAPING MEN. IT IS A BIBLE DAYS FACT MEN RAPED MEN AS A DEGRADING FEATURE OF FORCING ONES POWER ON ANOTHER. ANOTHER DISGUSTING THING ABOUT YOU YOU ASSUME STR8s DON’T TO SAME SEX SEX AND YET HISTORY IS OVERWELMED WITH DETAILS ABOUT THIS
IT IS JUST NOT CONCEIVABLE TO IMAGINE TODAY ANY FATHER GIVING HIS DAUGHTER TO A GANG OF RAPISTS TO PROTECT ANY GUEST IN HIS HOUSE.
You are right to suggest that it seems inconceivable to give your daughter to gang of homosexual rapists, That goes to show what an abhorrent crime its was to commit a homosexual act with the guests of lot, (especially two angels) that he would rather risk his daughters than allow them to commit such grave sin.
IN LOT’S DAY THIS MAN AND LOT WOULD BE CONSIDERED QUITE HONORABLE BY TAKING CARE OF THEIR GUESTS. SO GIVING THE UNTHINKABLE TODAY YOUR DAUGHTER TO A GANG OF RAPIST WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO IN THOSE DAYS THOUGHT WE WOULD THINK THAT IS ABOUT AS ABUSIVE AS A FATHER COULD EVER BE TODAY. THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING GAYS YOU THINK IN MODERN VALUES AND CUSTOMS AND APPLY YOUR WAYS TO THE BIBLE, GOOD ABOUT THE BIBLE IT IS SOLIDLY BASED IN A TIME PERIOD THAT IS THE BEST TO STUDY. IN JESUS DAY AND THE MORE ANCIENT MOSES’ DAY IT COULD BE RECORDED IN A BEST PERIOD TO RETAIN FOR EVER INTACT THE BIBLE. ANY OTHER TIME IN HISTORY WAS MASSIVE PRONE TO EVOLUTION AND CHANGE OF VOCABULARY THAT QUICKLY RENDERS STUDYING EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.
WHY NOT INCLUDE IN YOUR STORY HERE ABOUT HOW LOT'S DAUGHTER'S GOT LOT DRUNK AND RAPED HIM AND BOTH HAD BABIES BY HIM.
You just have, thank you, however, I do not see that it has any relevance to the subject at hand.
OF CORSE YOU DON’T BECAUSE DAUGHTERS RAPING DAD IS MORE ACCEPTABLE AND RARELY DISCUSSED THOUGH IT IS LITERALLY AS THEY WERE WALKING AWAY FROM A CITY THAT JUST GOT BLOWN UP FOR SEXUAL IMMORALITY AS YOU LIKE TO SAY, THOUGH LATER VERSES SAY IT WAS DESTROYED FOR INHOSPITALITY DID YOU KNOW THAT? HEH HEH “NO REVELANCE” TIPICAL HOMOPHOBIC COMMENT
ARE YOU TELLING ME ALL GAYS CAN QUICKLY DECIDE IN THEIR RAPING TO RAPE A WOMEN IF THE MAN THEY WANTED WAS NOT AVAILABLE.
That is what the story in Judges suggests, but to test that today, well that would be difficult having such availability of homosexuals as a seemingly popular past time today. But have not some homosexuals married women as they were perhaps to afraid to come out of the closet therefore taking the next best thing.
Put a homosexual on an island with one woman for a lifetime and doubtless they would have sexual relations.
YOU ARE ONE SICK PERSON. THIS SHOWS THE DEPTH OF YOUR SICKNESS A WOMAN DOES NOT TURN SEXUAL DESIRABLE BECAUSE SHE IS THE ONLY ONE AROUND. THERE REALLY ARE BISEXUALS YOU KNOW YOU GOT THIS ATTITUDE IT IS GAY OR STR8 AND IT IS NOT THAT AT ALL. YES GAYS HAVE MARRIED, A GAY PERSON HAS ALL THE WORKING PARTS AND SOCIETY AND WELL SENT GAYS DEEP INTO CLOSETS, THEY SENT GAYS TO RESTROOMS AND PLACES ORDINARY UNSEEMLY I GUARANTEE YOU THESE CHARGES ARE PLACED DIRECTLY ON THE CHURCH AND SO YOU WILL SEE, BUT BEYOND THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GAYS NOT PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NO CHOICE LIVES AND HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO LIVE THAT NORMALLY IS NOT THE WAY THE WOULD HAVE LIVED IF THE CHURCH DID NOT AMPUTATE WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS AN UNCOMELY MEMBER OF THE BODY OF CHRIST. 700 YEARS THE CHURCH HAS TRIED TO LIVED WITH OUT THAT MEMBER. GOD GRAFTED GAYS BACK IN IN 1967. ANOTHER LONG STORY I BET YOU DON’T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT. GAYS ARE IN HISTORY AND I TOLD 3 LIBRARIES HAVE OVER A MILLION BOOKS ON GAYS SO YOU CAN READ ABOUT GAYS FICTION AND NON-FICTION. YOU GO AS DEEP AS YOU LIKE, MISSING IS ANY TIME OF GROUPS OF GAYS GETTING TOGETHER TO GANG RAPE, ONCE IN A WHILE YOU DO GET A STORY OF A GAY GONE MAD SERIAL KILLER, BUT HARDLY A DAY GOES BY THAT SOMEPLACE IS DEALING WITH STR8 GANG RAPE AND SERIAL KILLERS. DON’T LUMP ALL GAYS INTO THE ACTS OF A FEW.
PART OF TRUTH IS WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT IS NOT. IF REAL LIFE DOES NOT PRODUCE A RECOGNIZABLE ACT AS DESCRIBE IN THE BIBLE THEN THE BIBLE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT GROUP. YOU NEED TO FIND THE REAL GROUP THAT FITS THE BIBLE DESCRIPTION.
Well lets see, the group banging on the door were Jehovahs witnesses who wanted to know who the men were, so that they could convert them if need be, lot offered them his daughters but they didnt want any women in the ministry, so they subsequently became agitated knowing that they needed to meet their weekly quota of converts, they became more forceful with lot, so the angels blinded them.
Is that better? We can attempt change the meaning of anything if we wish (see above) though if it is not the truth, then it will probably fall apart under a minimal amount of scrutiny.
AGAIN, SIMPLE SOLUTION GO TO THE STRONG’S CONCORDANCE AND COPE PASTE THE MEANING OD SODOMITE. ALSO LOOK FOR STUDIES THAT USE ANCIENT TEXT DON’T JUST USE YOUR FAVORITE HOMOPHOBIC AUTHOR BUT TRY TO SEARCH OUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF SCHOLARS THAT ARE STR8 THAT HAVE RESEARCHED ANCIENT TEMPLES BUT AT LEAST START GIVING ME SOMETHING TANGIBLE. USE KJV PLEASE OTHERWISE OUR TALK WILL ONLY BE ON THE 1880s NOT GAYS. BY THE WAY TRUTH SETS YOU FREE SO SCRUTINY WILL SHOW THE LIES YOU BELIEVE ABOUT GAYS. THE MORE YOU DIG INTO THE GAY ISSUE THE MORE YOU WILL SEE YOUR BELIEF DOES NOT PAN OUT.
"TO KNOW" IN GEN 19 MEANS (2 LARGE PARAGRAPHS OF MEANING IN THE STRONG'S) TO FIND OUT WHY IS GOING ON, WHY ARE YOU HERE IN OUR CITY, RUMOR IS YOU INTEND NO GOOD FOR US (IE ABRAHAM'S CONVERSATION WITH GOD ABOUT GOD DESTROYING SODOM) NEWS SPREAD FAST IN THOSE DAYS AS WE READ IN MANY PLACES IN THE BIBLE THE DIFFERENT SIDE SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT THE OTHER SIDE WAS PLANNING.
Then may I suggest that you get a more reliable Bible commentary, because that is a rather poor attempt at the twisting of scripture, and it Is quite simply laughable when we start to analyse the chapter in more detail, but of course, you are very happy with your commentary, as acting as a seemingly intellectual umbrella of the truth, are you not?
but lets look at the word know in the very same paragraph:
Gen 19/8 behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you
Had lots daughters not known what was going on with men? why there were men? Or is it that they were virgins having not known man? Know clearly means to have sexual relations.
OK I GET IT THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD IS GOING TO HELL RIGHT? HOW EASY IT IS FOR YOU TO CONDEMN GAYS. I USE THE STRONGS SO YOU SAY GET A MORE RELIABLE, THIS DIRECTLY MEANS YOU CONDEMN THE WHOLE OF THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD. YOU KNOW THEM DON’T THEY GOT WORLD WIDE CHRISTIAN TV GOING THEY GOT BAPTISM IN THE HOLY SPIRIT GOING AFTER IT WAS SO WATERED DOWN OVER THE CENTURIES. SO TELL ME ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME TO GET A LEXICON LIKE ONE EX-GAY LEADER GAVE ME. IT TOOK HIM A YEAR FOR HIM TO FINALLY SEND IT TO ME. AND THAT WAS BECAUSE WE WENT TO THE SAME TV TALK SHOW THAT WAS ABOUT EX-GAYS AND I SAW HIM AND HE TIED TO DO A HI AND I INSTANTLY SAID WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO SEND ME YOUR AS YOU SAY MOST ACCURATE LEXICON ON SODOMITE. HEY WHO KNOWS MAYBE HE REALLY HAD A GOOD RESOURCE HE CLAIMED IT WAS THE BEST. WELL IT WAS MODERN ENGLISH DIRECTLY FROM THE WESTCOTT AND HORT BIBLES IT WAS SO BLATANTLY NOT ORIGINAL LANGUAGE RELATED. HOMOSEXUAL WAS A 1946 MODERN VERSION THAT CAME FROM TTHAT 1850 CLERGY CONVENTION. 9 GREEK WORDS IN PAUL’S DAY FOR GAYS, BUT PAUL USE A MANIPULATED FOR OF THE WORD FOR MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE THAT DID NOT LOOSE THE PAGAN gods CONNECTION. 76 TIMES IN DOCUMENTED HISTORY THAT WORD WAS USED AND WRITEN DOWN IN 1600 YEARS AFTER PAUL WROTE NEVER WAS IT USED FOR GAYS. WHY ARE YOU CONDEMNING ONE OF THE MOST WIDELY PRAISE WAYS TO KNOW THE ANCIENT MEANING OF BIBLE WORDS?
NOW IN THE BIBLE IS THE WORD "KNEW" IE KNEW HIS WIFE. THE HEBREW MEANING IS SEX, BUT THE "TO KNOW" IN GEN. 19 DOES NOT INCLUDE SEX IN ITS MEANING.
Really? in the words often written on my school reports of my secondary school teacher must try harder
Gen 19/8 behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you
THE HEBREW WORD KNOW IN Gen. 19
3045 yada` (yaw-dah'); a primitive root; to know (properly, to ascertain by seeing); used in a great variety of senses, figuratively, literally, euphemistically and inferentially (including observation, care, recognition; and causatively, instruction, designation, punishment, etc.) [as follow]: KJV-- acknowledge, acquaintance (-ted with), advise, answer, appoint, assuredly, be aware, [un-] awares, can [-not], certainly, comprehend, consider, X could they, cunning, declare, be diligent, (can, cause to) discern, discover, endued with, familiar friend, famous, feel, can have, be [ig-] norant, instruct, kinsfolk, kinsman, (cause to let, make) know, (come to give, have, take) knowledge, have [knowledge], (be, make, make to be, makeself) known, + be learned, + lie by man, mark, perceive, privy to, X prognosticator, regard, have respect, skilful, shew, can (man of) skill, be sure, of a surety, teach, (can) tell, understand, have [understanding], X will be, wist, wit, wot.
be diligent, (can, cause to) discern, discover, endued with, familiar friend, famous, feel, can have, be [ig-] norant, instruct, kinsfolk, kinsman, (cause to let, make) know, (come to give, have, take) knowledge, have [knowledge], (be, make, make to be, makeself) known, + be learned, + lie by man, mark, perceive, privy to, X prognosticator, regard, have respect, skilful, shew, can (man of) skill, be sure, of a surety, teach, (can) tell, understand, have [understanding], X will be, wist, wit, wot.
Yet I am not debating sex was planned it is just homophobes are so insistent that this word directly infers sex and litteraly it has no sex in its meaning. Of course raping to death was their plan
OF COURSE WE GOT PLENTY OF VERSES IN THE BIBLE THAT "TO KNOW" TO MAKE IT SEX IS NOT NECESSARY.
There are verses in the bible that do not refer to sexual relations, this I understand, but you have to recognise the context in which the passage is related, and the description of Lots daughters affirms this.
THIS WAS NEVER AN ISSUE WITH THE FIRST CORRESPONDENCE WITH YOU THE ISSUE WAS ALL THE BOYS ALL THE GRANDPAS ALL THE MALES AND ALL THE PEOPLE CAME TO RAPE TO DEATH THE 2 ANGELS, THIS JUST IS NOT WHAT GAYS DO, IF YOU THINK THIS IS GAY BEHAVIOR I AM WAITING FOR YOU TO SHOW ME SOME REASONABLE STATISTICS THAT GAYS ARE RAPING PEOPLE TO DEATH TODAY.
JASHUR WAS CONSIDERED TO BE IN THE BIBLE, BUT GENESIS WAS CHOSEN. JASHUR CHAPTER 19 IS ALMOST THE SAME AS GEN 19 BUT DETAILS THE IMMORALITY MORE.
Jasher was not included in the bible for very good reason, its if full of contradictions, wholly unbiblical and wildly imaginative.
These are just a few of the problems with the book of Jasher, not my works may I add, these are taken from another source:
THE POINT HERE WAS TO SHOW YOU PLENTY OF QUITE OLD WRITING WERE AVAILABLE AND MUCH OF IT WERE CONSIDERED GOD’S WORD BY CHRISTIANS FOR CENTURIES AT A TIME. TODAY WE ACCEPT AS WORD OF GOD WHAT CONSTANTINE ORDERED PRINTED. HE ORDERED MATHEW MARK LUKE AND JOHN TO BE THE GOSPELS HE TOLD THE CHURCH MAKE THE BIBLE, HIS GOAL WAS GET UNITY SO HE CAN CONTROL THE THROWN. UNLESS YOU AGAIN REJECT RESEARCHERS. LAST NIGHT THEY HAD A MOST UP TO DATE VERSION OF HOW THE BIBLE WAS ESTABLISHED. I KNOW THAT GOD ACTUALLY HAD EVIL CATHOLICS PUT TOGETHER THE BIBLE AT CONSTANTINE’S ORDERS. BUT THESE BOOKS AT LEAST FORTUNATELY WERE ALREADY IN LATIN VULGATE BY THE 2ND CENTURY SO IT WAS NOT CHANGING WORDS JUST WHAT WILL OF WILL NOT BE IN THE BIBLE. I ALSO KNOW THE BIBLE IS THE FOUNDATION TO WHICH ALL IF CONFIRMED BUT, BUT IT IS NOT ALL THERE WAS FROM GOD OR ELSE WE MUST KILL OUR PROPHETS TODAY. IF YOU GO TO CHURCH WHICH YOU HAVE NOT TOLD MY WHAT CHURCH YOU GO TO, BUT ASSUMING YOU GO TO CHURCH YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME IDEA THAT GOD DOES SPEAK THRU PEOPLE TODAY AND ALWAYS.
Jasher 13:5 says that Abram went to the land of Canaan at the age of 50 then back to Haran and back to Canaan at age 75, Genesis 12:4 states that Abram was 75 when he departed Haran.
Jasher 18:9 states that one of the angels tells Abraham that Sarah will have a son, but Gen. 17:16 says that God told Abraham.
Jasher 22:44-45 says the Lord got the idea of presenting Isaac as an offering from Isaacs boast to Ishmael. We know, of course, that God is sovereign and as it says in Gen. 22:1-2 & 12 that the Lord was testing Abraham.
Genesis 28:5 states that Isaac sent Jacob to Padan-aram unto Laban but Jasher 29:11 says that he fled to the house of Eber and hid there for 14 years.
Jasher 47:9 says Isaac dies, according to the chronology of Jasher, Joseph was in Egypt but in Gen. 35:29 Isaac died before Joseph had his dreams.
Simeon could not be bound in Jasher 51:37 but in Genesis. 42:24 Simeon is bound before their eyes.
Jasher 51:26-32 -- The brothers tell Joseph (whom they dont recognize) that they are looking for their brother (him). Genesis 42:6-14.
Jahser 78:12-13 -- Pharaoh proclaims no more straw but same amount of bricks (before Moses goes to Pharaoh.) Exodus 5:1,7-8 says it happened after Moses confronts Pharaoh.
Jasher 80:1 "and at the end of two years the Lord sent Moses to Pharaoh" while Exodus 7:14-15 says, "The Lord said unto Moses get thee unto Pharaoh in the morning.
Jasher 80:2-51 lists these Plagues;
1. Waters into blood (v. 3) / Exodus 7:20
2. Frogs (v. 6) / Exodus 8:6
3. Lice (v. 10) / Exodus 8:17
4. The Lord sent all kinds of beasts into Egypt and destroyed all Egypt ( v.13) / Not in Exodus
5. Fiery serpents, scorpions, mice, weazles, toads (v. 14) / Not in Exodus
6. Flies, hornets, fleas, bugs, gnats (v. 15) / Exodus 8:24
7. All reptiles and winged animals came and grieved the Egyptians (v.16) / Not in Exodus
8. God ordered the Sulanuth from the sea, she had long arms, 10 cubits in length and she went upon the roofs and uncovered the raftering and flooring and stretched forth her arm and removed locks and bolts and opened the houses of Egypt. (v. 19-21) / Not in Exodus
9. Pestilence (v.24) / Exodus 9:3
10. Burning inflammation (v. 27) / Not in Exodus
11. Boils (v. 28) / Exodus 9:10
12. Hail and fire (v. 30-31) / Exodus 9:23
13. Locusts (v. 33) / Exodus 10:13
14. Darkness (v.36) / Exodus 10:22
15. First born killed (v. 43) / Exodus 12:29
In Jasher 42:30-41, Rachel talks to Joseph from the grave. This is of course necromancy and is an abomination unto the Lord (Deuteronomy 18:11-12).
According to 53:18-22 Benjamin used a "map (or chart) of stars" to find Joseph. Deuteronomy 18:10 forbids this. It is an abomination to be "an observer of times" (astrologer).
Judah threatens Joseph 54:1-68 with annulations but Genesis 44:14-34 is a plea for Benjamins release.
Chapter 71 of Jasher states that Moses was 18 years old when he left Egypt. (Could this be Rabbinical tradition?) He didnt go to Midian but to Cush and becomes king (72:34-36) and is king over Cush for forty years (73:2), then he goes to Midian where Reuel puts him in prison for 10 years because Reuel thinks Moses is wanted by the Cushites. In the book of Acts (7:23-30) Stephen, inspired by the Holy Spirit, stated the Moses was in Egypt for 40 Years before going to Midian for another 40 years.
Jasher 81:3-4 claims that the Israelites sojourned in Egypt for 210 years whereas the Scripture says in Exodus 12:40-41 it was 430 years.
Jasher 81:40-41says that all but Pharaoh perished in the Red Sea. Pharaoh thanks the Lord and the Lord sends an angel who casts him upon the land of Ninevah where Pharaoh reigned for a long time. Scripture (Exodus 14:23 & 28) states that all perished.
Jasher 32:1-40 -- Esau comes to harm Jacob but angels of the Lord scare Esau, v.55 Esau fears Jacob. Genesis 33:3 Jacob bows seven times to Esau.
Jasher 43:35 -- Isaac went from Hebron to comfort Jacob, his son, because Joseph is dead (sold). Gen. 35:27-29 Isaac died before Joseph even dreamed his dreams.
Jasher 81:38 -- "And the Waters of the sea were divided into twelve parts." Exodus 14:22 "And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand and on their left."
There are the areas that seem to come from the imagination of the writer, such as Jasher 7:24-30; This passage says the skins that God made for Adam and his wife went to Enoch after their death, then to Methuselah, then to Noah, then Ham stole them and gave them to Cush. They were then passed to Nimrod who became strong when he put on the "magic" garments. Jasher 27:1-11 says that Esau kills Nimrod and takes Adams skins.
Jasher 36:30-35 -- 120 terrible animals from the wilderness came to the asses of Anan. Their shape was from the middle downward of the children of man, and from their middle upward some the likeness of bears, some keephas with tails behind them from between their shoulders reaching down to earth.
Jasher 61:15 -- Zepho kills beast, half man and half animal, "from the middle upward it resembled a man, and from the middle downward it resembled an animal."
Jasher 67:8-52 -- Balaam, Job, and Reuel in Egypt at the same time. Reuel takes Josephs stick and returns to Midian.
Jasher 70:1-33 -- At age 3 Moses puts Pharaoh's crown on his head.
Jasher 73 -- King Moses of Cush raises storks to devour serpents that guard city.
Jasher 77:26-51-- Moses beholds the sapphire stick (67:41) in the garden of Reuel with the name of Lord God on stick. (Adam took stick from Eden then it came to Noah, then to Shem, then to Abraham to Isaac, Jacob took it then in Egypt and he gave it to Joseph. After Joseph died Reuel took it and planted it.)
It is obvious that "The Book Of Jasher" is certainly not inspired by the Lord. I heartily disagree with the those in the introduction of the volume that claim "they find nothing in Jasher that contradicts the Bible. Therefore, I can only conclude that while Jasher is an interesting book to read, the reader must be very discerning as to the truth of all or any of the writings in Jasher.
YOU STILL WANT TO PLAY LIKE YOUR 5 YEARS GIVES YOU ALL YOU NEED TO DETERMINE WHAT IS OF GOD AND WHAT IS NOT. SO YOU NOT ONLY CONDEMN GAYS YOU ALSO CONDEMN COUNTLESS CHRISTIANS THAT FOR LENGTHILY PERIODS ONLY HAD BOOKS NOT IN THE BIBLE TODAY AS THEIR BIBLES. BUT MANY CHRISTIANS DON’T GIVE A HOOT ABOUT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT DID IN FACT ACCEPT JESUS BUT WERE NOT AROUND ANY BOOKS THAT MADE THEIR WAY INTO THE BIBLE. GOD ACE UP HIS SLEEVE IS HE WRITE HIS LAWS ON TABLETS OF FLESH SO OTHERS SHOULD NOT JUDGE. YOUR JOB IS KEEP YOUR FAITH TO THE END NOT DETERMINE ANOTHER’S SIN. IF SOMEONE CLAIMS CHRIST YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT, YOU CAN ATTEMPT TO SAY YOU WITNESS WHICH MEAN WHAT ACTUALLY IS YOUR LIFE. OTHERWISE SO FAR YOU HAVE SHOWN NO EXPERIENCE TO BE A TEACHER OF THE BIBLE LET ALONE HUMAN CONDITION. I MENTIONED JASHUR AND YOU GO SPECIFICALLY OUT TO FIND THAT BOOK AND LOOK FOR SOMETHING YOU COULD ARGUE AGAINST INSTEAD OF HEAR THE WORDS I SAY THAT SUCH WERE THE BOOKS USED AS BIBLE BY MANY AND WHAT HELP DIVIDE PEOPLE OF GOD INTO SEPARATE GROUPS TO BICKER OVER DOCTRINE. UNLESS YOU SHOW ME SOMETHING THAT GIVES ME AN IDEA THATYOU HAVE PLENTY OF PAST EXPERIENCE AND READING AND INVESTIGATION INTO THESE ANCIENT WRITINGS THEN WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS READING IT AND EXPRESSING YOUR UNEDUCATED OPINION. AS FOR ME JASHUR IS ONE BOOK THAT IS ANCIENT AND IT GIVE CLUES TO LIFE IN ANTIQUITY THAT HELPS UNDERSTAND MANY THINGS. I NEVER EVER SAID I TAKE ANY OTHER BOOK TO BE GOD’S WORD EXCEPT THE BIBLE (KJV). OTHER BOOKS ARE INFORMATIVE TO TIMES WE DID NOT EXIST IN. THE BIBLE SAY NOTHING ABOUT PLUTO SO I GUESS IT REALLY IS NOT THERE. IT ALSO SAY NOTHING ABOUT THE EARTH AND SUN ON DEC. 21, 2012 WILL LINE UP WITH THE CENTER OF THE MILKY WAY. IF YOU LIVED A FEW HUNDRED YEARS AGO YOU WILL BE KILLED PERHAPS IF YOU BELIEVED WHAT TODAY WE KNOW AS FACT. OTHER BOOKS CONTAIN INFO THAT TELLS A STORY. SOME PARTS ARE TRUE OTHERS ARE NOT. BUT OF COURSE YOU WILL STEER ALWAYS FROM THE GAY ISSUE WITH RHETORIC TO AVOID THE ISSUE OF HOW DO YOU GET SODOMITE TO BE GAY. SO FAR YOU JUST STATE IT, YOU DO NOT USE HISTORIC FACT OR HEBREW MEANINGS YOU JUST WANT IT TO BE GAYS.
IT WAS HORRIBLE RAPING OF VISITORS OR THOSE KIDNAPPED FROM NEARBY CITIES. WHO REALLY CARE ABOUT THE AS IT WERE SEX ACT? THE ACT WAS EVERY BOY, EVERY GRANDPA, EVERY MALE AND INCLUDING "ALL THE PEOPLE" OF 2 CITES COMING TO RAPE TO DEATH 2 ANGELS. ANOTHER NOTE NOBODY IN THESE CITES WERE PEOPLE OF GOD. THEY ALL WERE PAGANS.
That fact that they were Pagans is again irrelevant to the subject.
IT IS NOT IRRELEVANT BECAUSE IT IS ALL THE CITY DID NOT ACCEPT GOD. YOU ARE TELLING ME IF A CITY THAT HAS EVERYONE STR8 BUT ARE PAGAN BUT MARRIED LIKE YOU IT WOULD MAKE THEM SAVED? PAGAN ARE NOT OF GOD AND HAVE NO LAWS OR ANYTHING THE HEBREW HAD AND SO IT WOULD MATTER NOTHING WHAT THEY DID THEY HAD NO RULES. FACT IS FACT THEY WILL GO TO HELL FLAT OUT NO MATTER HOW GOOD THEY WERE OR HOW EVIL THEY WERE, YOU EVEN QUOTED VERSE THAT SAYS IF THE WORKS JESUS DID IN A CITY WAS DONE IN SODOM SODOM WOULD BE SAVED. IT IS RELEVANT.
LOT'S DAUGHTERS WERE ENGAGED IN SOME WRITINGS AND ACTUALLY MARRIED IN OTHER WRITINGS.
Which writings are these? The secret gospel of mark again? The da vinci code? Or are these also in Jasher?
I am a little perplexed as to why you have started to include books other than the Bible to bolster your claims within the Bible, are you now scraping the barrel for morsels of supportive information?
ENGAGED THEY WERE IN GENESIS MARRIED THEY WERE IN JASHUR FOR ONE. MY POINT WAS THEY WERE STR8 MEN IN SODOM THERE WAS REGULAR COMMERCE IN SODOM ABRAHAM EVEN SAVED SODOM AND ITS KING AND RETURN ALL THE BOOTY (BOOTY IS SODOM COMMERCE STOLEN BY THE WARRING FACTION)
GREAT AND SO IT WAS GOD LEGAL FOR BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO HAVE SEX AND BABIES TOGETHER,
Legal? It was an absolute necessity in order to procreate, however you must understand the problems that it would cause biologically if it was permitted to continue.
Though being a self proclaimed expert in the various disciplines of science, you will understand fully what ills I speak of.
Lets look at gene mutation, something that I believe didnt happen until after the fall, the 23 pairs of chromosomes were very good Gen 1/31 however gene mutation could cause serious problems regarding incest. Lets just say that the father had a deleterious gene in chromosome 21, and the mother had a normal functioning gene within chromosome 21, the mothers good gene would prevent a possible disease from occurring, however, if the mother is your sibling, then there is a strong possibility that she too has a deleterious gene within chromosome 21, and that is just the beginning of the problem.
WELL SO GOD CHANGES LAWS ONCE YOU COULD HAVE SEX WITH YOUR SIBLINGS THEN ONLY COUSINS HMMM. BUT CAN YOU GIVE TO ME THE VERSE GOD SAID NO MORE SIBLING SEX? MANY CHRISTIANS HATE THE THOUGHT OF THE SIBLING SEX AND DON’T TALK ABOUT IT OR SAID SOMEHOW OTHER WERE THERE AND YES THERE IS PLENTY STORIES TO BACK UP TAILS OF OTHERS WE KNOW OTHERS EXIST BECAUSE WE SEE THEM ON “LOST”
God is truly amazing, How someone could deny the divine authority of the Bible, I just cannot understand.
ANOTHER HATE REVELATION OF HOMOPHOBES IS THE LIE THEY TELL THAT GAYS DENY THE DIVINE AUTHORITY OF GOD. THE ATTACK OF HOMOPHOBES IS DIRECTLY AT EVERY THING THAT JESUS SAYS HE CAME TO GIVE THOSE THAT ACCEPT HIM. WHAT YOU DO IS RIP EACH GIFT FROM GOD AWAY, YOU TEAR AT THEM TRYING TO DESTROY THE SOULS OF CHRISTIANS. THAT WHY YOU THAT THINK GAY IS SIN IS SUCH A HORRID DISOBEDIENT PEOPLE. YOUR PURPOSE IN LIFE IS TO STEAL FROM INNOCENT ONES ANYTHING GOD HAS GIVEN TO THEM AND YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING GOD’S SERVICE. I HAVE TOLD YOU OFTEN OF THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT SAY THE OPPOSITE IF YOU DID NOT KNOW I WAS GAY YOU WOULD ABSOLUTELY TELL ME TO MY FACE SOON AFTER YOU BEGAN TO KNOW THAT GOD IS WITH ME YOU WOULD ALSO BEGIN ASKING QUESTION BECAUSE YOU WOULD SENSE I KNOW THE ANSWERS TO SOME OF YOUR HARDSHIPS. (I BET I DO AND I CAN HELP AND HEAL YOU) BUT YOU SAW THE WORD GAY IN MY NAME AND SO YOU RUINED YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE FROM GOD HIS HELP THROUGH HIS SERVANT.
THAT DOES GO WELL TODAY DOES IT?
A statement followed by a questioning of the same statement?
YEP
ALSO THE WORD "RIB" ACTUALLY MEANS IN HEBREW "CELL FROM THAT RIB" SO
STEVE WAS IN THE DNA.
Is that the best you can do? Where in the base pairs was Steve hiding? The DNA, as I expect you know is the blueprint as such for the make up of that individual, Steve could only be the child of Adam.
Though why I have even bothered to answer this ridiculous question I do not know.
YOU ARE AGAIN TRYING TO ACT LIKE YOU KNOW DNA SORRY YOU ARE VERY LAME YOU CAN’T EVEN UNDERSTAND SOMETHING SO SIMPLE, YOU LOVE THE JOKE GAD DID NOT MAKE ADAM AND STEVE BUT GO BANANAS THAT STEVE WAS IN THE DNA. SCIENCE HAS COME A LONG WAY AND I LOVE DOCUMENTARY ON DNA AND READING SCIENCE ON DNA. IT IS A JOY FOR ME TO LEARN ABOUT LIFE. I WAS A ATHEIST FOR 23 YEARS AND THAT TIM I HAD A DEEP HUNGER FOR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE WORLD AND LIFE SO I READ TONS FROM MANY SOURCES AND PRETTY HEAR THE LATEST DISCOVERIES CONCERNING THE CELL. NOT SAYING I AM AN EXPERT BUT I KNOW ENOUGH TO KNOW YOU ARE NOTHING SO FAR CONCERNING DNA AND THAT BLUEPRINT. 10% GAYS IS NOT A GUESS. SAYING STEVE IS IN THE DNA IS NOT A DEBATE THE JURY IS NOT OUT THE VERDICT IS IN SORRY YOU HAVE NO SAY ABOUT THIS TOPIC BECAUSE HAD YOU ANY SENSE ABOUT DNA YOU WOULD KNOW IT IS QUITE AMAZING AND WHEN I SAID STEVE WAS IN THE DNA YOU WOULD NOT BE ABOUT TO MAKE A COME BACK LIKE YOU DID. WASTED TIME TALKING MUCH SCIENCE WITH YOU YOU ARE IN THE DARK AGES SORRY FACT IS FACT AND THE FACT IS YOU HATE GAYS AND NO AMOUNT OF INFO WILL CHANGE YOUR MIND. YOU WILL CONTINUALLY DIG UP SOME EXCUSE TO BASH GAYS AND ANYTHING THEY TELL YOU. YOU SHOULD SIT BACK AND ASK YOURSELF A QUESTION WHY IS THIS GUY SO SURE GAY IS NOT SIN.
ABOMINATION IS A HEBREW WORD (ALSO A GREEK BIBLE WORD IN THE NT) IN ALL THE OT ABOMINATION IS USED MANY TIMES IN DIFFERENT FORMS OF THE SAME WORD. EACH HAS A HEBREW MEANING AND EACH MEANS ACTS DONE RELATING TO WORSHIPING OTHER GODS. ONLY ONE VERSE IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE USES A FORM OF THE WORD ABOMINATION THAT MEANS "HATED DISGUSTED THING" THIS IS WHAT HOMOPHOBES NEED IT TO MEAN IN LEV. CHAPTER 18 AND CHAPTER 20, BUT THAT WAS NOT THE HEBREW WORD USED. SO BY USING ABOMINATION YOU THEN ARE FORCED TO INCLUDE THESE GAYS (IS REALLY GAY) HAD TO BE HAVING THIS SEX AS A WORSHIP TO GODS. YES INDEED WELL DOCUMENTED MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES BOTH IN PAUL'S DAY AND MOSES' DAY WERE EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO HEBREW MEN WHOP FREQUENTED THEM. THE WORD MAN IS NOT A SIMPLE WORD FOR MAN. HEBREW IS DIFFERENT THAN ENGLISH LIKE GREEK A WORD IN ENGLISH MAY HAVE ONE WORD TO MEAN MANY THINGS AND SO THE SENTENCE MUST CONTAIN THIS EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT IE SORT OF L O V E IT IS. WE ALL KNOW THIS FOR GREEK. HEBREW'S WORD MAN IS LIKE THIS AND THE FORM OF THE WORD USED IN LEV. IS "PRACTICING STR8 MAN". ALSO THE WORD FOR WOMANKIND HERE IS DIRECTLY RELATING TO A SEXUAL IMMORAL WOMEN NOT A WIFE OR GIRLFRIEND. YES YES YES STR8 HEBREW MEN IN PAUL'S DAY AND MOSES' DAY DID FREQUENT MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES. 13 POSSIBLE TRANSLATION TO ENGLISH EXIST FOR THIS VERSE(S). 3 COULD BE SIMPLE MAN AND MAN, BUT THIS WOULD RENDER THE SENTENCE GRAMMAR UN-RECOGNIZABLE TO A HEBREW READER. THE OTHER 10 WAYS ARE PERFECT IN GRAMMAR AND MEAN THE MAN WAS A STR8 MAN THAT PREVIOUS HAD SEX WITH WOMAN AND LIKED IT.
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind, it is an abomination. Neither shalt though lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith; neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: and the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomited out her inhabitants.
Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgements, and shall not commit any of these abominations: neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that so journeth among you:
So let me get this straight, not only God does condone the act of homosexuality, he also condones bestiality, as both of these are abominations used in the same paragraph describing the very same act.
You are saying that homosexuality and bestiality are ok as long as they do not relate to worship? So Gods original plan has gone from Adam and eve to Adam and anything that moves?
And what about the thou shalt not? surely this cannot be dismissed?
TYPICAL HOMOPHOBE CAN’T DEAL WITH JUST GAYS SO THEY GOT TO TAG ON ANY OTHER SEX ACTS. YOU ARE NOT SATIFIED WITH CALLING GAYS RAPISTS YOU HAVE TO SAY THEY ARE LIKE HAVE SEX WITH ANIMALS. I ALREADY EXPLAIN LEV. SO I WON’T AGAIN HERE.
He says do not defile yourselves in any of these things. He calls it iniquity and the land vomited them out.
Does this really paint a positive picture to you?
THE PICTURE IT POINTS IS HOW TERRIBLE YOUR HATE IS IT IS SO OVERCOMING YOUR THINKING YOU CANNOT RECOGNIZE THE LIGHT WHEN YOU SEE IT. YOU HAVE TO ASSUME GAY IS SIN TO APPLY EXTRA VERSES. YOU HAVE ASSUMED GAY TO BE SIN BASED OF GANG RAPE AND MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES AND STR8 MEN GOING TO MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES SO YOU ASSUME YOU CAN THEN ADD ANY VERSE YOU PLEASE TO MAKE GAYS EVEN MORE EVIL APPEARING WHEN IN REAL LIFE GAYS ARE VERY OPPOSITE THE PICTURE YOU PAINT OF THEM
Further to this straight men cannot have visited male prostitutes, as that would render them homosexuals, as I am sure you are aware, homosexuality means to have sexual relations with ones own agenda.
BISEXUAL CAN HAVE SEX BOTH WAYS GAY DON’T UNLESS SITUATION DEMANDS THEM TO GO AGAINST THEIR NATURE SO THEN THEREFORE THEY ARE IN DANGER OF THE VERSE YOU LOVE ABOUT GOING AGAINST NATURE. CONSEQUENSES OF GOING AGAINST YOUR GAY NATURE ALMOST ALWAYS LEADS TO DIVORCE AND PAIN USUALLY EVEN DECADES CAN GO BY WHEN THEY NO LONGER CAN BARE THE LIE THEY LIVE AND HAVE TO BUST IT OUT IN FRONT OF KIDS AND SPOUSES. TRY READING TESTIMONIES OF GAYS THAT TRIED TO BE STR8.
SO ALL GAYS TODAY WANT SEX WITH ANGELS?
You are asking the wrong person.
SORRY ALL GAYS ARE BEHAVING IN THIS MANNER. THEY GROW UP GET A JOB MEET SOME ONE AND MARRY.
No they have a legal contract. Please do not try to make a mockery of my marriage by comparing that of a civil partnership
MANY DO LIKE MANY STR8S, THE 1ST 2ND AND 3RD DOES NOT WORK OUT SO THEY TRY AGAIN FOR MR OR MRS RIGHT JUST LIKE STR8 PEOPLE.
Thank you, I do understand the concept.
IN JUDE THE CLOSEST TO A GAY PERSON YOU CAN GET IS FROM THE WORD FOR IMMORALITY. LOOKING AT THE GREEK WORD'S MEANING TO FIND GAYS IN IT YOU FIND A ANCIENT LIST OF SINS FOR THAT GREEK WORD. LISTED IN THAT LIST IS "MALE PROSTITUTE" NOW THIS IS NOT MEANING A GAY PROSTITUTE. IN THOSE ANCIENT DAYS GAY PROSTITUTES WERE RARE AND SOCIETY DID NOT FORCE GAYS INTO NEEDING TO SEARCH OUT PROSTITUTES SO THE MALE PROSTITUTES WERE STR8 MEN THAT WOMEN PAID FOR SEX WITH. THIS WAS QUITE ACTUALLY COMMON IN PAUL'S DAY.
See above for the meaning of strange flesh.
AGAIN NO CONNECTION TO GAYS IN JUDE EXCEPT FOR YOUR WISHING GAY IS SIN.
IF IT WERE SO CLEAR WHY NOT EXPLAIN HOW YOU GET GAYS INTO IT? NOT EVEN ON SENTENCE YOU WROTE SHOWS HOW YOU GET GAYS INTO TO A VERSE. YOU JUST ASSUME GAYS ARE THERE. TELL ME HOW CAN I OR OTHER GAYS SEE WHAT YOU SEE SO CLEARLY IF YOU DON'T SHOW US HOW YOU GOT GAYS INTO BEING SO CLEARLY CONDEMNED. YOU MAY THINK YOU KNOW GAY IS SIN, BUT I STILL DON'T KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T TAKE TIME TO SHOW WHAT MAKES A WORD DESCRIBE GAYS. RAPE IS NOT A WORD FOR GAYS,
Its not even just words, ok for the purpose of this exercise I want you to ignore the name Sodomite completely, and look at what the bible says.
Cor 6/9 know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.shall inherit the kingdom of God
And so there is only one other place you could go.
1 Tim 1/9 knowing this , that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for menslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind..
This once again refers to the mosaic law.
MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE IS NOT A WORD FOR GAYS. TELLING THE VILENESS OF ROMAN'S 1:28-32 WHEN REAL LIFE SHOWS GAYS BEHAVE VERY OPPOSITE THOSE VERSES SURE CAN'T MAKE A GAY PERSON SEE HOW YOU TALK ABOUT THEM.
See above.
i AM A MANAGER IN A LARGE STORE IN FACT TRUSTED WITH THE KEYS AND CODES TO EVERYTHING. HOW DOES A VILE PERSON GET SO TRUSTED?
Adolf Hitler was considered an evil, racist mass murderer, as was Joseph Stalin and many other world leaders, Obama is a democratically elected pro infanticide leader of the most powerful country in the world. Vile people often are in power, this again has no relevance to the subject.
You, however are not a vile person, only the sin you commit is such.
WHY then DO CHRISTIANS AROUND THE WORLD FEEL SO SURE JESUS IS WITH ME WHEN I AM WITH THEM IN CHURCH OR ANYWHERE? WHY DOES GOD DO SO MUCH IN MY LIFE AND ANSWER SO MANY PRAYERS AND GIVE ME SO MANY MIRACLES? WHY IS JESUS PRESENCE SO STRONG. WHY DOES JESUS REACT INSIDE ME SO QUICKLY WHEN I TALK TO HIM. WHY OFTEN WHEN I GET INTO DETAIL IN PRAYER SOMETIME BEFORE I FINISH I GOT THE ANSWER OR RIGHT WHEN I GET TO WORK IT IS AS THOUGH MY BOSSES HEARD ME AND HAD THE ANSWER WAITING AS I WALKED IN. I CAN GO ON FOREVER ABOUT THE PERSONAL BLESSINGS IS AM RECEIVING AND MY LOVER? COME ON TELL ME YOUR ANSWER, I HAVE HEARD MANY HOMOPHOBES TRY TO PUSH OFF THEIR REASONS WHY I STILL AM BLESSED EVEN THOUGH I AM IN A GAY RELATIONSHIP.
Probably because he is, we are all sinners, every one of us, Jesus loves us for who we are, not for what we do, we still have to account for your actions on the day of judgement.
LOTS OF AS IT WERE JUDGMENT’S CORRECTIONS WILL BE DURING A 1260 PERIOD IN THE FIRST PART OF THE TRIB. BUT THIS TOO OS OFF TOPIC WE ARE STILL NOT DEALING WITH THE 14 VERSES BUT ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND YET YOU SAY SO MANY THINGS ABOUT GAYS THAT SIMPLE JUST DO NOT DESCRIBE GAYS.
What have I stated in such error?
TELL A MURDERER HE SINS BECAUSE HE KILLED SOMEONE AND YES YOU CAN SHOW MANY VERSES TO CONDEMN THOSE ACTS AND YOU CAN SHOW THE EVIL IN DETAIL IN THE BIBLE AND OUTSIDE THE BIBLE ON MURDERERS,
Yes they are often listed amongst homosexuals, for example: 1 Timothy.
2 PLACES IN THE NT USES THE WORD arsenokoites:
733 arsenokoites (ar-sen-ok-oy'-tace); from 730 and 2845; a sodomite: KJV-- abuser of (that defileself) with mankind. NO OFTEN PLACES. Arsenokoites HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED IN FULL WRITTEN DISCOURSE 76 TIMES IN 1600 YEARS BY CHRISTIANS AND NEVER WAS ANY OF THOSE REAL USES BY CHRISTIAN IN THOSE 1600 YEARS WAS IT RELATING IN ANY WAY TO GAYS. THE MOST OFTEN USE WAS FOR SEX OUT OF SPECIES. SO YOUR FOUNDATION TO CONDEMN GAYS WITH THIS WORD BEGAN AFTER THE CATHOLICS INVENTED THE ANTI-GAY DOCTRINE AND EVEN AFTER THE PROTESTANTS ADOPTED THAT DOCTRINE.
BUT GAYS YOU CANNOT FIND GAYS MEETING YOUR DESCRIPTION IN THE VERSES YOU USE. HELP ME OUT HERE SHOW ME WHAT IS THE BEHAVIOR I AM DOING. TELL ME WHY CHRISTIANS PROPHESYING CANNOT SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT ME, BUT RAVE ON AS GOD TELLS ALL LISTENING WHAT MARVELOUS THING GOD HAS FOR ME? i CAN GO ON FOREVER THE GOOD THING GOD HAS DONE AND CHRISTIAN SEEING FIRST HAND GOD'S WORK IN MY LIFE. YET YOU REFUSE TO CHECK ANY GAY CHRISTIAN'S TESTIMONY OUT.
I do not doubt that God is working in you life, thats great.
BUT YOU CANNOT EXPLAIN IT CAN YOU? OTHER LIVING IN SINS GENERALLY HAVE A WELL DEFINED LIFE THAT THE ONLY BLESSINGS ARE IN THE LINE OF AT TIMES GOD TRYING TO DRAW THEM TO JESUS AND YOU JUST DO NOT SEE WORKS BEING DONE BY PEOPLE LIVING IN SINS (SINS THAT ARE WELL DEFINED IN THE BIBLE, NOT CHRISTIAN CREATED SINS)
I have not refused to check out any homosexuals testimony, I am starting to get the impression that you have me confused with somebody else, you have made a substantial amount of allegations toward me.
THAT IS EASY TO CHECK-OUT SINCE I AM AN EXPERT ON GAYS AND EX-GAYS IT WOULD BE A SIMPLE THING FOR YOU TO TELL ME ABOUT GAYS TESTIMONY. KEEP IN MIND WHILE GOING TO ASSEMBLIES OF GOD I ALSO SPENT ABOUT 10 YEARS GOING TO GAY CHRISTIAN CHURCHES SO BESIDES ONLINE GAY CHRISTIANS AND GAY CHRISTIAN WEB SITES I KNOW PERSONALLY 1000s OF GAY CHRISTIANS AND PERSONALLY SEEN 10s OF 1000s ALSO A GREAT STR8 AUTHOR WHO SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WORKING IN THE LARGEST EX-GAY MINISTRY IN SAN FRANCISCO WENT TO THE CHURCH I WENT TO AND I HAD HER ON MY TV PROGRAMS MANY TIMES. BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR PERSONAL HEARING OF GAY TESTIMONIES AND ALSO COULD YOU THROW IN EX-GAY LEADER’S TESTIMONIES? I WOULD LIKE TO COMPARE THEM WITH THE 200 LEADERS I HAVE TESTIMONIES ON.
I TELL YOU THINGS FROM WHAT I LEARN FROM RESEARCH AND THAT ARE FACTS ABOUT REAL GAYS.
Where have you done so?
MY PERSONAL RESEARCH, DECADES OF FIRST HAND INTERVIEWS OF MANY 1000s OF GAYS AND ABOVE I ALREADY TOLD YOU WHERE I SAW AND SEE REAL GAYS. ALSO I TOLD YOU THERE ARE MILLIONS OF BOOKS ON GAY HISTORY AND GAY LIFE. THE VERY FIRST PERSON THAT BEGAN RESEARCH ON GAYS IN THE LATE 40s WHO WORK AT A INSTITUTION THAT TREATED GAYS AS IT WERE A DISEASE. SHE HAD SEVERAL GAY FRIENDS AND BEGAN TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT AS SHE GOES TO WORK TRYING TO FIX GAYS WITH HER MANY COLLEGE WHILE SHE WENT OUT WITH HER GAY FRIEND THAT WERE WELL ADJUSTED CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITY , HAD GOOD JOBS AND ATTITUDE AND OTHERWISE NOT MENTALLY FITTING CURRENT THOUGHT ABOUT THE GAY CONDITION IN PSYCHOLOGY. SO FINALLY SHE STARTED STUDYING HEALTHY GAYS, LONG STORY SHORT TODAY GAYS ARE NOT ON THE SICK LIST IN THE PSYCHOLOGY FIELD. THERE ARE SO MANY WONDERFUL BOOKS OUT GAYS WROTE ABOUT THEIR DEALINGS WITH BEING GAY IN A WORLD THAT HATED THEM. YOU SEE WHEN YOUR STR8 CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE CONDEMNING SAYING IT IS SIN GAY CHRISTIANS JUST DO NOT ACCEPT JESUS AND LOVE LIES, THEY REALLY DO WANT TO SERVE THE LORD AS YOU CLAIM YOU DO. GAYS DON’T JUSTIFY THE RESEARCH AND STUDY AND SEACH AND SEEK AND FIND ANSWERS. THEY KNOW THE LIES TOLD THEM BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU. SO MANY GAYS GET AN EXTRA DOSE OF JESUS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE INTENSE STUDYING. YOU SEE THEY ARE GAY AND IF IT IS SIN THEY DON’T WANT TO LIVE IN SIN BUT WA LA CAN’T CHANGE THAT JUST DOES NOT WORK ALREADY TOO MUCH INFO ABOUT THOSE THAT TRIED. SO HOW TO GAYS DEAL WITH IT. THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE AND SO THEY FIND THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH OFTEN IS NOT THAT HARD I.E. SODOMITE (7 OF THE 14 VERSES) IS A MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE AND GAY ARE NOT MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES AND PERCENTAGEWISE THERE ARE FEWER GAY STREET PROSTITUTES AS THERE ARE STR8 PROSTITUTES. IF YOU USE LIES TO SAY GAY IS SIN THAT DOES NOT WORK VERY WELL TO GAYS BECAUSE GAYS ARE LIVING THEIR LIFE SO THEY KNOW A LIE ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING WHEN A HOMOPHOBE TRIES TO TELL THEM THAT IS WHY IT IS SIN.
i SHOW YOU THE GREEK AND HEBREW WORD MEANING AND THINGS ABOUT PAUL AND MOSES.
You showed me a very questionable opinion that contradicts the opinions of the majority of the worlds leading biblical scholars, this hardly constitutes a verdict of error on my behalf.
THE LEADING SCHOLARS OF THE WORLD AS YOU SAY GO THROUGH THE SAME HOMOPHOBIC COLLEGES, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. 700 YEARS IT HAS BEEN TAUGHT GAY IS SIN. WHAT DO YOU SUPPOSE IS TAUGHT ABOUT GAYS WHEN YOU ARE IN COLLEGE BECOMING A PASTOR OR A MINISTER OR TO GET A DEGREE IN THE BIBLE AND ITS LANGUAGES? SOME OF THE MOST SCHOLARED HEBREW AND GREEK PROFESSORS HAVE REFUSED TO GIVE ME ANSWERS ON THEIR EXPERTISE ON THE BIBLE AND THE LANGUAGES. I HAVE BEEN REFERRED TO KENNETH COPELAND ONCE AS AN EXAMPLE TO GET THAT ANSWER THAT HE THE HEBREW BIBLE SCHOLAR WAS NOT INTERESTED OR WILL NOT SPEND THE TIME ON THAT TOPIC. I STILL HAVE THE LETTER FROM COPELAND’S VICE PRECEDENCE (BY THE WAY SUPPORTIVE OF GAYS HE TOLD ME) BUT SENT ME THE MINISTRIES POLICY ON GAYS AND IT WAS NOT SCHOLARLY AND NOT INFORMATIVE AT ALL. JUST THE SAME YOU ARE GOING TO HELL IF YOU DON’T CHANGE NOT A HINT AS TO HOW DID KENNETH GET GAY INTO A VERSE.
6945 qadesh (kaw-dashe');
from 6942; a (quasi) sacred person, i.e. (technically) a (male) devotee (by prostitution) to licentious idolatry: KJV-- sodomite, unclean.
REALLY REALLY HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE HEBREW IS SO HARD TO FIGURE OUT THE MEANING. ABOVE IS QUESTIONABLE ACCORDING TO YOU. THIS IS WHY YOU NEED A CRISIS IN YOUR LIFE BECAUSE YOUR BLINDNESS CAN’T LET YOU SEE A WORD ORIGINAL MEANING FROM THOSE ANCIENT DAYS.
ANOTHER THING ABOUT PAUL HE TOURED A FERTILITY TEMPLE IN CORINTH BEFORE WRITING ROMANS. IN THAT TEMPLE WERE OVER 1000 TEMPLE PROSTITUTES AND THAT STATUE TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. THESE ARE FACT.
Wonderful.
SEE YOU MOCK FACT, THE WRITER OF VERSES YOU CLAIM MEANS GAY IS SIN HAD FRESH IN HIS MIND HIS TOUR INTO THIS ABOVE TEMPLE. AND YOU SEE NO ASSOCIATION. SOMEHOW YOU ASSUME GOD WHISPERED IN PAUL’S EAR AND SAID WRITE YOUR FEELINGS ON GAYS. WELL IN PAUL’S DAYS THERE STILL WERE 10% GAYS AND 10 OR MORE GREEK WORDS FOR GAYS AND PLENTY OF GREEK LITERATURE IN THOSE DAYS ABOUT GAYS HOWEVER, PAUL DID NOT ASSOCIATE HIS DESCRIPTIONS TO THOSE REAL GAYS NOR DID PAUL USE ANY OF THE KNOWN GREEK WORDS FOR REAL GAYS. PAUL’S CHOICE FOR A WORD WAS FROM THE HEBREW ASSOCIATED WORD FOR MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE WHICH PAUL SEEN NEARLY DAILY. A FERTILITY TEMPLE ON EVERY CORNER. I WAS JUST IN ROME AND I DID A TV PROGRAM FROM SUCH A TEMPLE ACTUALLY I DID A FEW FROM OTHER TEMPLES TOO IN ROME. WE DO NOT SEE ANY WRITING RELATING TO PAUL’S WALKS AMONGST THE REAL GAYS OF THAT DAY AND SO NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU DIG YOU WON’T BE ABLE TO FINE PAUL’S GAYS BECAUSE PAUL DID NOT WRITE ABOUT THEM HE WROTE ABOUT THE HEBREW MEN GOING AFTER OTHER gods. DON’T YOU GET IT THE PROBLEM WAS GOD’S PEOPLE GOING TO OTHER gods AND THIS WAS THE UPSETNESS PAUL WAS DEALING WITH NOT YOUR LOCAL GAY COUPLE GOING SHOPPING IN THE MARKET PLACE.
ALL YOU DO IS TELL ME YOU SEE IT CLEARLY AND QUOTE A VERSE THE SAYS GANG RAPE OR THE LIKE.
The latter, it was a group of men, intent on committing homosexual rape, which makes them without question, homosexuals.
(See top of page)
REPEAT GAYS DON’T DO SEX WITH WOMEN. BISEXUALS MIGHT AND BISEXUAL IS A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE NOT SIN IN ITSELF BUT THE ROOT OF HEYDAY FOR HOMOPHOBIC CONDEMNATION LIES ABOUT GAYS. YOUR WAY TO CONDEMN GAYS IS SEE A MALE TO MALE SEX ACT SO WE SHOULD USE YOUR METHOD IN COMPARABLE STR8 SEX ACTS AND WA LA THE BIBLE IS SO FULL OF STR8 IMMORALITY THE STR8 MUST BE SIN, SOMEHOW YOU KNOW FOR STR8s GANG RAPE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MARRIED SEX OR EVEN DATING SEX. SO YOU SEPARATE THE STR8 GANG RAPE AS A SINFUL IMMORALITY WHILE YOU RAISE HIGH THE SAME SEX ACTS BUT WITH A STR8 COUPLE MUTUALLY HAVING IT. WHY CAN’T YOU SEPARATE SAME SEX GANG RAPING AND A SAME SEX COUPLE YOU SURE CAN WITH STR8s.
WHY DO YOU ACCEPT A PASTOR'S SERMON GOING INTO LIKE DETAILS ABOUT JESUS, BUT WHEN A GAY PERSON PRESENTS YOU WITH SIMILAR INFO CONCERNING GAYS YOU SAY "RECONSTRUCT" HEY YOU WON'T EVEN TRY TO SHOW MEANING ORIGINAL WORD MEANING OR HISTORY OR REAL LIFE.
I never accept a pastors sermon without first confirming it through my own research, especially if it appears to be contradictory to the bible, lets face it, didnt you say you had a ministry?
The reason I have accused you of such things is because this is exactly what you have done, you are trying to convince me that you are right and everyone else is wrong and I cannot even begin to see where you have a case.
You claim to be convinced, but are you? I cannot emphasis enough on the importance of this matter for you, be very sure that you are.
I AM TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU TO STUDY AND LOOK AT THE 14 VERSES AND COMPARE IT TO REAL GAY BEHAVIOR HONESTLY. IF I A M COMMITTING GANG RAPE ME AND MY LOVER THEN CERTAINLY CONDEMN ME AND RELATE WHAT I DO TO SODOM. BUT IS I AM IN A ONE TO ONE LONG TERM LOVING RELATIONSHIP WITH MY LOVER THEN JUDGE IT TO BE A GAY COUPLE AND SO THEN SEE IT IS NOT DESCRIBED IN SODOM. BUT YOU CAN’T YOU SEE MEN(PLURAL) TO MEN(PLURAL AGAIN) SAME SEX IN A ORGY SETTING OR A RAPING SETTING AND YOU SAY THAY IS THE SAME AS I AM DOING.
I NEVER WILL EVER PLAN TO BE PERFECT IN MY WRITING OR GRAMMAR. WHAT I SAY IS ENOUGH TO GET YOU THINKING ABOUT YOUR WORDS WHILE YOU CONDEMN GAYS.
I get a basic understanding of what you are trying to explain however, for someone so intelligent, I would have expected a lot better. Despite this, there is no excuse for writing str8, that is simply laziness and something that I would expect from a 13 year old in a text message, not a sixty two year old self proclaimed intellect.
But yes it does get me thinking and helps me to study aspects of scripture which in turn will aid me to help homosexuals in searching for the truth.
THIS INDICATES THE WORST YET IN YOU WHAT A SHAME YOU REVERT TO CONDEMNING HOW ONE SPEAKS. PERSONALLY I THINK PEOPLE THAT WANTS TO BE PERFECT IN EVERY ONE ARE DISGUSTING. PERFECTIONISTS AND WORKAHOLICS ARE MY PET PEEVE. YOU WON’T LISTEN TO ME IF I WERE PERFECT OR NOT IT IS JUST ANOTHER EXCUSE YOU HAVE TO CONDEMN GAYS. YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINE.
SHORT TIME I BEEN ON YOUTUBE I GOT 50,000 VIEWERS, HEY I AM A NOBODY AND CAN’T PUT TOGETHER ANYTHING BUT I GOT 50,000 DO YOU? MY TV PROGRAMS GOT OVER 800,000 VIEWERS THAT I COULD COUNT IN THE 1ST 4 YEARS I AM NOT IN MY 24TH YEAR AND NOW IT AIRS TWICE A WEEK. MY TV PROGRAM HAS BEEN SEEN BY AT LEAST ONE PERSON IN EVERY COUNTRY. THERE ARE ABOUT AT A MINIMUM 20 OR SO PASTORS IN OTHER COUNTRIES BEGGING ME TO GO PREACH SOME TELL ME IT WOULD TAKE THEM 4 DAYS TO GATHER 10,000 PEOPLE TO HEAR ME. TEMPTING BUT MY CALL STILL IS RIGHT HERE WHAT I AM DOING. PERHAPS WHEN I RETIRE I WILL GO PREACH FOR THEM. REMEMBER THESE ARE STR8 PASTORS INVITING ME SO I DON’T NEED YOUR ADVICE TO GET PERFECT I AM FINE WHAT I DO . I AM TELLING YOU THIS ONLY AS TESTIMONY HOW GOD IS USING A NAME LIKE GAYS4JESUS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN SAY TO STOP WHAT HAS COME TO PASS. I AM JUST ONE NOBODY AND YET GOD IS AMAZING AND TO THINK I REALLY DID NOT DO ALL THAT MUCH EXCEPT SPEAK AND WRITE IN AN UNPERFECT MANNER.
GOD NEVER ASKED ME TO SPELL RIGHT, THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINE.
No, this is your problem, you will do well to find a spelling mistake in my letters.
AS A MATTER OF FACT I AM USING WORD 2007 AND IT SHOWS MANY MISSPELLED WORDS OF YOURS AND I DO INDEED CORRECT MOST OF MY LITTLE RED SWIGGALLY LINES
IS IS ALSO BECAUSE I A GAY THAT THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO ATTACK ME?
Please, stop acting like a victim, this is not contributory selfish stupidity and an unnecessary diversion from the topic.
IT SEEMS YOU ARE THE VICTIM OF YOUR OWN HATRED SINCE YOU FIND YOURSELF TALKING TO A GAY PERSON. REMEMBER WHAT I SAID YOU ARE A TOOL I HAVE REALLY VERY LITTLE RESPECT FOR A PERSON THAT CAN CONDEMN 650 MILLION PEOPLE GIVING THEM NO POSSIBLE HOPE IN GOD. NOT EVEN IN THE SLIGHTEST AT ANY TIME OF YOUR CONVERSATION WITH ME HAVE YOU EVEN HAD ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLED THINK OF ME AS A PERSON OR EVEN FOR A SECOND REACTED TO ANYTHING I HAVE GIVEN YOU AS MY TESTIMONY IN CHRIST JESUS. ALL YOU HAVE DONE WAS JUSTIFY YOUR HATRED TO ME. IT IS YOU THAT STAYS AWAY FROM THE 14 VERSES I AM ALWAYS TRYING TO GET YOU BACK ON THE TOPIC THERE ARE ONLY 14 VERSES AND BEFORE YIOU CAN GO TO OTHERS YOU GOT TO DEAL WITH THE 14 AND SO FAR YOU ARE NOT YOU WANT SO BADLY THAT GAY BE SIN ALL YOU CAN DO IS SAY GANG RAPE IS A PERFECT COMPARISON TO A GAY COUPLE’S LOVE SIMPLE BECAUSE IT IS SAME SEX SEX.
WHY NOT INSTEAD USE YOU ELOQUENT WRITING AS I GUESS YOU ARE CLAIMING TO EXPLAIN HOW YOU GET GAYS INTO A VERSE INSTEAD OF SAY THE VERSE AND ASSUMING YOUR MEANING IS CLEAR.
Its far from eloquent although I am able to string a simple sentence together.
BUT NOT ANY ON YOUR SENTENCES STICK TO THE 14 VERSES AS NOW YOU HAVE GONE FAR OFF THE BEATEN TRACK, YOU WROTE ME I AM ONLY RESPONDING TO WHAT YOU WROTE
WATCH THEM AND SEE.
Fortunately I cannot do such a thing as I got rid of my television a long time ago, I have children to consider and cannot allow them to be conditioned to the days current agenda.
however as a matter of interest, on which programme and channel are you on, I will do my best to get access in order to watch them.
FIRST HINT YOU ARE NOT A NORMAL CHRISTIAN IT IS REALLY A SICK PERSON THAT FEELS NEED TO GET RID OF TELEVISION. HTTP:///SCANTV.ORG 7AM SUNDAYS OR ON MY WEBSITE. MAYBE THAT IS WHY YOU STILL HAVE NOT GIVEN YOUR BACKGROUND IN CHURCH. SO FAR THOSE THAT DON’T SHOW A BACKGROUND TURNS OUT TO BE IN A CULT CHRISTIAN CHURCH OR SAYS THEY DON’T NEED TO FELLOWSHIP WITH THE SAINTS THAT THE BIBLE IS GOOD ENOUGH, YET YOU USE MODERN VERSIONS. WHAT MANNER OF KIDS ARE YOU RAISING ARE YOU TEACHING THEM TO HATE? SOUND TO ME LIKE HINTS OF YOUR TRUE NATURE ARE COMING THROUGH BET IF WE HEARD YOUR TESTIMONY IT WILL COME UP WITH SOME OF THE REASONS YOU HAVE TO BE SO HATEFUL TOWARDS GAYS. IT IS REALLY REALLY REALLY SICK WHEN A PERSON DECIDES THEY NEED TO TOSS THE TV. WHAT IS THE MATTER CAN’T YOU TEACH YOUR CHILDREN ABOUT JESUS AND SET A BIBLE READING TIME AS A FAMILY, RAISE THE CHILD IN THE WAY THEY SHOULD GO AND THEY WILL NOT DEPART FROM IT. TV IS NOT THE ENEMY. YOUR CHILDREN WILL NOT BE PREPARED TO ENTER THE WORLD UNDER YOU GIVE THEM VACCINES. WHY SHOULD YOU NOT WATCH A CERTAIN SHOW. IT COULD BE A PERFECT MEANS TO CONVEY SATAN VERSES JESUS SO YOU KIDS WILL RECOGNIZE JESUS OR SATAN, BUT YOU PLAN TO SEND THEM OUT INTO THE WORLD AND WHAT DO YOU SUPPOSE THEY WILL DO THEY WILL RUSH OUT AND BUY A TV FIRST THING. AND THEY WILL BE STARVED TO DO ALL THE THINGS YOU BLOCKED OUT OF THEIR LIVES. YOU ARE THE FATHER IT IS YOUR JOB TO PREPARE YOUR CHILDREN TO LIVE IN A WORLD THAT WHEN THEY REACH IT AND LEAVE YOU THEY WILL BE PREPARED FOR WHAT’S COMING. IT IS NOT GOING TO GET BETTER. THE NOT HAVING A TV IS THE HUGE SIGN THAT YOU ARE IN A LIFE THAT SHUT YOU OUT OF THE REAL WORLD. YES TV IS FULL IF EVIL BUT ALSO OF GOOD AND ALSO YOU CAN LEARN MUCH AND BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE BIBLE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISCERN AND GLEAN THINGS OF VALUE. BUT TO USE THIS AS PROTECTING YOUR CHILD IS A MISTAKE IT WILL BACKFIRE GUARANTEED. IT IS VERY VERY POSSIBLE ONE DAY THEY WILL COME TO YOUR DOOR AND TAKE YOUR CHILD. THERE ARE PLANS OUT THERE, I GOT LOTS OF 1ST HAND INFO BESIDE THE RIFF RAFT. IT WON’T BE LONG AND THEY WILL BE AT YOUR DOOR AND THEY WILL SPLIT YOUR FAMILY WILL YOUR CHILDREN BE READY? YOU WILL NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN TILL HEAVEN, THIS IS THE PLAN AND GOAL AND IT COMES BEFORE THE RAPTURE. SCARY THING YOU ARE DOING TO YOUR KID(s). BUT THAT IS BASED ON YOU DON’T HAVE A CHURCH AND YOU TOSSED YOU TV. TV IN ITSELF IN NOTHING BUT THE TOSSING IT HAS SIGNIFICANT MEANING ABOUT YOU. STATISTICS DO MATTER AND YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THAT YOU DID GROUP YOURSELF IN A CLASS OF PEOPLE THAT HAS KNOWN TRAITS. AND IT IS NOT THE NORM FOR YOUR EVERY DAY CHRISTIAN BUT IS IN A “YOU CLASS YOURSELF IN YOUR OWN LITTLE WORLD AND EVERYONE ELSE IS PRACTICALLY GOING TO HELL” GROUP. PERHAPS YOU ARE NOT TO FAR GONE BUT AGAIN YOU DON’T TALK ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND.
YOU WANT A PAUL CROUCH WHO HAS TURN HIMSELF OVER TO HELPING ANTICHRIST'S KINGDOM COME INTO POWER SORRY I AM A VOICE SPEAKING THAT SOME MAY HERE. YOU ARE THE ONE CHOOSING NOT TO LISTEN. I TOLD YOU EXPLAIN YOUR VERSES HOW YOU GET GAYS (REAL GAYS) INTO THEM. I WILL LISTEN TO YOU, I KNOW YOU CAN'T AND WON'T EXPLAIN ANYTHING TO ME. ALL YOU WILL DO IS STATE GAY IS SIN SAYING THIS OR THAT VERSE IS ALL YOU NEED TO STATE.
Well hopefully this letter will suffice.
IT SUFFICES IN AS MUCH AS YOU NEED A CRISIS TO OVERCOME YOUR HATRED OF 650 MILLION INNOCENT AS CHARGE PEOPLE.
PLEASE PLEASE DON'T GO STUPID ON ME. I WAS NOT BORN YESTERDAY AND I KNOW FAR MORE ABOUT SCIENCE AND BIOLOGY AND RE CONSTRUCTIVE WORKS AND WHO ARE DOING THEM THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW.
Thats a rather arrogant statement, how could you possibly know how much I have learnt thus far and how much I will learn on the given subject in the future?
BECAUSE YOU DO GO STUPID ON ME AND YOU DO NOT GIVE ANY BACKGROUND ON YOURSELF. AND CRISIS IN YOUR LIFE IS THE ONLY AVENUE YOU HAVE TO SEE THE TRUTH, SORRY NOTHING PERSONAL THIS IS JUST A FACT.
Please allow me to shine a light on your error of assumption, I am currently studying for a doctorate in biology and my aim for a masters degree in molecular and cell biology.
So please do not make wild assumptions and lets try to stick to the script.
YOU ARE DOING “F” WORK SINCE YOU THINK GAY IS SIN AND YOU DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT DNA YOU MUST NOT BE LISTENING. SO YOU ARE EXPLAINING TO ME YOU ARE NOT A GOOD STUDENT EVEN IN COLLEGE, BY THE WAY IS IT A CHRISTIAN COLLEGE OR SECULAR COLLEGE, HOW DARE YOU GO TO A SECULAR COLLEGE AFTER ALL YOU TOSSED YOU TV AND CHRISTIAN COLLEGES WILL NOT TEACH YOU FACTS ABOUT GAYS. BIOLOGY IS VERY INTERESTING, YOU BETTER DIG INTO HOW IT EFFECTS GAYS. YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SEEN THE RECENT DOCUMENTARY ON TV BECAUSE YOU TOSSED IT BUT THEY HAD A SUPER TECH UPDATED VERSION ON WHAT IS LOVE AND THE BIOLOGY OF LOVE. INCLUDING A MRI OF THE SEX ACT. DISGUSTING TO SEE 2 STR8 PEOPLE STUCK TOGETHER IN THE MRI BUT THE PURPOSE WAS TO SHOW HOW EVERY THING IS WORKING FROM THE BRAIN DOWN . THIS WAS A FIRST EVER OF A COMPLETE MRI DURING THE SEX ACT FROM HEAD TO TOE TO SEE WHERE AND WHAT GETS INVOLVED. LONG STORY SHORT ON THE 2 HOUR DOC IS HOW HET REACT AND WHY. WHAT GLAND SECRETE AND WHEN AND WHY. THE GIST WAS IF YOU ARE MALE YOU WILL RESPOND TO FEMALE SECRETIONS FROM VARIOUS GLANDS. A WOMAN SEE A MAN AND WILL CHANGE HER WALK, TESTING WAS DONE WORLDWIDE AS I SAID A 2 HOUR DOC. I AM RUSHING OVER IT WITH FEW DETAILS. WOMAN OVULATION WILL CAUSE A IN SHORT GET HORNY. SHE WILL BEGIN TO LOVE THE SMELL OF A MAN’S ARM PITS AND A PROCESS OF EVALUATING A MATE IS GOING ON BY THE 2, THEY BREAK DOWN THESE STEPS IN DETAIL AND CONNECTED EYE MOVEMENT OF BOTH SEXES AS THE ARE DETERMINING WHAT MATTERS. WOMEN AND MEN HAVE DIFFERENT DETERMINATION AS TO WHAT IS A GOOD MATE. THAT IS ENOUGH THERE I WILL GET TO CONCLUSIONS, THIS STUDY BASICALLY PROVE YOU ARE BORN GAY BECAUSE THE STUDY SHOWS A MAN AND WOMAN THAT ARE STR8 HAS TO REACT AS THE DO BECAUSE GLANDS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN CHOICES THEY SIMPLE SECRETE. PLUS OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE BIOLOGICAL THAT FORCES MENTAL CONSCIOUS ACTIONS. LOVE IS GREAT BUT YOU ARE IN BIOLOGY NOW SO WHAT I AM TELL YOU WAS AIRED THIS WEEK AND SO YOU ARE TODAY IN COLLEGE SO YOU CAN FIND OUT SINCE YOU PLAN THIS SORT OF DEGREE. I AM SAYING THAT HETS MEET DATE MARRY BECAUSE BIOLOGY OF BEING STR8 CAN BE SHOWN IN MRIs AND OTHER SCIENTIFIC PROCESSES IN THE BRAIN. THEY KNOW THE SPOTS IN THE BRAIN THAT ACTIVATES. IN ONE WAY IT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE WE HAVE LITTLE CHOICE BUT TO HAVE SEX. WELL NEARLY 7 BILLION PEOPLE NO WONDER HUH. SO TELL ME HOW CAN GAYS NOT BE EFFECTED BY THE INVISIBLE TO THE EYE BIOLOGICAL REACTIONS GOING ON. YOU ARE BECOMING A BIOLOGISTS TELL ME. IN MY BODY I REALLY NEED TO DESIRE WOMEN BECAUSE THE GLANDS OF WOMEN SHOULD BE DRIVING MY GLAND BONKERS. OF COURSE THE BIOLOGIST EXPLAIN EACH STEP AS A STEP ON HOW WE ARE SEEKING OUT THE BEST MATE TO INSURE THE SUREST HOPE TO HAVE A SERVING RACE. WOMEN NOT SO STRONG NEED TO FIND A MAN TO TAKE CARE OF THEM AND A MAN WANT HIS JOY STICK SATISFIED THE WOMAN GOES INTO ATTACKING A MAN MODE OFTEN EVEN THOUGH SHE IS MARRIED IT IS BIOLOGY TESTED. SO WHY DO GAYS HAVE NO SUCH FEELING ABOUT WOMEN JUICES BEING SPREAD AROUND THE AIR, OR HER SEX MODE WALKING. I AM MAKING LIGHT OF THE DEEPER DETAILS OF THE STUDY TO ASK YOU IF SCIENCE WHICH NOW YOU ARE TELLING YOU ARE SPECIFICALLY LEARNING SHOWS SCIENTIFICALLY MALE AND FEMALE GOT BIOLOGY THAT IS CHOOSING THE ORIENTATION OF STR8NESS. THEN WHY AREN’T GAYS BEING MALE AND FEMALE ATTRACTED TO THE OPPOSITE SEX? SO THIS REQUIRES AN EXPLANATION SINCE IT IS PROVABLE ABOUT HET ATTRACTION BIOLOGICALLY SPEAKING THEN SO GAYS ARE ATTRACTED TO EACH OTHER BECAUSE OF THESE SAME BIOLOGICAL PROCESSES THAT MAKE SAME SEX JUICES APPEALING, MEANING GAYS ARE BORN GAY AND NO CHOICE EXIST. SO YOUR WISH TO CONDEMN GAYS SO GAYS MUST NOT HAVE GAY SEX BECAUSE YOU SAY IT SIN YOU NEED TO STOP HAVING SEXD BUT KEEP YOUR WIFE WITH YOU IN ALL HER APPEALING MANNER BUT YOU JUST DON’T HAVE SEX WITH HER, SAY TAKE A YEAR OFF FROM HAVING SEX WITH HER THEN COME BACK TO ME TELL ME HOW YOU FAIRED, YOU WANT GAYS TO STOP SEX OR START HAVING IT WITH WOMEN, SO HEY HOW ABOUT THIS ONE WHY DON’T YOU STOP WITH THE WOMEN AND START WITH THE GUYS TEL ME HOW THAT WORKS FOR YOU WELL YOU SEEM TO WANT GAYS TO CHANGE SO CAN YOU? SAME PROCESS YOU ARE ASKING FOR. HOW DOES THE MONKS FAIR IN CATHOLIC CHURCH OVER THE YEARS, SEEMS AS THOUGH THEY HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME NOT HAVING SEX AND GET INTO PLENTY OF TROUBLE, RULES FOR PASTOR ARE HAVE A SECOND PERSON WITH YOU IN PRIVATE MEETINGS. YOU SEE YOUR WORM GETS YOU INTO TO SO MUCH TROUBLE IT IS A WONDER EVEN MARRIED WITH REGULAR SEX YOU STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER HOT CHICKS DON’T, WHAT DO YOU DO GO IN THE REPENTANCE MODE AND BEG GOD TO FORGIVE YOU,. TO YOU CONFESS YOU EYED YOUR NEIGHBOR TO YOUR WIFE. BET YOU GOT SEXUAL STORIES TO TELL ON YOUR LIFE YET YOU DECIDED TO BE A JUDGE OF OTHERS PEOPLE’S BEDROOMS.
DO PLAY GAME WITH THIS TOPIC AND GO THE WAY OF DISGUSTING VILE REMARKS ABOUT TWO PEOPLE IN LOVE.
Just what game would you like me to play? Again I am struggling to understand what you have written, and what vile disgusting remark have I made towards two people in love?
All I have done is state that there are biological ill effects for those who take part in anal sex.
This has nothing whatsoever to do with two people in love.
STR8S VERY VERY VERY VERY OFTEN DO YOUR ANAL THING.
Assuming you mean straight people, first of all it is not my anal thing, I assumed it was yours having spent many years in your chosen relationship (please note that it is an assumption and it is a possibility that not all homosexuals take part in it) do not be foolish enough to think that I do not know what goes on in the world, having spent 12 years among soldiers, I know too well the filthy relationships they have with certain women, furthermore I do not condone anal sex whosoever is doing it.
THAT IS WAY WAY TO WELL KNOWN TO TRY TO PASS OFF A METHOD HUMANS DO IN THE SEX ACTS. LOTS AND LOTS OF HOMOPHOBES LOVES TO GET IN TO SEXUAL DETAIL ALMOST LIKE A FETISH ARE YOU NOW REVEALING YOUR TRUTH NATURE THAT YOU HAVE A SEXUAL FETISH ABOUT SEX ACTS?
Ok first of all you call me a homophobe, let me make this clear, I cannot be the phobia, it is possible that I may suffer the effects, although I must point out that I do not suffer from homophobia, I have absolutely no fear what so ever of homosexuals.
HOMOPHOBES ARE PEOPLE THAT WON’T PRODUCE ANCIENT WRITINGS OR MEANINGS OF BIBLE WORDS THEY CLAIM SAYS GAY IS SIN. HOMOPHOBE WON’T EVEN TRY TO UNDERSTAND AT ALL THAT GAY IS NOT SIN, OFTEN IT TAKES A CRISIS OR FINDING YOUR OWN KIDS IS GAY AND THEN THE STRUGGLE TO FIND OUT HOW YOUR KID CAN GET TO HEAVEN. HOMOPHOBES CAN BE ASK MANY TIMES TO EXPLAIN HOW THEY GET REAL GAYS INTO A VERSE BUT THEY JUST CAN’T SEE ANY DIFFERENCES IN GANG RAPE ACT AND A GAY COUPLE MAKING LOVE WITH EACH OTHER JUST LIKE STR8 MARRIED FOLK DO. HOMOPHOBE WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE ANYTHING POSITIVE IN A GAY PERSON’S LIFE OR ANYTHING GOD IS DOING DIRECTLY IN THEIR LIVES. YOUR ASSUMPTION IS HOMOPHOBE IS DEFINE AS YOU ARE AFRAID A GAY PERSON MIGHT BEAT YOU UP WHEN ACTUALLY REAL LIFE IT IS GANGS OF STR8s THAT GO AROUND BEATING GAYS UP. THE FEAR IS YOU FEAR LOSING YOU HATRED OF GAYS THAT YOU MIGHT BE WRONG THAT FOR SO LONG YOU CONDEMNED INNOCENT PEOPLE TO HELL AND NOW WHAT IF YOU ARE WRONG SO YOU CANNOT BE WRONG AT ANY COST. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE OFTEN NEED VERY PAINFUL TIMES IN LIFE CRISIS NEAR DEATH LOSS OF LOVED ONE AND MAYBE WORSE TO SEE THROUGH THEIR HATRED, MANY MANY MANY A HOMOPHOBE CAME AROUND AFTER SUCH TRAGEDY SUCH A SHAME THAT SEEKING TRUTH TO BE SET FREE IS NOT ALLOWED SO YOU JUST NEED THE WORST TO HAPPEN. CHIEF OF POLICE DAVIS IN CALIFORNIA WAS MUCH INTO SENDING VICE SQUADS INTO GAY BARS TO RAID THEM AND ARREST GAYS, ENTRAPMENT WAS A KEY METHOD TO TRICK GAYS INTO A DATE SO POLICE COULD ARREST THEM. TODAY CHIEF DAVIS AND A STRONG SUPPORTABLE OF GAY RIGHTS WHY? THIS STORY CAN BE TOLD OVER AND OVER AGAIN AS HOMOPHOBE LEARN THEY WERE WRONG. HAVE YOU EVER EVEN FOR A MOMENT LOOKED IN THE PARENT AND FRIENDS OF LESBIANS AND GAYS? TALK ABOUT DELIVERED HOMOPHOBES. PARENTS OF GAYS WHEN THEY FIND OUT HAS TO START A SEARCH THEY JUST HATE HEARING THEIR PASTOR TELLING THEM THEIR KID IS GOING TO HELL SO THEY BEGIN TO CHECK OUT POSITIVE GAYS SITE AND SUCH, GO TO HTTP://WWW.GAYCHRISTIAN101.COM GET SOME DETAILED FATS ON VERSES. PLENTY OF GOOD SPELLING AND GRAMMAR IN MANY SITES LIKE THIS, THEY GOT THE DOCUMENTATIONS AND SOURCES IF YOU GOT TO DIG DEEPER.
Now lets look at this so called fetish of mine from the perspective of 99% of the worlds doctors and other leading medical professionals:-
1. Human papillomavirus (HPV) and certain strains of that organism cause rectal and anal cancer for those involved in anal sex.
2. Rectosigmoid tears (a tear in the rectum) are common injuries caused by anal sex.
3. Allergic proctitis (an inflammation of the rectum) is secondary to lubricants and douches which are a necessity for anyone taking part in this act.
4. Severe intestinal pain is also often reported for up to 30 hours after anal sex.
5. Campylobacter, shigella and entamoeba infections have also been known to occur higher up in the bowel.
6. It is thought that transmission of HIV and other stds is far more likely via anal sex, even more so if even minimal tissue damage has taken place.
7. venereal warts can occur on the anus, If allowed to spread these can also cause rectal cancers.
8. anal fissure can result, which is a small erosion or wearing away of the lining on the inside of the anus.
9. trauma, which may be caused by anal sex or by putting foreign objects into the anus.
10. The increased problem of haemorrhoids, which are enlarged veins in the anal area.
ONE CLICK ON ANY STR8 PORN SITE SHOW STR8s ANALLING. ALL THESE CONDITIONS CAN FREQUENT ALLY BE FOUND IN STR8s. CLINICS ARE FULL OF STR8 STDs AND MORE, DISEASE IS A SORRY WAY TO CONDEMN GAYS BECAUSE STR8s GOT ALL THESE DISEASES IN ABUNDANCE. NOW WHY NOT TALK ABOUT THE HUGE NUMBER OF GAY COUPLES THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY DISEASES. I AM 62 I DON’T HAVE THEM. ANYONE THAT HAS MANY SEXUAL PARTNERS WILL GET STDs AND THE LIKE, MILITARY MONTHLY GIVES TRAINING ON SAFE SEX FOR ITS ENLISTEES SO THEY WILL HAVE LESS RISK OF DISEASES. IT IS TERRIBLE TO TALK ABOUT ONES PERSON SEX ACTS THAT SHOULD BE A PRIVATE THING, BUT NOT ALL GAYS ARE INTO ANAL AT ALL, THIS IS A HOMOPHOBIC ASSUMPTION.. HIV PERCENTAGEWISE IS A STR8 DISEASE, BUT YOU ARE CONDITIONED TO ASSUME IT IS A GAY DISEASE. AND THERE IS SO MUCH INFO ON HIV EVEN AS MUCH AS IT IS A CREATED DISEASE AND YEP TONS OF INFO AND PEOPLE GOING INTO IMMENSE BIOLOGICAL DETAILS ON ITS PRODUCTION IN THE LAB AND HOW IT WAS DISTRIBUTED IN THE WORLD AND WHERE. MAYBE CONTROVERSY BUT ENOUGH INFO YOU CANNOT PLACE IT ON GAYS AS A RELATED TO SIN ARTIFACT. WOW WHO IS YOUR SOURCE OF INFO LOOK AT ALL THE STUFF YOU ARE PLACING INTO THE GAY SEX. WHY ARE YOU EVEN ATTEMPTING TO ACT LIKE YOU KNOW THE RESULT OF GAY SEX HAVE YOU DONE THESE THINGS YOURSELF? WHY NOT SK REAL GAYS. 650 MILLION GAYS I GUESS WE NEED A MILLION AMD 10 MILLION MORE HOSPITAL TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR DISEASES YOU ARE TRYING TO HEAP ONTO GAYS. SORRY TO POP YOUR BUBBLE BUT MOST GAYS DON’T GET ANY SUCH DISEASES. SOMETIME IN THEIR YOUNG LIFE MANY AS THEY TRY TO MEET OTHER GAYS SINCE THE CHURCH BANNED ANY SORT OF DECENT USUALLY MEETING PLACES THEY HAVE TO FREQUENT PLACES THAT WOULD HAVE A HIGHER INCIDENT OF CATCHING DISEASES. WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU WOULD BE TOSSED OUT OF YOUR LIVING PLACE, DISOWNED BY PARENTS FIRED FROM YOUR JOB IF ANYONE FOUND OUT? WOULD YOU GO SOMEWHERE WHERE IT IS LESS LIKELY ANY WOULD KNOW YOU MET SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX? REMEMBER IT IS THE CHURCH FOR 700 YEARS THAT FORCED GAYS INTO SECLUSION AND INTO A MORE RISKY LIFE STYLE I BET YOU WOULD DO ANYTHING IT TOOK TO ME SOMEONE LIKE YOUR WIFE TOO IF THAT WERE BANNED. THE JEWS HAD TO BE HIDDEN PEOPLE RISK EVERYTHING TO HELP THEM VERY RISKY TO HELP CERTAIN PEOPLE SO THEY GO UNDERGROUND THIS IS NOT SIN. CHRISTIANS WERE PERSECUTED THEY HAD TO HIDE THEIR FAITH AND MEET SECRETLY VERY RISKY. TRYING TO ADD IN DISEASES TO GAYS EVOKES EVERYTHING ABOUT DISEASES BREAST CANCER MEAN BEING A WOMAN IS SIN RIGHT?
Unlike the vagina which is naturally self lubricating the anus is not, yet another fact that one might take into account as anal sex being an unnatural, creational non Intentional biological function.
Now you are most welcome to deny these facts and deny 99% of doctors and medical professionals advise.
650 MILLION GAYS TODAY IT IS POINTLESS TO TRY TO USE WHAT YOU THINK MAKES SENSE IN SEX. ONE PLUS ONE 650 MILLION WORKS SO TRYING TO SAY IT DOESN’T IS DUMB.
Now after looking at this rather unattractive side effects, do you still believe that I have some kind of fetish towards anal sex? Do I need to emphasise further on associated biological ill effects, or can we now attest that anal sex is a damaging, un natural act to which God himself did not design the body to take part in?
YES I DO NOW MORE THAN EVER THINK YOU HAVE A FETISH ON ANAL SEX.
ARE YOU AGAIN TRYING TO SUPERCEED MY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT NATURE AND THE HISTORY OF EARTH
Why how could I supersede your knowledge? you have already rather arrogantly stated that you know more than I will ever know.
THEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THINGS RESPECT THAT THE OTHER PERSON MAKE KNOW ONE OR TWO THINGS SO DON’T MAKE IT LIKE YOU ARE FOR THE FIRST TIME TELLING ME ABOUT THE BIRDS AND THE BEES
PLEASE DON'T TRY THIS i AM NOT 62 FOR NOTHING
Yes you are sixty two because you have been gracing the world with your presence for that amount of time, but does that make you superior to all that have been here a lesser time?
Does age give you an automatic status of wisdom and knowledge, or are there many sixty two year olds who, professing themselves to be wise became fools?
IT MAKES ME YOUR ELDER FOR ONE AND I AM A CHRISTIAN AND YOU DO NEED TO RESPECT PEOPLE WHICH YOU ARE NOT, YOU ARE TREATING ME LIKE I KNOW NOTHING, I MAKE MY STATEMENTS OF BOOSTING IN AN ATTEMPT TO REACH INTO YOUR HEART WHICH IN HARD TO FIND. PAUL BOOSTED AND I AM BOOSTING FOR YOUR SAKE NOT MINE, THAT YOU MIGHT REASON OUT AND ASK YOURSELF WHY INSTEAD OF RETALIATE WITH FURTHER ACCUSATIONS
Have you spent your sixty two years wisely or have you wasted far too long as an apologetic for homosexuality, when you could be working to further the kingdom of God?
BELIEVE IT OR NOT I DO HAVE A FULL LIFE AND A MINISTRY TO REACH THE LOST FOR CHRIST. DEALING WITH HOMOPHOBES IS ONE ASPECT. MY MINISTRY IS A LAST DAYS MINISTRY PREPARE PEOPLE FOR THE COMING DECEPTIONS AND THE CURRENT DECEPTIONS AND WHAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN AND WHAT IT IS TO WALK WITH CHRIST AND WHAT A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP IS WITH JESUS. I ALSO HAVE A MINISTER TO MUSLIMS NOT MY CHOICE BUT THEY WON’T STOP COMING TO ME TRYING TO CONVERT ME SO I KNOW A BUNCH OF THINGS ABOUT ISLAM FROM ITS ROOTS. PAKISTAN AND INDIA AND SEVERAL COUNTRIES IN AFRICA AGAIN NOT MY CALLING BUT GUESS GOD WANTS ME TO DEAL WITH THEM AND SO NEARLY DAILY I AM MINISTERING TO THOSE COUNTRIES. BUT I LIKE TRAVELING AND HIKING AND SITE SEEING AND EATING OUT AND MOVIES AND FISHING CAMPING AND MUCH MORE, I LOVE INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE AND THEY SEEM TO LOVE TO TALK WITH ME, I HAVE ABOUT 25 CHAT NAMES AND CHAT MESSENGER OPEN AT ANY ONE TIME AND SO I AM OFTEN CHATTING EVERY WHERE IN THE WORLD ABOUT JESUS. BUT HEY YOU CAN’T EVEN COME TO ASK ABOUT ANYTHING ABOUT MY LIFE OR MINISTRY ALL YOU SE IS THE NAME GAY IN MY SCREEN NAME
I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE DISCOVERING ABOUT HUMANS AND ABOUT HISTORY AND SCIENCE.
You do? I find it interesting although there are many parts of history and especially history of science that brings about a feeling of abhorrence in me.
AND THE ABHORRENCE USUALLY IS FROM WHAT CHRISTIANS DO TO CHRISTIANS I BET
YOUR IGNORANCE IS NOT EVEN FUNNY WHEN YOU TRY TO TALK ON THOSE TOPICS.
Again my ignorance is unknown to you, unless of course I have made a somewhat ignorant statement regarding the facts.
But please do enlighten me, as I would hate to be seen as ignorant.
perhaps homosexuality is the normal practice within the animal kingdom, but through my ignorance, I missed it.
IN THE ANIMAL WORLD YES GAY ANIMALS ARE QUITE PLENTY YOU SAY YOU ARE TAKING BIOLOGY AND YOU DON’T KNOW THIS HMMMMMM WHAT IS IT YOUR FIRST MONTH OF CLASSES?
THIS IS ANOTHER HOMOPHOBE COP OUT. SO OFTEN SINCE HOMOPHBES CANNOT EXPLAIN ANYTHING WELL THEY REVERT TO ASSUMING GAYS SOMEHOW KNOW THEIR LIFE IS IN SIN
THIS IS SO DUMB. FEELING IS NOT BIBLE FACT OR HISTORY OR REAL LIFE. FEELING IS "YO U !" FEELING CAN BE NICE BUT THEY ARE NOT PART OF SHOWING YOURSELF APPROVED OF GOD
Id say it was more of an opinion based on facts, but is the theory universal or have certain people spent far to long in conditioning ones introspective of the given subject matter, to simply recognise reality or immorality?
Feeling, assuming you mean my opinion, is not biblical fact or biblical history, I recognise this, but is it fact? In most cases I would be inclined to believe so, however I do not doubt that some have been given over to vile affections.
SOME IS NOT ALL DO NOT JUDGE 650 MILLION PEOPLE BY A FEW. WOULD YOU NOT LIKE IT IF I TOLD YOU YOUR LOVE WITH YOUR WIFE IS A VILE AFFECTION. NOPE YOU WOULD NOT AND YOU WOULD ARGUE YOU KNOW IT IS LOVE AND NOT VILE AT ALL, BUT YOU SEEM TO THINK YOU CAN TELL A GAY PERSON HE IS IN A VILE AFFECTION AND SEEM TO THINK THAT GAYS PERSON SHOULD RESPOND BY SAYING OH HOW KIND THANKS FOR TELLING I WILL STOP IT RIGHT NOW.
THE HARD PILL TO SWALLOW IS YOUR OWN PRIDE OF YOUR OWN HATRED OF GAYS.
You are now attempting to use a circular argument to suggest that I even have pride in what you suggest that I feel, wow! are you omniscient? I am getting an opinion of an individual who certainly believes he is.
YOU DO HAVE PRIDE IN YOUR HATRED SORRY IT IS JUST A FACT.
The pill is the truth, and one day, at the throne of judgement, everyone will need to take their medicine.
do not make the mistake confusing what you perceive to be hate with this very deep concernment.
YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO WAIT TI THE THROWN OF JUDGMENT TO SEE GAY IS NOT SIN I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THE GOD’S MESSENGER ARE ABOUT TO TELL CHRISTIANS. THIS WON’T HAPPEN IN POWER TILL THE TRIB STARTS. YOU NEED THE BLOOD TO BE ON YOUR DOOR POSTS AND MANTLE BEFORE THE RAPTURE CAN PLUCK YOU OFF EARTH.
CHRISTIANS ARE REALLY GOOD AT BELIEVING LIES. THE WORLD IS FLAT
Excuse me while I pick myself up off the floor, in the words of John McEnroe you cannot be serious!
Do you really believe this? Really? The Bible says no such thing, and the devout Christian and round earth activist of the highest degree Christopher Columbus certainly didnt think so, as he put his faith into action.
Whilst captaining his vessel he put his trust in what the lord had shown him from the scriptures, cosmology, histories, chronicles and philosophy, amongst other arts, as he set sail beyond the blue yonder, on his voyage of discovery.
I TALK OF THE PAST YOU AREN’T TO BRIGHT ARE YOU? CHRISTIAN BELIEVED THE SUN ROTATED AROUND THE SUN TO AND YOU CUT A PERSON TO BLEED OUT THE SICKNESS. LOTS OF THINGS WE KNOW TODAY WERE ENOUGH TO GET EXCOMMUNICATED IF YOU WERE CATHOLIC AND RAN OUT OF TOWN IF YOUR WERE PROTESTANT.
Have you ever stood in open ground or set sail in the open ocean? Then you must have noticed the curvature of the earth, you cannot have failed to witness how the mountains begin to disappear out of sight at a range of approximately twelve miles. I do not and cannot believe that anyone with an ounce of intelligence would believe that the earth was flat.
USING YOUR LOGIC WAS NOT CHRISTIAN IN MEDIEVAL TIMES AS IT WERE, DISGUSTING TALK ABOUT THIS IT IS KINDERGARTEN STUFF
BLEED A PERSON TO GET OUT THE POISON
Well this is something which has nothing to do with Christianity, and would very quickly be recognised as a procedure that simply does not work, isnt it a wonderful thing that medical science has evolved?
YOU STILL DON’T GET IT BRUSH OFF EVERYTHING I SAY YOUR HATRED IS SO STRONG
BLACK ARE SLAVES
I am starting to lose any respect I had for you at this point, although in error, you had previously argued a some of your points fairly well, considering the overwhelming evidence stacked against you.
The Bible speaks of all men being equal, do you even know of the main proponent for black slavery? Incidentally it was the very opposite of Christianity, namely macro evolution, the very same theory that teaches or at least used to teach that black people are almost a sub species, therefore under the guise of not being fully human, (the evolutionist Haechel demonstrated this in his anthropogenie drawing from 1874 has some interesting drawing of a Negro sat in a tree with apes) slavery was accepted.
AGAIN YOU ARE BLIND AS A BAT WITH NO RADAR. CHRISTIANS DID NOT THINK BLACKS EQUAL AND EVEN TODAY MANY DON’T, I DON’T THINK YOU GOT A CLUE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU ARE PLAYING LIKE THE IST THAT SUDDENLY IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN 2009
WOMEN SHOULD NOT VOTE THROW CHILDREN AWAY
Again this is not biblical and certainly not exclusive to Christians, but merely a reflection on what society was like in those times.
Its like future generations looking back to the 21st century, pointing at the Christians and saying look, they all condone abortion because it happens in western society
As Christians, we are in the world but we are not of it.
WHAT SOCIETY? CHRISTIANS MADE THIS THEIR LAW CHRISTIANS LIKE YOU HATED STUFF SO THAT MAD IT SIN. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BIBLE I AM TALKING ABOUT CHRISTIAN INTERRUPTING THE BIBLE TO JUSTIFY RAPING BLACK SLAVES (AS AN EXTREME EXAMPLE) MEANING IT IS A COMMON THING THAT CHRISTIANS FOR LONG PERIOD GET IT WRONG, BEING WRONG DOES NOT GET YOU HELL, BUT AS TIME GOES ON SOME RIGHT BECOME PART OF THE PICTURE.
AND TODAY JOINING UP WITH OTHER RELIGIONS TO IN THE NAME OF GOOD DEEDS CHRISTIAN ARE OFTEN WRONG AND CERTAINLY NOT PERFECT
Absolutely, but unfortunately for you and your cause, not in this instance.
AGAIN TWISTING WHAT I SAY INTO ANTIGAY HATRED YOU HAVE. YOU JUST WON’T LOOK INTO WHAT I SAY YOU JUST USE IT TO EXPRESS YOU HATRED
AND YOU SHOULD BE INQUIRING FROM ME ABOUT THE 2ND HALF OF MY MINISTRY OUTREACH ON THE LAST DAYS. IT MIGHT BE I KNOW THINGS TO TELL YOU THAT MIGHT HELP YOU KEEP YOUR FAITH IN THE COMING DAYS. YES I KNOW YOU SAY YOU WILL NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON JESUS YES YES YES RIGHT? I TELL YOU YOU JUST MIGHT JUST DO THAT VERY THING AND I GO PLENTY REASON FOR SAYING THIS. GUESS SOMEONE YOU KNOW HAS BE TELLING ME A FEW THINGS MAYBE YOU SHOULD ASK.
Has the someone who has been telling you, perhaps told you to go out and preach the gospel, or has he told you to wait to be asked first? If you know such information should you not be telling others what may help to secure our faith, helping to secure our salvation, rather that waiting to be asked?
HEH HEH I KNOW MY SOURCE AND YOU WILL SOON TOO
I DID NOT RIGHT FOR YOUR SAKE, YOU ARE NEARLY A LOST CAUSE FOR ME TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT YOU.
But did you not write to me? Did you not try to convince me that homosexuality pleases God? To this cause I am not just merely mislaid, but completely lost with absolute amnesia.
YOU ARE A TOOL, I AM USING YOU 100% NOT ANY OF WHAT I AM TELLING YOU IS FOR YOUR EARS, YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR HATRED ARE A TOOL TO USE AS THOUGH I WENT TO THE STORE AND BOUGHT A HAMMER AND NAILS TO BUILD A FENCE. ARE YOU THINKING I THINK YOUR ARE MORE THAN A TOOL? SORRY IF I MISLED YOU IN THINKING YOU WERE MORE SPECIAL THAN AN INANIMATE OBJECT. I TOLD YOU SEVERAL TIME YOU NEED A CRISIS BEFORE YOU CAN SIT BACK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING, FOR NOW I AM SPEAKING IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE FROM YOUR EYE PROSPECTIVE. NOT MY PROBLEM YOU ARE A HOMOPHOBE SO WHAT CAN CHANGE YOU?
IT WILL TAKE A GREAT DEAL OF PAIN AND SUFFERING BEFORE SOMEONE LIKE YOU CAN TAKE TIME TO SEE THOUGH YOUR 700 YEARS OF CONDITIONING.
How so?
I WROTE FOR THE SAKE OF SO MANY THAT WILL READ THIS IN MY MANY SITES. YOU ARE A GOOD TOOL TO REACH MANY THAT WANT TO SEE TRUTH AND SO PEOPLE LIKE YOU GIVE ME OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE ON THE VARIOUS ISSUES CONCERNING GAYS AND THE BIBLE AND MUCH MORE. SO INDEED THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLINDNESS IT HELPS ME REACH THE MANY THAT HAVE SIGHT.
In summary then:
A. In the stories of genesis and judges we have the many sins of those wicked people, but you see, the act of homosexuality caused the final judgement.
REAL GAYS ARE NOT DESCRIBED IN GENESIS ATTEMPTED GANG RAPE IS. SO YOU CAN’T SEE THOUGH YOUR HATE TO SEE THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE FROM GANG RAPE AND A COUPLE MAKING LOVE. SO YOU SAY NOT THE BIBLE GANG RAPE EQUALS GAY ACTS. THE REAL REASON FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF SODOM: Ezek 16:49-50 49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. 50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good. (KJV) WHAT YOU LOVE DOING IS TRYING TO MAKE SOME WORD BECOME PROOF TEXT IT IS GAYS, BUT YOU CAN’T BECAUSE COMPLETE DESCRIPTION IS GIVEN IN SODOM AND GAY SEX IS NOT ONE OF THEM. RAPE IS DESCRIBE IF YOU USE THAT TO SAY IT IS SAME SEX SO IT IS GAY THEN YOU HAVE TO USE THAT IN THE DESCRIPTIONS THE BIBLE GIVES FOR STR8 RAPE. SINCE IT IS OPPOSITE SEX THEN STR8 IS SIN AS IT DESCRIBED SEX BETWEEN 2 STR8s
Now you could argue that in fact, the threat of rape caused the final judgement, but, you see, in Genesis, Lot offered his daughters to be raped instead of the men. Therefore rape cannot be the crime that brought about the judgement thereof.
GAYS DON’T RAPE YOU JUST DON’T GET IT. THE KEY IS RAPE NOT SAME SEX. AND THIS RAPE WOULD HAVE BEEN TO THE DEATH. GAYS DO NOT DO THIS IT IS NOT DESCRIBING GAY SEX, GAY SEX IS 2 GUYS MET EACH OTHER THEY DATED THEY FELL IN LOVE THEY MARRIED. THIS IS ALSO STR8 SEX’S DESCRIPTION BUT WITH OPPOSITE SEX. AS WITH STR8s IT IS A RARE THING THAT IT WORKS OUT SO SIMPLE. INCOMPATIBILITY AND A TON OF THINGS AND MOTIVES TAKES PEOPLE SOMETIMES ON A WILD RIDE TO THEIR MATE. BUT TO THEIR MATE THEY ARE HEADED NON THE LESS. SEEING SEX ACTS DOES MAKE AN ORIENTATION, IT IS THE MANY HOMOPHOBES USUALLY FIND USING SODOM IS A BAD EXAMPLE AND USUALLY QUICKLY STATE LETS JUST NOT USE SODOM IT IS NOT A GOOD EXAMPLE SO THEY GO ONTO OTHER VERSES, YOU ARE STUCK ON GANG RAPE MEANS GAYS SEX ACT. A GAY SEX ACT YOU SHOULD KNOW VERY WELL BECAUSE YOU MAKE LOVE TO YOUR WIFE OFTEN AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND TO WHAT END YOU ARE DOING IT, YOU BELIEVE YOU LOVE HER AND YOU BELIEVES SHE LOVES YOU, YOUR GOAL IS NOT TO MAKE BABIES, THOUGH YOU DID AT LEAST ONCE. SO YOUR SEX WITH YOUR WIFE IS WHAT YOU CALL A COMPLETION OF YOUR LOVING HER BY HAVING ORGASM TOGETHER. IF YOU WERE TO SEE ANOTHER WOMEN AND GRAB HER AND FORCE HER DOWN AND RAPE HER YOU WOULD SAY THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS THE SEX YOU HAD WITH YOUR WIFE BECAUSE YOU LOVE YOUR WIFE AND SHE LOVES YOU AND YOU BOTH WANTED SEX TOGETHER, THE PERSON YOU JUST RAPED HAD NO CHICE AND SHE HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL TO GET SOWED UP YOU WERE SO FORCEFUL SHE IN FACT ALMOST DIED BECAUSE OF YOU RAPING HER. SO TELL ME WAS YOUR RAPING HER HET SEX SO HET SEX IS SIN EVEN IF IT WAS THE WITH YOUR WIFE TYPE? WASTE OF TIME ALL YOU SEE IS MEN TO MEN SO IT IS GAY.
B. We should have also established that the word, know as used in the Genesis story is used to refer to sexual relations, as is also used in Genesis 4/1, now you claim that because that reference is plural,
Gen 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: (KJV) THIS IS NOT PLURAL OK IF YOU SAY SO HEH HEH
that it is a different word when translated into Hebrew, but unfortunately, youre defence does not hold up due to this same story of Lot, in the very same chapter, and emphasis added, in the exact same context:
THE DIFFERENT WORD WAS IN LEV. NOT IN GENESIS “THE WORD MAN MEANS “ PRACTICING STR8 MAN” YOU MISSPELLED YOUR AND DEFENSE.
Lot offers his daughters to the men of the city, stating that the women have not known man they were virgins.
YEAH A GREAT WONDERFUL STR8 TRAIT OF THOSE DAYS WE WOULD PROBABLY SENTENCE LOT TO LIFE OF HAVE HIM EXECUTED TODAY. TODAY LETTING OTHERS RAPE YOUR DAUGHTER IS WORST EVEN THAN GAY SEX GENERALLY SPEAKING BY MOST CHRISTIAN HOMOPHOBES.
C. Leviticus 18/22 cannot possibly mean that thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination only refers to Pagan practices and worship as it is revealed upon reading the next verse, verse 23: neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto, it is confusion
THE NEXT VERSE IS ANOTHER TOPIC AND A BEAST IN HEBREW IS AN ANIMAL NO DEEP STUDY EXONERATES SEX WITH ANIMALS. YOU JUST ADD THE BEAST SEX TO THE GAY SEX TO MAKE GAY SEX WORSE IN YOUR MIND. YOU DO NOT BREAK DOWN THE HEBREW WORDS INTO THERE ORIGINAL MEANING AND ANCIENT DAY USAGE, YOU CONDEMN ME WHEN I DO BUT YOU WON’T GIVE TO ME THE CORRECT MEANINGS BY PRESENTING THE CORRECT ANCIENT WORD MEANING
Ah but you say, one is abomination and the other is confusion but dont be so hasty, continuing on to verse 26 in reference to these commandments: ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgements, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourned among you
Now if homosexuality is only condemned when in connection to Pagan practices, then so is bestiality. Are you really suggesting that God is ok with bestiality?
I AM SAYING THAT HOMOPHOBE USE 14 VERSES AND THOSE 14 VERSES DO NOT TALK ABOUT GAYS, YOU WON’T EXPLAIN ANY OF THE 14 VERSES JUST LIKE NOW YOU WANT ME TO GO IN DISCOURSE OVER SEX WITH ANIMALS.
D. Leviticus 20/13 ascribes homosexuality to the list of sins requiring the death penalty.
THE HEBREW METHOD OF DEATH THAT IS INSTRUCTED HERE IS THE ACCUSER MUST STONE THE ACCUSEE TO DEATH THIS IS THE HEBREW LAW OF THAT DAY. PLEASE THEN STONE ME TO DEATH YOU MY ACCUSER. IT IS YOU THAT STATE IT IS ABOUT GAYS BUT YOU WON’T USE HEBREW AND CUSTOMS AND LAWS OF THOSE DAYS TO POINT OUT IT WAS INDEED GAYS AND NOT STR8 MEN GOING TO PAGAN PROSTITUTES.
The worship of Moloch is at the head of this chapter of penalties but as in the previous point, is in no way applicable only when the following sins are in connection with it, as this will present the very same problem as discussed above, only far worse:
GEORGE BUSH AND HIS FATHER DID GO YEARLY TO A MOLOCH CLUB THE BOHEMIAN CLUB TO BE EXACT. THIS IS THE SAME GOD LIST IN THE BIBLE. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF 33RD DEGREE MASON BUSH? HE SAYS HE IS A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN.
Again in order to justify an acceptance of homosexuality by God, you will also have to justify the occult teachings, cursing your mother and father, adultery, incest and again, bestiality.
AS USUALLY HOMOPHOBES JUST HAVE TO ADD IN EVERY EVIL UNDER THE SUN TO MAKE SURE GAYS HAVE NO HOPE. THE 14 VERSES IS ESTABLISHED, ADDING VERSES BY HOMPHOBES HAPPENS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE ASSUMPTION GAY IS SIN. YOU REFUSE TO BREAK DOWN VERSES INTO THE ORIGIN HEBREW/GREEK WORD USE IN THAT DAY IT WAS PENNED. YOU REJECT AND MOCK EVERY TIME I DO THIS, BUT AT LEAST I GIVE YOU SOMETHING YOU JUST GIVE ME NOTHING EXCEPT YOU STATE GAY IS SIN A GANG RAPE IS YOUR PROOF.
E. Back tracking a little to Judges and Genesis, the men of the houses, in the offering of daughters to be raped in place of the men indicates that it would be better for the men of the cities to rape the hosts own daughters, than to rape the men. This demonstrates the seriousness of the mens homosexual intentions.
PLACING WHAT COULD BE BISEXUAL AMD MAKING THEM GAY IS NOT TALKING ABOUT GAYS THE STORY IS DEEPER THAN YOU WISH IT O BE.
F. Romans 1/18-32 This chapter appears rather well suited to todays society. In it Paul demonstrates Gods wrath from heaven against ungodliness and unrighteousness (to which homosexuality and lesbianism are included) and describes how God gives people up to the same for what already exists in their hearts.
This is also the only place in the Bible where lesbianism is explicitly described, perhaps through being not only uncommon, but virtually unmentionable in those times:
Ephesians 5/12 for it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret
YOU ASSUME IT NOT THE BIBLE AND IT IS STR8 ADULTS THAT TURNED FROM GOD TO gods 24-25 GOD CHANGED THEM IT IS THOSE 2 VERSES THAT STR8 TURNED GAY WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE AND NOT HOW STR8S GOT GAY. NATURE AND NATURAL SEED AND INSTINCT IN GREEK MEANS SOMEONE HAD TO HAVE LOVED STR8 SEX THEN TOOK UP GAY SEX FERTILITY TEMPLE THIS DID IN FACT HAPPEN IN RITUAL ORGY ROOMS. ANY SORT OF SEX WAS IN THOSE ORGIES ORIENTATION WAS NOT A FACTOR AND MORE DETAILS ARE IN THESE PRACTICES WHICH YOU WANT TO MEAN JUST YOUR ORDINARY GAY COUPLE’S RELATIONSHIPS.
G. Romans 1/26-27 Paul also describes how the women did change the natural use into that which is against nature and men gave up the natural use of the woman, an example of how our previous discussion of homosexuality being contrary to nature is confirmed in the Bible.
But no doubt that as am I, Jesus the son and God the father, Paul was just a homophobe.
ONE VERSE IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE IS USED TO CONDEMN LESBIANS YET THERE ARE AS MANY LESBIANS A GAY MEN. NATURE AND NATURAL YOU GOT TO HAVE LOVED OPPOSITE SEX FIRST BEFORE YOU SOMEHOW GOT TURNED GAY THIS IS THE GREEK WORDS, PAUL WAS EXTREMELY ADAMANT AGAINST CHRISTIANS TURNING TO PAGAN GODS, HE SAW FERTILITY TEMPLE ON EVERY CORNER IN ROME AND IN CORINTH AS I SAW THOSE RUINS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WHEN I WAS IN ROME.
H. Corinthians 6/9-11 There are two words here that refer to active and passive partners in homosexual intercourse, as also is displayed in the Greek and other languages, there are distinct words used for active and passive homosexual intercourse.
Even if there may be some element of doubt as to the usage of the two terms, there can be no doubt that it is those who practice homosexuality that they refer to.
THE TWO WORD HERE CATAMITE AND SODOMITE IN THE GREEK MEANS EXPENSIVE CALL BOY, NOT MAKING IT UP WEALTHY CORINTHIAN MEN FOR STATUS SYMBOL HIRED VERY EXPENSIVE CALL BOYS YOU COULD NOT GET THESE PROSTITUTES ON THE STREET IT WAS BY ARRANGEMENT ONLY. NOT A MADE UP STORY BUT SORT OF COMMON ENOUGH PRACTICE, SODOMITE IS FLAT OUT MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTE. OTHER STORIES ON 1 COR 6:9 EVOLVED AND WERE TAUGHT MANY WAYS INCLUDING YOUR ONE IS THE WOMAN THE OTHER IS THE MAN THINGS. YEP SURE ARE PLENTY OF GAYS THAT LIKE THAT KIND OF ROLE PLAYING MOST IT IS MAN TO MAN NOT PASSIVE OR ACTIVE NONSENSE. BUT THESE OFTEN ARE MOST VISIBLE WHILE THE MAJORITY OF GAYS ARE UNSEEN BECAUSE THEY LOOK LIKE YOU OR ANYONE YOU SEE ON THE STREET.
ANOTHER FACT KING JAMES NOW IS KNOW TO BE GAY AND IT HAD ALWAYS BEEN KNOWN HE WAS A TRANSVESTITE. TODAY PASTOR BAN OR URGE THEIR FLOCK NOT TO READ THE ONLY BIBLE THAT IS FROM THE REC’D TEXT. FORCING HIS FLOCK TO READ COUNTERFEIT SATAN BIBLE INSTEAD LIKE YOU ARE DOING. IT WAS BECAUSE OF AN 1850 CLERGY USA CONVENTION THAT YOU GOT GAYS INTO THE BIBLE IN 1 COR 6:9 IN 1946.
You write on the various issues but refuse to address the core issue itself , I am doubtless that you are a wolf in sheeps clothing, you care not for any homosexual, only for your own self satisfaction and new found fame.
YEAH YOU ARE RIGHT I AM A WOLF IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING, SINCE YOU REJECT ANY TESTIMONY OF MY LIFE AND IT WORKS AND THE SIGN FOLLOWING YOU HAVE TO REJECT A NOTION I MIGHT BE SENT TO YOU BY GOD TO SHAKE YOUR LIFE UP CONCERNING GAYS. BELIEVE ME YOUR LIFE WILL BE SHAKEN, I BET YOU THINK YOU ARE JUST HAVING A FUN CONVERSATION WITH A FRUIT CAKE, IT DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT YOUR LIFE SOON WILL CHANGE DRAMATIC AS YOU WILL HAVE TO FACE THE CRISIS COMING TO YOUR LIFE, THIS DAY IS AN ATTEMPT TO MELLOW OUT THAT COMING DAY FOR YOU AND YOU ARE REJECTING IT. I KNOW WHENCE I COME AND WHOM SENT ME, YOU CAN’T IMAGINE THAT I GOT A FREEBEE WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU THINK IT’S A GAME. I SAW THE LAST PAGES SO WHAT YOU SAY CAN’T CHANGE WHAT IS SET IN STONE FOR YOU. ANTI-CHRIST KINGDOM AND HIS PLANS ARE NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN SIT BACK A CASUALLY WAIT FOR THAT RAPTURE, YOU WILL BE A PARTICIPATOR IN LIFE AND DEATH ALL AROUND YOU. MERCILESS FOREIGN TROOPS AND OUR PRESIDENT IN COMMAND OF THEM. DOESN’T MEAN OBAMA OR THE NEXT ONE BUT THEY ARE CONSENTING OBEDIENT TO ANTICHRIST’S KINGDOM AS THEY NOW RULE. FAME HEH HEH YOU ARE GUESSING, I AM TELLING YOU AND HAVE STEPPED IN THE FIRE FOR GAYS AND ANY CHRISTIAN THAT IS BEING PERSECUTED AND HAS BEEN PERSECUTOR BY CHRISTIANS OVER THE PAST 2000 YEARS.
I wish this area of your ministry absolute failure, although unlikely given the current attitude.
What is true is that one of us is certainly blind, but only one of us has everything to lose, that person better be sure that its not him.
I STARTED ONLINE IN 1985 AT THAT TIME NO OTHER OPENLY GAY PERSON SPOKE IN CHRISTIAN CHAT ROOMS AND NO REAL MAJOR CHANGE IN SECULAR THOUGH I CAME OUT TO MYSELF IN 1970 AND AT THAT TIME ONLY SAFE HEAVEN WAS IN GAY BARS OR GAY CHURCH FOR ANY SORT OF RELAXING MEANING YOU DID NOT HAVE TO EXPLAIN ANYTHING SO THAT IT WOULD SEEM LIKE YOU ARE STR8 TO OTHERS. NO PLACE WAS THERE POSITIVE TOWARDS GAYS (YES THERE WERE BUT I AM TALKING IN A MORE PUBLIC SENSE) BUT GAY ABOUND AND WERE DOING WELL ALL OVER THE WORLD THOUGH IN THE CLOSET TO MOST FAMILY FRIEND AND ASSOCIATES. THEN BBS BECAME POPULAR ADVANCEMENT OF THE DAY I GOT ME ONE TO MINISTER WITH CALLED IT GAYS4JESUS. WHICH WAS A 6 LINE BBS WHICH EVOLVED TO MY PRESENT WEBSITE AND BLOGS. I WENT ON MANY CHRISTIAN BBSs AND IN THOSE DAY THE BBS OWNER COULD PRESS A BUTTON A ZAP YOU OFF, SO MANY NAMES I GET BACK ON THEN CHAT HAPPENED CHAT WAS ON BBSs TOO, THEN WWW CAME TO BE AND HUGE ACCESS TO WORLD CHATTING. I WAS THERE NO ONE ELSE AND NO POSITIVE JUST HOMOPHOBES 40 AT A TIME JUMPING ON MY CASE CONDEMNING ME AND NEVER EXPLAINING ANYTHING ABOUT THE BIBLE’S VERSES, EVEN BACK THEN I KNEW GREAT DETAIL ABOUT GAYS AND THE BIBLE AND THERE WERE PLENTY OF INFO IN GAY CHURCHES FROM SCHOLARS AND OTHERS ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE WORD MEANS I HAD ALSO SPENT LONG HOURS IN CHRISTIAN BOOK STORES READING EVERYTHING THEY HAD ABOUT GAYS OF COURSE IT WAS NEGATIVE, BUT SUCH LIES ARE EASY TO SEE THRU AND IT IS INFORMATIVE ON WHAT THE SOURCES THEY USED. WHICH LED ME INTO DEEPER RESEARCH AND OTHER SOURCES AND COLLEGE PROFESSORS BOOKS AND MORE SO I KNEW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLY ON AND SO COULD ANSWER ANYTHING ANY ONE WOULD LAY ON ME IN THE CHRISTIAN CHAT ROOMS. ALMOST EVERY DAY SINCE 1985 I HAVE BEEN CHATTING WITH CHRISTIANS, LOTS ARE HOMOPHOBES BECAUSE MY SCREEN NAME THEY JUST GOT TO POP UP IN MY CHAT TO CONDEMN ME. SO LET SEE THE YEARS THAT GO BY AND WHAT BEGINS TO HAPPEN. I HAVE NO IDEA IF I HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT OR IF IT IS JUST PLAN FACT TRUTH SETS PEOPLE FREE, BUT YEARS GO BY 100,000 OF THOUSANDS OF CHATS AND I GOT A SCALE I STARTED PROGAY IN USE THAT COULD BE PUBLICLY HEARD WAS IN MY SIGHT 0 PRO 100% CON (AGAINST GAYS) 1974 AT MY SALVATION. 1985 NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE BUT AT LEAST GAY GROUPS WEREN’T THAT HAD TO FIND IN THE BUSINESS PAGE OF PHONE BOOKS. THEN THE 90s CAME AND NOW YOU CAN SEE AN INCREASE OF OTHER OPENLY GAYS IN CHRISTIAN CHAT ROOMS, IN THOSE DAYS YOU HAD TEEN CHRISTIAN ROOMS A GOOD BAROMETER ON CHRISTIAN PARENTS TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN IN THE WAY THEY SHOULD GO. CHRISTIANS IN CHRISTIAN CHAT ROOMS LET IT ALL HANG OUT IT WOULD BE HARD TO THINK OF THEM IN CHURCH BUT THEY ARE THOSE SAME CHRISTIANS FROM ALL THE VARIOUS DENOMINATIONS AND DO GO TO CHURCH WEEKLY. SATAN’S INFLUENCE WAS GROWING SO MUCH VERY SICK SATANIC ATTACKS WHICH MOST IGNORED, BUT THEY SEE THE WORD GAY ZAP ON ME CONDEMNING. ALSO BICKERING WAS COMMON EVERY TRYING TO PUSH THEIR IDEA ON EVERYONE ELSE INFIGHTING FLIRTING EVERYTHING WITH GOOD CHRISTIANS TOO. CLICK TO THE TEEN ROOMS SURE ENOUGH INFIGHTING CONDEMN GAYS AS SOON AS THE SEE THE WORD GAY, SATAN ESPECIALLY ATTACKING AND YET NO ADULT CHRISTIAN SEEMING TO CARE OF MONITOR THOSE ROOMS EVEN AS I WAS DOING JUST TO SEE HOW CHRISTIAN CHILDREN WERE DOING. CHRISTIAN CHILDREN REFLEX THE SAME THINGS CHRISTIAN ADULTS DO FIGHT EACH OTHER NOT CARE ABOUT SATANIC ATTACKS IF YOU ARE NOT LIKE THEM THEN THEY MUST CORRECT YOU AND HIGH EMPHASIS ON FLIRTING. THEN CAME BOTS ESPECIALLY STR8 SEX BOTS. AT TIMES I PLEAD WITH THE CHRISTIANS TO TAKE UP PRAYERS TOGETHER OR THINK OF WAYS TO SPIRITUALLY IN CHRIST JESUS TO COME AGAINST THESE SEX BOTS. CHRISTIANS COULD DO IT BUT YAHOO IN THIS CASE JUST MADE IT HARDER FOR ACCESSING ROOMS AND BOTS WOULD OVERCOME THAT. BUT PUTTING THAT CHRISTIAN INFIGHTING AND CLAIMING WHO IS RIGHT OR WRONG OR SATAN OR BOTS THEY ALWAYS ATTACKED ME, GREAT HOMOPHOBES ARE GREAT TOOLS TO REACH THE MANY AND SO THOSE HOMOPHOBES GAVE OPEN DOORS FOR ME TO SPEAK IN CHAT ROOMS SO WHEN I ENTER A ROOM I WAS CENTER STAGE THANKS TO HOMOPHOBES. YEARS GO BY AND IN THE OUTSIDE WORLD CHANGES BEGAN HAPPENING AND I HEARD PEOPLE SAYING WHAT I SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SOMEHOW THEY LEARNED KNEW OR STUDIED AND FOUND OUT WHAT I LEARNED. AND SO 25/75 MORE YEARS 60/40 THEN 2000 HOVERING AROUND 50//50 PRO AND CONS CONCERNING GAYS, SOMETIME 60/40 ON A LOTS OF GAY ISSUES BUT MARRIAGE WAS A 40/60 THEN MARRIAGE ISSUE BEGAN TO EVEN OUT AND STATES BEGAN LEGALIZING FORMS OF GAY MARRIAGES. THIS WEEK WE HEAR ON CNN “CORE VALUE STATE” GAY LEGAL MARRIAGE. BEFORE THE STATE THAT WENT GAY MARRIAGE OR SIMILAR WERE FRINGE STATES. DID I INFLUENCE ANYTHING I DOUBT IT BUT IT IS A FACT WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF USA GAY MARRIAGES. WHAT A IMMENSE DIFFERENCE 30 YEARS MADE. NOT EVEN MENTIONING CANADA ALREADY GAY MARRIAGES AND OTHER COUNTRIES. LETS LOOK AT OTHER MINORITIES BLACK WORK LONG AND HARD TILL TODAY WE HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT, YET MANY BLACKS MAKE YOUR HATRED OF GAYS LOOKS COOK AND DESIRABLE. THEY QUICKLY FORGOT CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION NOT SO LONG AGO. WHAT I AM SAYING THE FIRST POSITIVE WA IN 1948 WHEN ONE WOMAN SAID IT WAS ENOUGH AND BEGAN RESEARCHING HEALTHY GAYS TILL GOD GAY PASTORS BACK TO GAYS IN 1967 AND 68 TILL TODAY STATE BY STATE 10 STATES HAVE SOME FORM OF LEGAL MARRIAGE LIKE LAWS ON THE BOOKS MY STATE IS ABOUT TO ADD TO A LAW TO MAKE IT EXACTLY LIKE MARRIAGE WITH A DIFFERENT NAME. THE WORDS PEOPLE ARE USING IN EDUCATING PEOPLE TO KNOW GAY IS NOT SIN IS LIKE THEY COPIED IT FROM ME. THIS MEANS ANYONE CAN STUDY AND FIND WHAT I FOUND. WHAT I TELL YOU ABOUT THE VERSES ARE TRUTH AND ABOUT GAYS ARE TRUTH, THAT IS WHY WE ARE AT A STRONG 50/50 NEARLY ACROSS THE BOARD AND IN MOST CAST 60/40 PRO GAY. ONLY THING YOU HAVE IS TO SAY THE LAST DAYS ARE COMING SO GAYS WILL GET WORSE. THERE ARE NOT MORE GAYS JUST MORE INFO.
Please feel free to correct me on any of the topics discussed, and remember: if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then its probably a duck!
YOU ARE RIGHT ON THAT IF IT LOOK LIKE HATE AND WALKS LIKE HATE AND TALKS LIKE HATE IT MUST BE HATE.
May God bless and forgive you
DO YOU NOTICE EVEN IN YOU’RE ATTEMPT AT A SALUTATION YOU CONDEMN GAYS.
JAN. 27, 1974 AT 9:45pm I ACCEPTED JESUS PRAYING A PRAYER LIKE THIS WITH ABOUT 100 OTHER IN A TBN PROPHESY RALLY BY DOUG CLARK IN HAWTHORN CA.
God be merciful to me a sinner! I believe Christ died on the Cross for me, that God rose him on the 3rd day, and that His Precious Blood will cleanse me from all my sins. Forgive me of my sins and come into my heart as my Lord and my Savior. Help me Lord to do thy will each day. In Jesus name I pray. Amen.
I GOT WATER BAPTIZED A FEW MONTHS LATER AND COMMITTED MYSELF TO JESUS 100% (WHICH WAS ALREADY MY LIFE BUT NEVER PRAYED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED) AT A SPECIAL GUEST SPEAKER ON THE HOLY SPIRIT LASTING A WEEK OF WORKSHOPS THE FINAL EVENING WORSHIP IT WAS ASK ALL WANTING TO COMMENT 100% THEIR LIVES TO CHRIST COME FORWARD. HEY I MEANT IT AND SURE I WILL HAPPILY PUBLICALLY FOLLOW THROUGH WITH SUCH A LIFE COMMITMENT. I HAVE NOT WAVERED FROM THAT COMMITMENT TO THIS DAY. STILL SO HARD TO BELIEVE THAT IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE ME ON MY WALK WITH JESUS WHY DON’T YOU BELIEVE THOSE THAT SEEN ME AT EVERY CHURCH GATHERING. PASTORS FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE COMING TO ME WHEN THEY ARE HAVING TROUBLES IN THE CHURCH AND FEEL THEY NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO. 3000 PEOPLE IN THIS ONE CHURCH THAT HAD A GUEST SPEAKER THAT ENDED WITH BIG LINES WRITING HIM A CHECK FOR $200 HOW MANY CHRISTIANS GOT UP TO GIVE HIM MONEY HOPING AS HE TOLD THEM THEY WOULD GET MONEY. THE PASTOR SAW SO MANY IN LINE SOME HOW CAME OVER TO ME VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PERSON’S MESSAGE AND NEEDED TO TELL SOMEONE, I THOUGHT WHY ME SURE I KNEW HIS HEART AND HE WAS REALLY A GOOD PASTOR AND THIS SORT OF THING WOULD BE HARD TO SWALLOW BUT THIS SOT OF THINGS WAS FAIRLY COMMON PASTOR THAT DID NOT SEE THE WORD GAY IN MY NAME SAW GOD IN ME AS WELL AS EVERYWHERE I TURNED CHRISTIANS DID THE SAME. SOME SUSPECTED I WAS GAY WELL THERE I WAS WEEK AFTER WEEK WITH MY LOVER WHAT DO YOU EXPECT. MY LOVER WAS IN THE CHOIR AND THE MUSIC PASTOR CAME TO US 9HE WAS MARRIED) HE SAID HE HAS NO PROBLEM ABOUT GAYS BUT BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO LET THE PASTOR KNOW. (NOT THE SAME CHURCH AS THE PREVIOUS MENTIONED PASTOR. SO MANY TIMES IN VARIOUS CHURCHES PLENTY OF PEOPLE JUST KNEW AND WERE SUPPORTIVE.
TELL ME WHY HOMOPHOBES JUST HAVE TO REJECT A GAY PERSON THAT ACCEPTED JESUS WITH TONS OF SIGNS FOLLOWING AND A DEFINITE 180 DEGREE TURN AROUND IN THEIR LIVES AS NEEDING TO BE TOLD ASK FOR FORGIVENESS. IT IS AGAIN TOPPING YOUR WORDS WITH ANOTHER INSULT.
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