FROM ROME

Hi I am in Rome touring all the sights here. This has been a really good trip I started in Pisaand did a TV program at the Leaning Tower. I never seen so manypeople as was true during my whole trip. I then went to Florence to see the original statue of David. From there I went to Venice walking for 13 hours carrying my backpack with me. What a day, also rode on the water bus for at least 3 to 4 hours of that day. now I am in Rome and have already seen the Coloseuim and Roman Forum. I did a program in the top section there and at the ruin of Cybele Temple (mother of the gods). Then I also did programs at the Spanish Steps and the Fountain of Trevi also the Pantheon, TO MY SURPRIZE I FOUND I COULD ALSO DO A PROGRAM INSITE Saint Peters Basilica. Huge place. Today I did part a a program at teh largest Catacomb in Rome where the guide said it is a false tale saying Christians hid here during persecution. Where Christins where pesecuted inside Romes walls Rome had laws to repect the buried died including Chrisstian dead and so Christians cold bury their dead and honor them but were not hiding there. However it was a very interesting tour.

TOMARROW I will go to Pompei if all works well as so far it has.
gays4jesus

Temple of Cybele
(Gays For Jesus will soon be going to this location)
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The Temple of Cybele or Temple of Magna Mater was a temple on thePalatine Hill in Rome. This, the main temple of Cybele or Magna Materin Rome, was erected after the Roman embassy brought back her icon from Pessinus in 204 BC. It was dedicated on 11th April, 191 BC, by the praetor Marcus Junius Brutus, on which occasion the ludi Megalenses were instituted (Liv. loc. cit.; Fast. Praen. ap. CIL I2 pp235, 314‑315, cf. p251 = VI.32498; Fast. Ant. ap. NS 1921, 91) and celebrated in front of the temple (Cic. de har. resp. 24; cf. for site Ov. Fast. II.55; Mart. VII.73.3). (See: [1])It burned down in 111 BC, though the statue of Quinta Cloelia inside was undamaged. A Metellus, probably the consul of 110 BC, restored it, but it burned down again and was restored by Augustus in 3 (Val. Max. I.8.11; Obseq. 99; Ov. Fast. IV.347‑348; Mon. Anc. IV.8). Surviving intact from the Augustan era until the fourth century (Not. Reg. X), it is referred to incidentally as a place of assignation by Juvenal (IX.23), during the events of 38 BC (Cass. Dio XLVIII.43.4), and in the third century (Hist. Aug. Claud. 4; Aurel. 1).The stone needle or icon kept there itself is described by a late writer (Arnob. adv. gentes VII.49) as small and set in a silver statue of the goddess (cf. Herodianus ab exc. d. Marci I.11; Arnob. V.5). It was perhaps removed by Elagabalus to his temple on the Palatine (Hist. Aug. Elag. 3; cf. LR 134‑138; but cf. BC 1883, 211; HJ 53‑54, n44).At the top of the Scalae Caci, on the west corner of the Palatine, are the ruins of an ancient temple near which have been found inscriptions relating to Magna Mater (CIL VI.496, 1040, 3702 =30967; NS 1896, 186; cf. CIL XII.405), a portion of a colossal female figure seated on a throne, and a fragment of a base with the paws of lions, the regular attendants of the goddess. These ruins consist of a massive podium made of irregular pieces of tufa and peperino laid in thick mortar, and fragments of columns and entablature. The walls of the podium are 3.84 metres thick (those of the cella were somewhat thinner) on the sides and 5.50 in the rear, p325but this unusual thickness is because the rear wall is double, with an air space, 1.80 metre wide, between the two parts. This wall was faced on the outside with stucco, not with opus quadratum. The total length of the temple was 33.18 metres and its width 17.10. It was prostyle hexastyle, of the Corinthian order, and was approached by a flight of steps extending entirely across the front. From the rear wall of the cella projects the base of a pedestal on which the stone needle probably stood. The concrete of the podium belongs to the time of Augustus (AJA 1912, 393), and since the remaining architectural fragments are of peperino, it is evident that the restoration of that period was carried out with the material of the original structure.2 The character of these remains and the inscriptions and objects found here make it extremely probable, to say the least, that this is the temple of Magna Mater, an identification that is strongly supported by the evidence of a coin of the elder Faustina (Cohen, Faust. sen. 55). This represents a temple of the Corinthian order, with curved roof, and a flight of steps on which is a statue of Cybele with a turreted crown enthroned between lions. The temple is also represented in a relief in the Villa Medici, formerly attributed to the Ara Pacis (SScR 69). (For the complete description of the ruins and argument for identification, see Mitt. 1895, 1‑28; 1906, 277; for the coins, ib. 1908, 368‑374; in general, HJ 51‑4; Rosch. II.1666‑1667; Gilb. III.104‑107; Graillot, Cybele (Bibl. Ec. Franç. 107, 320‑326; SScR 247‑249).)A seated statue of a goddess in the Palatine Antiquarium is now accepted to be of Cybele, and may be from the temple complex. (See:[2])
(from Google Earth)

Did you know the ancient fertility goddess had many names?
“The religions which developed these ideas were all based on a maternal figure, found under different names throughout a great part of the Near East.
To the Phoenicians she was Astarte; to the Phrygians, Cybele; to the Babylonians, Ishtar; to the Thracians, Bendis; to the Cretans, Rhea; to the Ephesians, Artemis; to the Canaanites, Atargatis; to the Persians, Anaitis; to the Cappadocians, Ma. But though her names differ, her attributes are the same - she is always the mother who succours and helps, and who bestows fertility.
This composite figure was generally known as Magna Mater, the great mother, and it was said that she was mother of all the other gods...
From: http://www.gaychristian101.com/Romans-1.html

I am excited about going to Rome this March 16th, especially because of the many sites of ancient fertility temples. I have talked about these temples and what Paul saw with his eyes while in Rome and while in Corinth. Now, finally I get to go. I will shoot hopefully at least 10 programs in Italy. I am not really going to give you any detailed history lessons about this country other than this is where the anti-gay doctrine was invented by a few powerful Catholic leaders.
Many have told me they like it when I am in a foreign country using it for the background of my weekly TV programs. I am planning a trip to China so some day you will see my program coming from the Great Wall. Of course I’m willing to go anywhere to preach to anyone if invited whether in the USA or outside the USA. (conditions will be required of course). Just contact me.

Nearly all gay condemnation originates because of the above article on Cybele so it is good to know your topic when talking about sodomites. Cybele was a real center of main line worship in the areas Paul spent a lot of time. Real gays also were in Rome and Corinth so you can also see the difference between gay love and male temple prostitutes in ancient times.

Please comment and invite me to your church or group. (conditions apply)
http://gays4jesus.com

Heaven's Way Ministries condemns gays

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-----Original Message-----
From: heavens_way_ministry@yahoo.com [mailto:heavens_way_ministry@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:25 PM
To: gays4jesus@gays4jesus.com
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u sir have a reprobate mind .. just like ray boltz .. people whom think you can be a christian and live as a gay person are truly deceived. a read how GOD created male female .. .GE:1:27.and the purpose.ge:1:28

also read le;20:13 Le:18:22 1co:6:9

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Did you know the ancient fertility goddess had many names?

“The religions which developed these ideas were all based on a maternal figure, found under different names throughout a great part of the Near East.

To the Phoenicians she was Astarte; to the Phrygians, Cybele; to the Babylonians, Ishtar; to the Thracians, Bendis; to the Cretans, Rhea; to the Ephesians, Artemis; to the Canaanites, Atargatis; to the Persians, Anaitis; to the Cappadocians, Ma. But though her names differ, her attributes are the same - she is always the mother who succours and helps, and who bestows fertility.

I did not know who Ray Boltz was so as I ask everyone that talk to me on these issues study to know what you are talking about:

A MESSAGE FROM RAY

A few years ago, I made the decision to retire from contemporary Christian music. I had won awards, performed in front of thousands of people, and sold millions of records. Still, I believed that if people knew who I really was, I would never be accepted. During the last few years, I have learned that there are many people who feel the same way I did. One church in particular has helped me in many ways. The Metropolitan Community Church (www.mccchurch.org) was started forty years ago by Rev. Troy Perry in the Los Angeles area and has an outreach to the LGTB (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender) community. I am happy to announce that I have accepted an invitation to perform at two of their churches. On September 14th, I will be singing at the Jesus Metropolitan Community Church (www.jesusmcc.org) in Indianapolis at 6:00p.m. On September 21st, I'll be singing at the Metropolitan Community Church of Washington, D.C. (www.mccdc.com) at 3:00p.m.

What does , reprobate mean?

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; (KJV)

96 adokimos (ad-ok'-ee-mos); from 1 (as a negative particle) and 1384; unapproved, i.e. rejected; by implication, worthless (literally or morally): KJV-- castaway, rejected, reprobate.

So, Ray Boltz who performed in front of thousands of people, and sold millions of records, is reprobate? I wonder how a person is reprobate when they have been so popular and was such a hit amongst Christian? Just because one day he stood up to tell the world, he is gay instantaneously reprobate.

Heavens Way could have at least given some background on what made a famous person well accepted by Christians to be reprobate. Ray went onto to continue his God given talents to the gay Christian community.

Also, Heaven’s Way says I am reprobate though I am the longest running TV program on an entire TV station (24 years every week preaching). I in very short period advanced to manager of a very large retail store. Many occasions God raised me to high responsibilities. So, how can a Christian place the term reprobate on gays? FACT is in a case example couple decades ago in Washington State Oregon Christians tried to get a law to be voted on to take gay rights away from Washington. This group wanted to place gays in a grouping with sex with animals. The only way they could do this was also add all the minority groups in as well, like various cultures from foreign countries. Generally, if you were a str8 white person you would have rights everyone else looses rights. Research on that law showed that if passed it would require all gays to be fired from government jobs immediately. Also anyone not reporting a gay person so they could be fired would also be fired. It showed that the health care system would collapse as well as many areas that is design for human care and compassion. My point here is there are 650 million gays in the world and so plenty to see if reprobate is applicable.

I know those that think gay is sin only see the word GAY and this convinces them that the definition of GAY is just another word for sin and reprobateness. There simply is no way to get a person that thinks gay is sin to explain how they come up with this. It would be such a wonder if such a Christian would supply facts, but that is a fantasy wish.

Deceived?

Deceived is a very strange word to come out of Christian that think gay is sin. So much history on the evolution of this false doctrine “gay is sin”. It has a specific beginning. A little over 700 years ago a few powerful Catholic leaders wanted a way to purge a person from power that did not have the same ideals as they did. They needed a scandal. So, they gathered together 12 verses that implied some sort of same sex sex and since they were the teachers and no Christian can defy the Vatican it was easy to convince the Catholic world gay is sin and begin to purge people from power. This often failed because their enemies also used that doctrine on them.

It took 100 years to fully be adopted by Protestants. Then when a group of puritans headed for America because Christian in Europe persecuted them they brought with them a most heinous version of the anti-gay doctrine. Later American Christians also hated these puritans even though they still love to say American was founded in Christianity, though it was the puritans which now they disagree with on many accounts of doctrine so much so they are no more than a Christian cult. It is these Puritan that so conditioned all Americans to this heinous attack on the gay community and blinded them from researching history and studying and hearing testimonies of gays.

Who is deceived?
Arsenokoites Occurs Only 76 Times In Extant Greek Manuscripts In The First 2100 Years Of Greek History

It would be nice if Christians that think gay is sin can go to historical documents and produce this word to be a word that is about real gays in a loving caring long term relationships str8s would call marriage if it were a man and a woman. Jesus spoke words and these also are history that cannot be changed. That is what is good about history it is a done deal and so anyone can study it. Covering it up demand it to be uncovered. We know so much more about real history than just a short time ago. We also know great details about events that previously were just a short paragraph in school.

“Born Eunuch” is a phrase that is extremely significant. Studies into 10s of 1000s of ancient document around Jesus’ day that have a very very strict criteria to discover real gays in Jesus day find “Born Eunuch” means equivalent to gays we know today. Meaning the attraction like str8 have to opposite sex they have towards same sex. This is not the universal sexual immorality str8 recognize so easily in the str8 community like adultery, rape, gang rape, prostitutions and many other abuses. Sexual immorality is a human thing not an orientation thing. If you are human, you could commit and probably will or have committed sexual immorality. An orientation is based in the pursuit of love and marriage and the requirement of this term marriage is not reflective of one’s wishes. It is easy to understand what is involved in marriage. Meeting someone, dating them, falling in love with them, then marrying them. These steps often get nasty and hard and painful, but this does not stop its pursuit. Most str8s go through a number of partners before finding one to settle down with and even these often (60%) fail. Yet it still seems very easy for str8s to recognize the short comings of dating and marrying, but maintain generally it is right in God’s site and the bumps along the way are just that. WHY then does this change with gays? Why do Christians so often merge all sex acts into one act and call it an orientation? Gang Rape, Male temple prostitutes, expensive call boys (often str8 men are at least the clients of these prostitutes by fact of history’s documentations) be made the same as a marriage relationship?

If you say gay is in the Bible (and it is, just not in the verses used to condemn gays) then also produce facts. Bring forth your research and study or others that have done this so that gays and str8s can see real facts and real correct translations of ancient Bible words. Part of the problem is also built into modern versions. This is a serious deception to most Christian whether gay or str8. Modern version has history going back to Westcott and Hort then back to the 2^nd century. These bibles are so deceptive I call them satan counterfeit bibles.

GE:1:27.and the purpose.ge:1:28

These verses are part of this 700 yr old false doctrine I talked about above. And as usual Homophobes just can’t bring themselves to explain how they get gays into the verses.

Gen 1:27-28 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. (KJV)

This is a complete cop out because it does not condemn gays and does not mention a million other issues in the world that would have to be addressed because they would also have to be sin because they were not mentioned either. What’s more:

Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. KJV)

This Hebrew word RIB has some very important consequences in translating it to a most accurate modern day word we can understand as to the extent of its meaning. The best word today for it is CELL FROM THAT RIB. This means for all intensive purposes Steve was indeed in the DNA and this is not an area of guessing or wishing but FACT.

also read le;20:13 Le:18:22 1co:6:9

These verses again are in the 14 verses anti-gay doctrine. 1 Cor 6:9 was added in 1850 at a clergy convention because prior to this date it was taught masturbators would not inherit and they 100% every human commits this act so heaven would be empty. In 1946, the two Greek words were removed in modern version Bible and inserted was a word that was not in the Bible and though Paul did have as many as 9 Greek words to describe gays Paul used the word for male temple prostitute. Paul walked the streets in both Corinth and Rome and saw a fertility temple on every corner, which all had their fertility male temple prostitutes that their clients were most likely str8 men. Again the main Greek word is documented only 76 times in 2100 years and none of these documents show any sign or hint to real gays.

Both Leviticus accounts require study to learn meaning. Moses was leading the Hebrew people to the Promised Land. During those 40 years Hebrew men are known to have stopped off often at fertility temple along the way for ritual sex with their sacred male prostitutes.

The word man in Hebrew is significant. Many words both in Greek and Hebrew have a few words where as English has one word for all meanings. Example everyone knows is LOVE. Greek has up to 5 words English requires additional words to explain the one word we have.

The word man that was used in both Leviticus accounts means “practicing str8 man” meaning nearly 100% of one side of the sex acts were done by married Hebrew men. (Believing they would receive blessing for their family and greed). Abomination in every use in the Bible both Greek and Hebrew again are very specific and had to include acts that was part of the process of worshipping other gods and goddesses. There is no leeway to input additional meanings like it was just a disgusted hated thing. Now one verse in the Bible uses a form of the word abomination that actually does mean disgusted hated thing, but this was used to describe eating foods sanctified to other gods.

The womankind word I s define upfront as first an adulterous woman, this is in line with God is a Jealous God and so going after other gods is adultery as you belong to God. God often describes his people’s relationship to him as a marriage.

The second man in these chapters is the sodomite (sacred male temple prostitute). This is so easy to see without going very deep into research. Paul visited a temple in fact the most famous in Corinth. It had over 1000 temple prostitutes and it also had that statue to the unknown god Paul used in a later book.

Homophobes have one thing in common they want gays to read their verses as though the implication that gay is sin is some sort of magical fact and reading would magically convince a gay person to be str8. However, like in Romans 1:18-32 to a gay person this is so disgusting that any human could possibly think and say those acts describe gays. They just do not even remotely describe gays. The common thread of homophobes is to call gays gang rapists and male temple prostitutes and engaging in mad wild orgies.

People take time to think through your thoughts before you speak them. If you think gay is sin and you have no doubt give us your confidence by showing what made you so sure you are right. To date over 800,000 homophobes has responded to me is some fashion. I have yet not been able to get even one of them, not the most Bible educated to the lay Christian picking up the Bible for the first time to explain how they get sodomite to mean gay or that gang rape is a great way the Bible condemn gays. It is always an assumed deal for homophobes that requires no explanation more than God hates it, it’s in the Bible, or here is the verse read it so simple.

Past this, they want to tell me part A goes in part B as though they are experts in biology. 650 million gays in the world and they want somehow this happened because we somehow chose to sin. That in the deepest farthest places on Earth from modern conviences people somehow magically chose to be attracted to same sex. Jesus love gays and is not asking them to change and more than this He got big plans for the Church concerning gays which homophobes don’t have a clue because they can’t get past their hatred to see the love God will be showing them through gays.

Modern versions verses KJV Bibles

My reply to some concerned about what Bible is correct:

From: Allan In Washington State [mailto:simba601@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:54 AM
To: gays4jesus@gays4jesus.com
Subject: BIBLE

I find it interesting you say the KJV of the Bible is the only correct Bible to be used.

Interesting? It actually makes complete sense that satan would counterfeit God’s word. And it makes complete sense that God would keep confusion down to a minimum by having one solid Bible version

We know it is a translation... Have you looked through the American Standard for the Old testiment and the Worrell for the New Testiment?

Knowing KJV is a translation is a no brainer. There is no original and the original was in Hebrew and Greek and bit of another language. Therefore, anything to do with the Bible will be a translation.

American Standard is a satan counterfeit and also what ever this Worrell you speak of and so looking through them cannot present anything other than a designed deception.

Do you speak Hebrew or Greek, are you able to read either?

Today and for some decades, but especially since the internet became widely used, knowing Greek or Hebrew is no longer a requirement for studying. There just are too many highly educated language experts available to know exacting meaning of ancient words and phrases. Customs and history is so well documented and at everyone’s finger tips that having a degree also is no longer a requirement to gain expertise on the Bible.

Just wondering before any topic is approached.  Nice to know the foundation of faith.

My foundation in faith covers 36 years in the Assemblies of God, 24 years preaching weekly on TV in three states, and a lifelong quest for truth. I love Jesus dearly and have a very close walk with him. When I accepted Jesus being gay I immediately sought facts concerning gays and the Bible, meaning I nearly lived in Christian book stores reading everything I could about just about everything. Plus, spent so much time in libraries and since the internet have covered so many topics that it would be hard to find something I cannot talk about from some sort of personal research I’ve done.

I do not say lightly that the KJV is the only version that can be called the word of God. My screen name in chat programs “gays4jesus” attracts considerable numbers of all sorts of people from highest level of government to secret services to all manner of other religions and all walks of life. This is just the tip of the iceberg of my experiences with people in the know. All this does not touch my personal walk with Jesus and his confirmation and bringing to me the above so that I can speak with authority on many topics. I am not trying to brag, but I want to make a point that there is tons of background to anything I speak about on TV or on my websites or in person or chatting.

Modern versions were useless pre-Israel becoming a nation. Modern version would be fantastic insight to leaning about God and so at death faith would be retained. Satan has no interests in getting people to Heaven. For his counterfeit Bibles to be effective it has to be in the generation that won’t pass away before Jesus returns. Modern versions are long term conditioning devices that operate subtly. Counterfeits needs to appear as real as is possible. Never is such a massive project of satan with permission from God possible in a few decades or centuries. Satan works thousands of years on projects that will be good only for a few short years.

Modern versions were 100% complete in the second century where it covered just about all of the real thing manuscripts. It was translated to Latin Vulgate and straight way hidden, lost or otherwise not used until the 15^th century when it was found, uncovered, released to the Vatican. The Boss of the Pope (Elite Masons for short) ordered it to become the official Catholic Bible. In the 1880s Westcott and Hort translated it to a strange form of Greek then back to English where it became the official Church of England’s Bible where all modern versions comes from. Modern versions have 50,000 to 80,000 corruptions designed to take Christ out of Jesus generally ineffective until certain great deceptions become seen. Some minor ones already are working in concert with modern versions already. Ready over and over again modern versions conditions your brain so that at the time of other deceptions you will go back to modern version confirming basically that man over there is Jesus after all (antichrist).

Now at the same century exact copies of the originals were translated to Latin Vulgate (RECEIVED TEXT). This was in continued use up to King James decision to authorize the KJV. Several versions of the Rec’d Text were in use and or was used even in English. So there were times that one could have choices of Good Bibles. Problem was too expensive to own and so only wealthy or Church leaders could have a read to others or preach from. KJV had 400 or so mistakes in spelling and a few corruptions in meanings. Within 29 some years most of these were corrected. Later the Font was changed which rendered it readable to today’s English readers.

Because in King James’ days printing presses were in use it was mass-produced and for the first time affordable to most people. This created a decline in other Rec’d Text versions of the day until finally only the KJV was the only readily available version to common folk.

England wanted to revise the KJV to modern English, but Westcott and Hort with their influence evilly actually snuck their version in. These two men hated the KJV with a passion. They also hated what we would call true believers today. It was super modern times in their day, Science increased leaps and bound and most college student thought the KJV was obsolete concerning science facts. The time was ripe for this new version taking so much of the depth of the Word of God out of the Bible.

These two men were not wonderful Christian men just wanting to enrich Christian understanding and knowledge. They had goals and another accomplishment they did was to create the Ghost Club. They were occultists as well and Ghost Club membership was a requirement as it is today for those wanting to join the World Elite rulers that will be controlling the world in antichrist kingdom.

Modern version should make your guts feel so defiled that it would take some time to get over the fool satan took you for and he easily got you to accept modern version as just a different view point of the same material and so a good addition to your Word of God input. I was also so taken in, though I always loved the KJV which I read so many times and was the only Bible I read after accepting Jesus till the NIV came out. I accepted the explanation that all modern versions were simply another angle and all have very very minor corruptions that would not affect meaningfully any chapter of the Bible. I often gave NIVs to those that accepted Jesus through my ministry. It still bothers me a lot remembering I gave those Bibles out and have to trust God to work it out for them.

I have not seen any information to date that supersedes the FACTS that all modern versions are satan counterfeits. The translators of modern versions of course want to say they used the most original forms they could to get to the most accurate Bibles. This simply is not true. A move to discredit the KJV has been underway for decades and especially in the 90s. What more awesome is the facts that turn up to show King James was not of a mostly well known transvestite, but a practicing gay man. This alone has caused many pastors to ban KJV just on that account only.

It is amazing that the only Bible that can be called the Word of God was authorized by a gay man. It almost wipes in the face of those that think gay is sin that God chose King James to give the world the only book Christians should be reading as the Word of God. How hard will it be in the coming days for these Christian to stay faithful till Christ returns if they reject the KJV? Most mock at this idea, but satan is a counterfeiter and counterfeits everything God so why should it be so hard to think he counterfeited the Bible for impact in the Last Days and that why should it be so difficult to see the KJV that has had such an impact on Christianity for centuries to be the Bible God set to represent him when he returns.

John

IDEAS

I am looking for ideas that make a difference and lead to changes and leaps. Jesus is going to return soon and many are not ready, but think they are ready. Even you may think you are ready and even I may think I am ready.

Basics for readiness is simple enough accept Jesus and tell others as comes up.

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (KJV)

We have 2000 years of Christianity and uncountable denominations and offshoots from them, besides those claiming to be independent or non-denominational. We now have arrived at 2008 AD and many claims Jesus will return soon. We have many standard formats of worship within the bounds of Bible oriented churches and organizations that believe the main basic catch all verse.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (KJV)

So does this mean this is all there is? Aren’t we supposedly about to see things that come just before Jesus return? Do we just continue maybe with more emotion or energies our same formats? Do we still go forth having a singing/entertainment, announcements, alter call, sermon, and foyer gathering to chit chat before going to breakfast restaurant afterwards? Or is there more?

I want to brain storm readers for ideas about “WHAT NOW”.

Say you want to preach but have no way to get started in the conventional processes. Like Bible schools then get listed to get interview to be a pastor. Fund yourself a building and pay for ads to gather crowds and hype up your message to get people excited to come. Stand on a street corner preaching doom and gloom. Sit in a park wearing Christian paraphernalia hoping people will gather ground to hear you. Make website that might magically get a million hits like you heard on CNN that moments after this person put it on line they got a million hits.

Well maybe many of you tried this. And all you are doing is growing old and spent lots of time faithfully doing your best. So I am asking any of you, all of you, to give your ideas on how to reach the lost for Christ.

John 4:35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? Behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest. (KJV)

Let me hear from you at the end you can click on the link below to comment.

Some of you have experience, money, talents, and other knowhow. Let’s get the harvest in! Some people have the message dying to preach it, but are flat out stupid as to how to get a crowd together, or how to substantially increase hits on their website. Or they can’t sing a note or make a tune. There are a ton of romantic match makers out there yet few ministry match makers. Some of you can join up a singer with a preacher, a meeting hall with a person with a message from God, techniquecal support for website. Ideas can give directions to the feet that carry the message.

Rom 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! (KJV)

Now give your ideas and or your actual talents for these ideas by supporting, directing, and making these ideas happen. I need your help and others need your help. We live in the times of the END and these calls for extra ordinary methods. Mainstream Christianity is not changing with the times and more often joining ranks with the enemies of Jesus. Pockets of new life in Jesus Christ is about to spring up help them by explaining things you know and read what others may say that can help you move into these new time in Christ Jesus.

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My high speed Internet connection expired so I am back on FREE 56k dial up connection. I would like to thank those that supported my last 1.5 years of high speed Internet.

I am asking for new donations to cover my high speed connection. My work online is greatly reduced at this time as high speed is essential for getting my TV programs online and keeping all my sites running smoothly and conducting my local and world online outreach.

Please make a commitment monthly for 6 months. It will help immensely. Depending on speed and type connection you are aware of the general price range. Usually around $39.99 or so.

Any love gift large or small would help at any time for any reason, but a monthly commitment of a one time gift to cover 6 month or 1 year would be appreciated now.

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Promises

What can be said about God's promises to us?

Jesus said: "I am that bread of life", John 6:48, "I am the light of the world", John 8:12, "I am the resurrection and the life." John 11:25

1. He has promised to supply every need we have. The Bible says: "But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus". That's Phillipians 4:19. Now notice, God has obligated Himself only to the extent of our needs. That would include food, clothing, shelter, companionship, love, and salvation thru Jesus Christ. It would not include the multiplicity of luxuries that we have come to think of as needs.
2. God has promised that His grace is sufficient for us. (II Corinthians 12:9). in fact, He has made provision for our salvation by His grace through faith. Read Ephesians 2:8. It is through an obedient faith that we have access into the grace of God according to Romans 5:2.
3. God has promised that His children will not be overtaken with temptation. Instead, He assures us that a way of escape will be provided. This promise is recorded in I Corinthians 10:13. Jude wrote: "Now unto Him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present your faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy" (Jude v 24). Darius, King of the Medes, said to Daniel, "Thy God whom thou servest continually, he will deliver thee" (Daniel 6:16). He did deliver Daniel from the den of lions.
4. God has promised us victory over death. He first resurrected Jesus by way of assuring our resurrection. Peter said: "This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we are all witnesses" (Acts 2:32). Paul wrote to the Corinthians: "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures" (I Corinthians 15:3,4). Later on he adds: "but thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ" (I Corinthians 15:57).
5. God has promised that all things work together for good to those who love and serve Him faithfully (Romans 8:28). It may be difficult for us to see and understand how this is accomplished at times, but God has promised it, and He will deliver.
6. God has promised that those who believe in Jesus and are baptized for the forgiveness of sins will be saved. (Read Mark 16:16 and Acts 2:38).
7. God has promised His people eternal life (John 10:27,28). In closing, let me appeal to you to live so that the promises of God will be yours.

John 14:2
2    In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. (KJV)

1 Cor 2:9
9    But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. (KJV)

John 14:16
16    And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; (KJV)

John 16:7
7    Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. (KJV)