Sunday, February 3, 2013
Revelation specific time for the Rapture
Saturday, February 2, 2013
Romans 1:26-28
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 4:44 PM
To: gays4jesus@yahoo.com
Subject: Question
Just read your article about "Intercessory Prayer" and was glad to hear someone define it correctly ... most Christians are totally unaware or even care for that matter!
The reason I'm writing is this:
In all sincerity and honesty (i.e without judgement or debate), would you mind giving me an explanation of Romans 1:26-28 ... it certainly appears that God doesn't "approve" of homosexuality. Like I said, I ask this in all honesty without debate or judgement.
Thank you,
Tim
Monday, December 17, 2012
12-16-12 Doma ScapeGoat Part 1 | Seattle Community Media
Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Derenberger study against gays
Reviewing my blog I see that you were very much against gays and had many fa
If you finally learned Bible truth concerning gays you can simply tell those sending emails that you are calling spam (it can’t be spam if they are emailing you because of your study on homosexuals) that you are very sorry and very wrong about gays and your old belief system of lies about gays. This would be a good witness, but if you still hold your false doctrine about gays then my blog on that topic is still as relevant as when I wrote it. If you did not want your name to be out on the internet you would have chosen a non-intrusive name. Example why would David Howell Petraeus use his real name or email address that can track him easily if he is going to commit adultery and use an email account to correspond with the adulteress? If you were going to say gay is sin in the manner you did no matter how generic you make it you should expect a rebuttal. The news today does not keep secrets even when very personal. You did not talk about anything personal about your life that would for sure need to be kept confidential. You openly declared the results of your study, this is a very credible public discussion topic you wrote on. Now that you told me you are getting fanfare you should be praising God how many people he is sending you to witness to. Why are you turning responses into a negative thing? You can help them or they can help you. If some are horrible to you just imagine your study on homosexuals condemns 700 million of them so much as saying they are going to hell for if you say the Bible condemns it that is exactly what you are saying to all gays that they are going to hell.
Your email to me today does not say you had a change of heart. 52% in Washington state had a change of heart, that is up by 42% since the 1980s. 7 states now have gay marriage praise God. You don’t get to that without Christians learning the truth and accept gays as people just like themselves.
I do appreciate your response to let me know my blog is reaching out, feedback is always welcome…
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From: service@foxyform.com [mailto:service@foxyform.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:06 AM
To: gaysforjesus647@gmail.com
Subject: A message from your contact form
Name: Chris
E-Mail: cderenberger@gmail.com
Subject: question about blog
Message: Hi, my name is Chris and a while back, we had a discussion about our opinions on the topic of being gay and a christian.
I have a request to make.. you posted our conversation on your blog that includes my email address found at:
http://gays4jesus.blogspot.com/2010/08/chris-derenberger-study-against-gays.html
Because of this, I have been getting a lot of spam over the months. Can you please remove this post? If you don\'t want to remove the post, I kindly ask that you remove my email address where listed on the page along with my last name which is also included in the domain name.
Our discussion was between me and you and I would really appreciate my personal email not being freely available to everyone.
Thanks!
Derenberger
Monday, October 15, 2012
Should I attend churches that are hateful?
Should I attend churches that are hateful?
From: P…l W… [mailto:pw….@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 1:45 AM
To: gaysforjesus647@gmail.com
Subject: Hi blessing in God’s name
I am writing to ask should I sit under and attend churches were gays are critised so much and condemned. Some of the things these preachers teach can be quite hatefull and yet still the anointing shows up and people get saved and filled with the spirit is this god or a false spirit.
I am straight but am convinced that god saves all, but I can't understand how god blessed the work of preachers who can be so hateful surely the ministers aren't blessed because the hate they preach is god. Please advise as I am praying to be baptized in the spirit but dont want to be prayed for by someone who god is not blessing because they preach hate of others.
P… W…
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Yes it is difficult to understand why God blesses so many churches. However, he is faithful to his promises and where 2 or more are gathered then he is in the mist of them. On the other hand we have prophecies that that show as many as 2/3 will turn their backs on Jesus. Most likely because soon messengers will go forth with power from God. Many saints in the past has prayed for answers for the torment cause to them by the Church with no real sign that God answered. But God reserved the day for his answers. This is a 1260 day period that starts at the first day of the TRIB. There are 38,000 Christian denominations. We are free to worship in just about any way we want and like.
Often going to a church that is more free of hate doctrines seem to back away from otherwise correct doctrines and worship practices. It seems church that don’t hate seem to feel Acts Chapter Two doesn’t exist. If you can handle the redneck doctrines sitting in an Acts ch 2 church is ok. I make that attempt from time to time, but because I feel call to preach on TV on these issues when I go to try to worship I end up sending emails that at best would not help me to have a good experience at the otherwise great church. I tell myself just go worship, but never happens I must attempt to point out problems I see. Jesus is about to return and it seems like these otherwise wonder churches are playing games as though Jesus won’t return for quite some time. Again, it is prophetic, the CHURCH has to give the final approval so anti-christ can be dictator of the world. Once that approval is given anti-christ can kill the TWO Witness then declare himself god. The coming move of God is to send out restorers to the 2/3 that turned their backs on Jesus. Jesus does not want to lose even one of them so. They will think they have no chance to come back to Jesus, but many will receive the restorers.
For me I need to do my TV thing (nearly 2000 TV programs and this week I was even on 5 times praise the Lord also 24/7 online). It will be hard to find a good place to worship but there are lots of church that are plenty ok. Just typing gay friendly church will locate them if you are looking for a church that won’t condemn gays, but they probably won’t be into Acts ch 2.
You can receive the Baptism just by asking Jesus to do it. It can happen before you finish a couple words of your prayer or it might take much pleading and whining to Jesus and time. I say whining because King David begged the Lord while his son was yet alive, but finally the son died so he got up and went back to business. Sometimes faith is needed and so having hands laid on often works, it is still Jesus baptizing not the one laying on hands. At the end on my TV programs I give the opportunity to be baptized it is one of the things I always add before signing off. Sometimes touching something as a faith to a prayer so right now touch the sentence I pray for you to be baptized. “Paul Ward BE BAPTIZED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT IN JESUS NAME!”
It is very possible you are already Baptized and just are not acting on it. Being baptized in the Holy Spirit is no magic and the Holy Spirit will not just zap you to speak. He can and might at times. But not all and maybe even most Christian do not have a dramatic zapping and bonk they are baptized. It can be extremely deep in ecstasy in the presence and love of Jesus Christ. You can be slain in the spirit like ka boom laid flat out on the floor jabbering in an unknown language. God likes a show and knows we do to and to see this or feel it is absolutely amazing.
BUT, again you operate in your own will and you have to will you vocal chords and mouth to speak when even you like. When you go talk to someone you have no problem just walking over and saying what you had on your mind to say to them. Likewise at will you can speak in tongues. You just need to speak once you got it going it will flow. Get into a private space and be a blithering fool (nobody around to hear) practice as you need to get comfortable that it is the Holy Spirit not you speaking a language you do not understand. The Holy Spirit will always 24/7 be there and he will always pray through the language Jesus gave you. You have plenty of input since being Baptized in the Holy Spirit WILL enter you into the spiritual world and now you are subject to that. Your spirit can influence, demon spirits, things that go bump in the night and who knows all that is in what you enter into.
Most Christian ignore most of the operation of the Holy Spirit and often can assume if it came out it is of God and forgo the BIBLE. Everything still is subject to the Bible. You can get very terrified and very blessed. The spirit world does not comply to the physical world. You actually can go a trillion miles in an instant. Key is Keep Jesus first and in mind, demons must flee, but they will take advantage of everything they can.
You can sit back like most Christian and play sing in the spirit and intercessory prayers and think that’s it and all you want, but all things that were made were made by Jesus and so all things are there and we ain’t dead yet or risen yet so we may get more than we thought we would. With the Bible first (KJV) you can balance the wonders of God. Using the Holy Spirit illegally (non-Christians) you can create working religions that have power. The Holy Spirit is also the mojo of all things like electricity plug any device into and it works. Other religions plug into the Holy Spirit and so effectively produce an effectual religion. Jesus Baptizes you in the Holy Spirit and Bible knowledge is not a pre-condition so rednecks can generally operate well, but often end up hurting untold millions with assuming the power of the feeling the Baptism gives you as confirming your personal opinions is God’s opinions too.
The feeling is mainly Jesus is inside you with his personal love to sup with you that feels stronger than the comforter you get at Salvation. If you get carried away in daily work or play and maybe don’t relate to feeling Jesus presence then at any moment you stop to feel Jesus he is there waiting 24/7.
Along with Baptism come gifts/talents and/or enhancements to already known gifts/talents you have. Most the time your life remains on course and is not likely to change in a major way unless they are serious issues needing repair. You most likely will not fill stadiums and have 1000s coming to Christ as you witness. But your ministry will more meaningful at the least. Your secret prayers may move mountains for others and change a great deal of lives you will never see and never get credit for. Not to think I made any difference I assume it is coincidence. But I was as a fact the first opening gay Christian when the first chat rooms appeared on line. I was daily in several rooms at a time that had over 50 Christians. For years no other even gay person let alone a Christ gay came noticeably into the room. I was pounced upon instantly and for hours it became as it were my room because the entire conversation was to attack me and so I had the door swung wide open to witness on Bible face concerning gays and last days stuff. At the time both issues were so radically different from the church I went (Assemblies of God) but I believed what I was saying based on the Bible and so many other things I believed God showed me in my life. My estimate was 1974 it was about zero percent anything gay supporting publically and 0% on many of the prophecies for endtimes.
As the year went by I continued in those rooms daily and developed my website and went on TV and I saw supporting gay issues increasing till today it is over 50% will support gay marriage laws. The public support, court cases and everywhere were stating exactly what I had been preaching all these years and as time goes on substantial shifts in prophecies were happening too. I am surprised to hear on TV ministries prophecy preaching steering towards what I have been saying. Again I doubt I had any influence it is just amazing to hear people sounding like they are quoting me. I praise God people are seeing and understanding these issues. Whether My ministry had an effect I may never know, but that is what praying in the Spirit (tongues) is about. The Holy Knows what to pray for and there is a God ordained feature in humans praying audibly that moves mountains. The Holy Spirit uses your audible voice to pray into existence miracles. By your faith in yielding your vocal chords to the Holy Spirit mountains are moved.
Sunday, September 2, 2012
Operation BlueBeam
http://seattlecommunitymedia.org/series/gays-jesus/episode/09-02-12-operation-bluebeam
Sunday, July 22, 2012
We are the Last Generation of Christians
Hi, Happy to correspond with you on service to God through Jesus. However, should your intentions be seeking financial or material support from me I can in no way support that endeavor. I receive many many emails from ministries seeking $$$ from me saying they like my site and ministry, but in fact are just attempting to scam me and apparently never read a page on my site. Having said that I would be very very happy minister online using my live broadcast 24/7 (free) to preach or answer questions or to correspond with answers to many questions concerning these Last Days and other Bible issues to your church or group. I do travel and if that was near you I would happily accept an invitation to preach, otherwise it is a no expenses out of my pocket regarding any invitations. I believe Jesus and the KJV Bible and I am Pentecostal. I especially believe we are human beings, we are not a book, we are individuals and if someone comes to me and their speech is has no individual qualities about who they are and only thing out of their mouths is quoting a verse or some sort of phrase ”bless you and your family” or praises or other words that make it sound like I am talking to a recording or a Robot or a Muslim, then I am not interested in the lack of human ness being expressed. I do praise God and do love Jesus and I do know the Bible concerning God’s blessings. Jesus died for humans. He created us to have a personal relationship with him and others. In preaching we can teach the Bible, but in correspondence such as email it is a waste of value time and nothing can be accomplished if all that is communicated is more rhetoric that just seems like you are pretending to be a good servant of the Lord. Over 3 billion will be killed before the Rapture so playing church is not my cup of tea. Jesus preached then healed, he baptizes with the Holy Spirit we should do this too. When Jesus talked to people he knew them and about their lives, he did not just babble out praise God, Glory to God, and may God bless you. He treated people as individuals who have a personal relationship with him. We are in high danger that will strike soon what are you doing about that? Yes let’s send our kids to Bible camp and have events to have fun, but never ever forget we are not living in yesterday with decades left and should not send out youth to be slaughtered with no armor of God or knowledge of what to expect so they can defend their selves and so keep the faith till Jesus comes.
Every message should have these things:
1) Call to Salvation (sinners prayer invitation) (explanation this starts personal relationship with Jesus).
2) Physical healing by laying on of hands.
3) Invitation to have Jesus Baptize people in the Holy Spirit (includes praising God and Jesus).
4) Reminder modern versions are satan counterfeits and Rapture includes billions are killed before it happens.
5) Water Baptism at some point after Salvation.
Not critical:
6) Non-intrusive lovegift request with no guilt attached to those that don’t give.
7) Messages on endtime. Pastors and teachers are responsible to do the best they can so their flock to survive. We live in a different age than our ancestors we are the Last General of Christians. Stop preaching like previous generations. Social issues are not to be policed. Being Born again polices one’s social life not a pastor or minister. The time ahead will dramatically change ministers preaching style and message. They will not have a choice, it will hit them as a blunt force in a day’s time. God is not concerned with churches with incorrect doctrines, just that their doors are open as many people with clamber in to lean about Jesus in those days and soon your message will adjust to that need as your old style is broken and shattered. Ministers can begin now and avoid the radical shock of sudden adjustment. Jesus is returning and it is like birth pains this means he is not coming tonight we don’t feel much pain yet.
You wrote: (from the Philippines)
Hello Pastor John,
Greetings to you in the mighty name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!
I would like to take this time and say I thank God for your wonderful website. I learn some of inspiring spiritual words that can empower the true identity the fullest spiritual living in our church and bring us into the next level of our spiritual foundation that will fulfill our spiritual destiny. I see God's hand upon your ministerial calling to extend your hand by spreading the word of God in HIS kingdom to our Nation Philippines without any discrimination. And would like further to tie to join with you to make the kingdom of God be whole in HIS glory and this will be a truly a great adventure of faith and prayer as well. However, We are all in a journey of God's relationship with Jesus and our prayer is that you'll see Jesus in us in the way we serve each other working together in the Lord and we pray that God will bless us all and looking to hear from you too.
So, Yes I would love to work with you and anyone that is seeking a deeper walk with Jesus and ministering in this age where we are the Last Generation of Christians before Jesus returns.
John
Openly Gay Pentecostal TV Preacher
since mid-1985, over 50 programs
in other countries
The Stables Ministries
